Look I know it's hardly a subject but....

[Chihiro]

Yes I am. Can this forum fire up a bit!, too quiet! I've almost learnt all my notes.
How are people structuring their evaluation of future MDB strategies?
And also for human population what case studies are you learning? I'm doing Kenya, Italy and China (do I need to know a response at a local scale?) How are you structuring these?

What's everyone aiming for? 44+ personally.

[nickalaz]

i really have no idea what score im gunna get, aiming just to get above the state average. it will be a massive surprise for me on dec 15

for human population, im doing italy, china, and australia

feel free to post up any 'evaluate THIS' responses you've written, for MDB or population. id really like to see some from other people, theres very little to compare to.
I don't really think you need a local scale population.

if u want i can type up some of my population questions, but my MDB are fair bad.

[ben4386]

dont do china, people do it and they fail miserably look at the past assessment reports

china was in the past, even though the one child birth policy still exists it had its main effects 20-30 years ago.

Now china have a gender imbalance and an ageing population

so its kind of hard to talk about it being a mainly young country or an ageing country when so much shit is going on with its population.

Also make sure you know a response at a local scale, its examinable

[nickalaz]

how about on the 07 vcaa exam? it asks for 2 countries that have implemented policies to manage an aspect of their population.

china brought in the one child policy to manage an increasing population/overpopulated country

and when i evaluate it, i always mention their gender imbalance - its good to address short term effectiveness, and long term problems

if it asks for an ageing population, ill do italy/australia

except you need something on the other end of the scale to them, which is china ? ?

[Chihiro]

how about on the 07 vcaa exam? it asks for 2 countries that have implemented policies to manage an aspect of their population.

china brought in the one child policy to manage an increasing population/overpopulated country

and when i evaluate it, i always mention their gender imbalance - its good to address short term effectiveness, and long term problems

Exactly. That's what I've always done. Then again you did get 50 Ben so it's fair enough that you are a voice of authority.

[ben4386]

r u kidding?, China was in the past 30 years ago, there are plenty of examples of a young population

Kenya, Brazil, Pretty much any country in South America and Africa (that isn't overcome by aids) has a young population, do a bit of research.

[nickalaz]

but i wouldnt refer to china for a young population question - chinas perfect to write about a change in population characteristics - brought about by a government policy with both short and long term impacts

[ben4386]

both short and long term impacts

any country has long and short term impacts and they are easy to find and identify,

this is why i was put off china (from various assessment reports)


“Some poor choices included just Europe, which was not specific enough
and included countries that did not have a declining population, China, Australia and Japan”

Less successful students failed to accurately identify the ‘aspect of their population’ that the strategy was addressing or identified them incorrectly. For example, ‘China’s One Child Policy was designed to reduce China’s population’ – in fact it was designed to reduce China’s population growth. There is a great difference between ‘population’ and population growth’ and students need to appreciate that precise language is needed.

Although some students referred to appropriate strategies in China, such as pensions and aged care facilities, there were also many who wrote about China’s One Child Policy. Most students who referred to China discussed responses to the One Child Policy and did not discuss the ageing population, which is a by-product of the One Child Policy. The One Child Policy was not a response to an ageing population but an attempt to reduce the rate of China’s population growth. Many responses appeared to have been pre-prepared and were presented without students understanding what they were writing. In a significant number of cases, the responses on the ageing population in China were adequate, but also included a lot of irrelevant information about why the One Child Policy had been introduced. China could have been a very good example of a country with an ageing population, but students needed to say what was being done to manage it.


you gotta be careful what you say and how u say it, the examiners will get peed off if say something in the wrong way with china

[nickalaz]

hmm thats the thing with geog, you always seem to have to mention >9000 different factors and details, but you get a whopping 4 lines to do it in, and it's worth 2 marks.

"Most students who referred to China discussed responses to the One Child Policy and did not discuss the ageing population, which is a by-product of the One Child Policy."

whats wrong with saying
china introduced the one-child policy to manage a high rate of 'population growth'
mention more details about its aim to limit the popN to 1.2billion by the year 2000

then talk about how it was very effective in the short-term, as the fertility rate dropped to 1.7, which is below replacement levels
then about how in the long-term, due to societal wants of a male, the population is estimated to have the number of bachelors increase from 50million to 70million by 2025

why would we need to mention 'the ageing population, which is a by-product of the One Child Policy'

EDIT: btw, im not attempting to argue, i'm just trying to make sense of the info i DO know, and have been taught throughout the year by my teacher. would be a bit of a bitch to turn around and forget china after the work i've done on it, and everything ive been taught.

[Chihiro]

^^ Yeah I'm pretty much in the same boat.

And I can see what nicklaz is saying, as long as you specifically stipulated 'population growth' and built upon this through quantification, then I can't see how you could go very wrong.

Thanks for offering advice though Ben, it's really handy to have a 50 student amongst our midst!!

Editss: Ben, what are the parts of the course that you recommend learning exceptionally well?

[ben4386]

if you think you know it inside and out and you feel your 100% correct about every aspect of the policy and consequences of it then by all means go for it.

I was trying to show that its such a complicated scenario that if you are irrelevant in your response or use incorrect titles such as population instead of population growth they will mark you down for it. I chose when I did it to have a clear cut response, two for ageing (italy and australia) and one for a young population (kenya) cos really they are the only two kinds of population change you are going to be tested on.

Have a look at the assessment report, those responses to the population questions are what I wrote. I didn't use stuff that other people used, like few people knew that in Kenya the fertility rate increased in the 1990's which the book failed to mention. I just went a bit extra and researched it further and came up with my own stuff which was different an accurate. One thing assessors like is someone that is different and shows a solid understanding of what the question is asking. With china cos theres so much to know you might be inclined to go off topic or mention something irrelevant that draws away from your response.

[Chihiro]

Fair enough actually. Though I still think China is possible.

If they ask for a response on a local scale, is Australia okay or does it have to be more specific ie Shepparton?

[nickalaz]

BOX HILL!

[ben4386]

yeh you gotta say local like a city or municipality, the one in the book is shit about shepparton is shit

go to a local council website find a policy on retirement or ageing, or on the other side children and a young population, (i did the knox city council early years plan) and research it.

Did u want me to write up a post about stuff u need to know?

[nickalaz]

and also ben, im a tad confused about Australia's super-annuation strategy thingo
Is this an accurate statement?
"it allows working adults to make a pre-tax deposit from their salary into their super-fund... it is a financial incentive available to all and promotes economic self-reliancy among the ageing population. It reduces the economic burdon on the gov etc.."