Chinese SL

[ninwa]

呵呵我上caulfield grammar, 学中文的大部分都是澳大利亚人. 没有多少中国人,但是有挺多的马来群岛人.

我和爸爸妈妈说中文,但是跟弟弟说英文.

哎, 我好嫉妒你呀! 但是我明年可能要回北京去看奥林匹克游戏!!

[lyn123]

yeah ! snow is great ! it was real snow ! lol i remember i went to this palace .. i forgot where .. and it had like a lake of ice yeah .. and this poor man .. he was like . poking his foot to see if he could step on it without the ice breaking . and he ended up falling in o.o ! my cousin had to quickly grab him back out ! poor man lost so much face .. didn't even talk for the rest of the tour ..

yeah my friend said it's impossible for the principal to write it cos apparantly the exam writer is not meant to be in contact with any students or anything to do with the candidates at all . or something ? maybe it was to do with the examiner marking the papers ? cos aren't schools marked in batches ?!

[ninwa]

about whether the principle wrote the exam, im not 100%sure cos i heard from other people, but if you look at the vce high scorer in the herald sun last year, 70-80% of people who achieved study score of 40+ are from mont albert cultures school.

and yeah i was in beijing this jan too, i love snow

maybe they're just good at chinese?

trinity grammar (I think) has the chief assessor for English ... I'll be interested to see how many of them get 40+ ... but I doubt there'll be much correlation between having an assessor and getting good marks. We have 2 or 3 teachers who are English assessors and you don't see our school getting a billion 50s in English

[lyn123]

呵呵我上caulfield grammar, 学中文的大部分都是澳大利亚人. 没有多少中国人,但是有挺多的马来群岛人.

我和爸爸妈妈说中文,但是跟弟弟说英文.

哎, 我好嫉妒你呀! 但是我明年可能要回北京去看奥林匹克游戏!!

oh 好像也有很多香港人考汉语

[joechan521]

呵呵我上caulfield grammar, 学中文的大部分都是澳大利亚人. 没有多少中国人,但是有挺多的马来群岛人.

我和爸爸妈妈说中文,但是跟弟弟说英文.

哎, 我好嫉妒你呀! 但是我明年可能要回北京去看奥林匹克游戏!!

哇我也想回去看奥运,特别特别想,但是现在还没有决定呢.
还有我看的出来,你的中文很formal的感觉,不是spoken的,呵呵.因为平常说话不太会说奥林匹克游戏,马来群岛这种的.呵呵^^

[lyn123]

yeah but accessors don't know what the exam topics are .. only the exam writer knows .. accessors only see after the exams are out don't they ? lol . and balwyn high .. i heard theres alot of mandarin speakers there .. my friend's boyfriend goes there .. but i think hes from nanjing . lol . anws i guess we can't really question the fairness about chinese -_- i know people that should be getting into chinese sla .. but .. they somehow end up in sl beginners so it's really quite unfair to the rest of us that are real second language beginners.

[joechan521]

about whether the principle wrote the exam, im not 100%sure cos i heard from other people, but if you look at the vce high scorer in the herald sun last year, 70-80% of people who achieved study score of 40+ are from mont albert cultures school.

and yeah i was in beijing this jan too, i love snow

maybe they're just good at chinese?

trinity grammar (I think) has the chief assessor for English ... I'll be interested to see how many of them get 40+ ... but I doubt there'll be much correlation between having an assessor and getting good marks. We have 2 or 3 teachers who are English assessors and you don't see our school getting a billion 50s in English

actually theres people who are really bad at chinese, even having trouble speaking getting very good marks, so i dont think they are just good at chinese, but anyway you guys still have to try your best for the exam

[joechan521]

yeah but accessors don't know what the exam topics are .. only the exam writer knows .. accessors only see after the exams are out don't they ? lol . and balwyn high .. i heard theres alot of mandarin speakers there .. my friend's boyfriend goes there .. but i think hes from nanjing . lol . anws i guess we can't really question the fairness about chinese -_- i know people that should be getting into chinese sla .. but .. they somehow end up in sl beginners so it's really quite unfair to the rest of us that are real second language beginners.

lol i know, vce system is pretty unfair, i know alot of people who are doing both chinese SLA, and ESL.
and some malaysian who are very good at english, still can do esl, as vcaa doesnt count malaysia as english speaking country, but they do speak good english

[lyn123]

yes i know some aussies that do alright ! my problem with the writing .. is that my teacher told me to cut all the fei hua . lol every essay i write, whether it be chinese or english .. has so much irrelevant crap .. like the grammar is beautiful .. but .. it has nothing to do with the topic . so just need to try my best and write straight to the point within the limit !

[lyn123]

yeah but accessors don't know what the exam topics are .. only the exam writer knows .. accessors only see after the exams are out don't they ? lol . and balwyn high .. i heard theres alot of mandarin speakers there .. my friend's boyfriend goes there .. but i think hes from nanjing . lol . anws i guess we can't really question the fairness about chinese -_- i know people that should be getting into chinese sla .. but .. they somehow end up in sl beginners so it's really quite unfair to the rest of us that are real second language beginners.

lol i know, vce system is pretty unfair, i know alot of people who are doing both chinese SLA, and ESL.
and some malaysian who are very good at english, still can do esl, as vcaa doesnt count malaysia as english speaking country, but they do speak good english

yehhh ..some singaporeans manage to get into chinese sl beginners .. even my friend . lol and her chinese is super good . umm . malaysians .. first language is bahasa malaysian .. second language is english . BUT most of the malaysians that come here .. are malaysian chinese . which means . that they are better at english than malay . which irks me also ! cos it's soooo unfair ! i know this girl . her english i would say is better than mine and her accent is soo aussie but she's doing esl because she came from malaysia 4 years ago ! like wth -______- and also i know people that are doing ESL and literature ! LIKEEE. how is it that they can own lit and still manage to be applicable for esl ? -_-

[cara.mel]

香港是什么国家？
我不懂了很多东西：(所以我很容易give up 看你们的posts 0=)

[ninwa]

哇我也想回去看奥运,特别特别想,但是现在还没有决定呢.
还有我看的出来,你的中文很formal的感觉,不是spoken的,呵呵.因为平常说话不太会说奥林匹克游戏,马来群岛这种的.呵呵^^

 :oops: 我都不知道这些说发,我要是在家里谈这个,我就说olympics 呵呵. 我总是加很多英文词,因为我知道的中文词不够 >_<

what are the requirements for getting into SLA as opposed to beginners? and what about chinese first language lol. I've seen some of those exams, they're not that hard ....

[lyn123]

香港 = Hong Kong

and don't give up ! you're chinese is pretty good ! keep trying !

[joechan521]

yes i know some aussies that do alright ! my problem with the writing .. is that my teacher told me to cut all the fei hua . lol every essay i write, whether it be chinese or english .. has so much irrelevant crap .. like the grammar is beautiful .. but .. it has nothing to do with the topic . so just need to try my best and write straight to the point within the limit !

unlike english, in chinese exam only have a very small part on essay writing, so don't have to worry too much, i found the listening section quite challenging, they spoke quite fast and wasn't enough time.

and i heard from my friend who did chinese first language, the listening was very unfair cos the person spoke very fast and used very very strong beijing accent, and used slang terms such as 皇城根, people not from beijing couldn't even understand it.

[cara.mel]

A lot of the time I recognise most of the characters you guys are saying, but they are in an order I have never seen before. So it's like, I can read it but it is making absolutely no sense.

Oh and I learnt olymics as what nina said but with 'yun dong hui' at the end. =)