Exam Thoughts [2007]

[igs07]

I'm worried because BM is just so godamn easy that everyone would have done well, minus those who don't give a damn.  No wonder it gets scaled down massively.  Hopefully a 36-37 scaled, but I can just picture getting the results and it being 33 or something lol

[Juztine]

I'm worried because BM is just so godamn easy that everyone would have done well, minus those who don't give a damn.  No wonder it gets scaled down massively.  Hopefully a 36-37 scaled, but I can just picture getting the results and it being 33 or something lol

hahah yeah...though I think the exam was relatively easy to the majority of us on here..simply cause we give a damn. My Bm class I am probably only 1 of 3 people out of a class of 30 that want to actually do well in the subject. Honestly the rest of my class get <50% everytime in the sacs and after the exam, they all came out asking me things like, "what the hell is a service firm" etc.

so yeah...let's hope the rest of the state is like that as well  :shock:

[Odette]

Yeah, most people in my class didnt even attempt the exam, and some left questions out...
After the exam i was asked (by someone who i was competing with all year in SACs) what operations management was, i was like you're kidding right, like seriously people who don't even do bus.man know what operations management is...

What is this world coming to lol!!

[igs07]

What is the world coming to?  Who cares! that makes me feel good.  I'm surprised  how many people doing their exams just don't give a damn, especially going to a private school, what have your parents been paying the money for? I guess thats what my motivation was, doing well for mum and dad, and myself of course

[Odette]

What is the world coming to?  Who cares! that makes me feel good.  I'm surprised  how many people doing their exams just don't give a damn, especially going to a private school, what have your parents been paying the money for? I guess thats what my motivation was, doing well for mum and dad, and myself of course

Yeah same here ... it's just sad to see people waste their potential like that

[Nick]

Recruitment IS part of selection lol. It's also one of the HR strategies (no 6: http://freestudynotes.com/VCEforum/viewtopic.php?t=272). I guess it only really depends on how you put it. Stop being a drama queen dude - a 42+ raw only needed an 80.8% score last year. You're fine![/url]

What do you mean to get 42 raw you only needed 80.8? How do you find that out?

[kingmar]

VCAA publish their grade distributions at

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2006/statssect3.html

This tells you what sort of scores you need for a certain grade.

It's not 42. It's "drop 11 marks in BM and get a ~40 raw".

This is very favourable. a 20% A+ range is MASSIVE when compared to other more competitive subjects.

Again, too many duds do BM, which is good for us generally (sorry to those that thought it was hard, don't be offended, I mean those that don't try at all).

I think the most easiest marks lie in the elements of an operations system. 4 marks for free! Inputs, Processes, Outputs. What's so hard?!

[Nick]

VCAA publish their grade distributions at

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/statistics/2006/statssect3.html

This tells you what sort of scores you need for a certain grade.

It's not 42. It's "drop 11 marks in BM and get a ~40 raw".

This is very favourable. a 20% A+ range is MASSIVE when compared to other more competitive subjects.

Again, too many duds do BM, which is good for us generally (sorry to those that thought it was hard, don't be offended, I mean those that don't try at all).

I think the most easiest marks lie in the elements of an operations system. 4 marks for free! Inputs, Processes, Outputs. What's so hard?!

95% of people doing bus man would be duds. That definately was 4 marks for free! Bus man is embarrassingly easy...

Yeah I know about the grade distributions, I'm just interested as to how you can work out "40 raw" derives from losing 11 marks? Sorry if this sounds dumb but I don't understand how you worked that out.

[Odette]

You're not the only one Nick, I don't know either :oops:

[kingmar]

You're not the only one Nick, I don't know either :oops:

This is like terribly nerdy... so here goes! (I'm turning into coblin)...

Odette, you do further. VCAA's Study Scores are normally distributed with a mean (average) of 30, and a standard deviation of 7.

If you use a calculator, the probability of getting above 40 is approximately 10%.

In most subjects, the chance of getting an A+ is also 10%.

So, we can similarly conclude that 10% of people get A+ and get 40.
Consequently, as the cut-off for a BM A+ is dropping 11 marks, hence dropping 11 marks almost assures you of a 40.

Unfortunately, VTAC rectifies that absurd situation though by immediately kicking you in the groin, saying "LOL!!!" a couple of times, kicking you in the groin again and then scaling you down three points for good measure.

This only affects about 51% of the BM population, however. The other 49% simply get scaled down three points.

[Odette]

Oh i get it lol... thanks mate

[igs07]

Unrelated, but still can't get over the fact that english drops a point if you get 35-37ish. WTF? what is the point?  and BM going down 3 even if you get 40-42.  VCAA is bullshit

[kingmar]

Unrelated, but still can't get over the fact that english drops a point if you get 35-37ish. WTF? what is the point?  and BM going down 3 even if you get 40-42.  VCAA is bullshit

You're not an attentive kid. I just said VTAC scale you down, not VCAA. There is no point in blaming VCAA, they simply correct your exams and provide a raw score, which VTAC then scale.

Sigh...

The point of scaling is to make everything equitable. Of course, English is compulsory so most do it. Essentially, at the lower study scores, there are duds that do English that scale the subject down. Say, they get 35 in English, but on average 33 raw in other subjects. English goes down two. This is simplified, but an example of the system.

BM is similar. Too many dud students do BM, get insane scores but in their other subjects screw up big time. BM scales down to reflect these duds. It's the way it is, so get a 50 to avoid scaling. Simple.

[AppleXY]

Man, I wish bus. man wasn't scaled so harshly. It means that I have to get 43 raw to get 40 scaled... urgh.

[Odette]

Aww curse you bus.man lol ... i think i've lost a few marks... so possibly 47 for me maybe lower :cry: