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How much do SACs REALLY count for?
« on: November 17, 2007, 01:35:59 pm »
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Sorry if there's already a thread on this: I couldn't find one :)

So how much do our SAC marks really affect our study score? For eg I've had straight A+ in literature all year but I don't think my exam was at that level...does a high SAC average count for anything in practice?

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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2007, 01:51:04 pm »
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Quote from: "Charmer"
Sorry if there's already a thread on this: I couldn't find one :)

So how much do our SAC marks really affect our study score? For eg I've had straight A+ in literature all year but I don't think my exam was at that level...does a high SAC average count for anything in practice?

Thanks  :D


I think it would depend on how much the sacs are worth, as well as your ranking and exam performance... :)

Sorry i couldnt help you out much :(
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2007, 01:59:18 pm »
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That's ok! I always hear conflicting opinions. Some say they're really important, others think they don't count for much at all. Ranking sounds about right though :)
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2007, 02:22:12 pm »
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Unless ur aiming for mid to high 40s then i dont think they should worry you too much. I would still try my best in them though, thats for sure.
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2007, 08:34:41 am »
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SACs are more for your ranking than anything else. IMO, they really matter in that respect. As all schools have different levels of difficulty in SACs, their results are more or less moderated in the attempt to make things fairer across the board. This process involves looking at the rankings of those within the school and how these reflect the exam scores achieved by the same group. In the majority of subjects which have a 50 SAC : 50 exam kind of weighting at least, it works something like this:

School A:
Tom gets 83% in his SACs (across the year), and is ranked #1 in his class. Scores 100% on the exam. VCAA sees that Tom's school was marked hard against VCAA's exam standard and scales his SAC results somewhere closer to 100%.

School B:
Ben gets 92% on SACs, ranked numero uno. Flunks the exam though, 84%, which happens to be ranked #3 exam result at the school.
Loz gets SACs: ranked #2 at 87%. Exam: 91% (#2)
Jane gets 65% on SACs, ranked #3. Really picks up before the exam and manages to pull a 95% on it (#1).

When results come out, all of them are awarded their result for their exam, however their SAC results are 'scaled' accordingly.
Ben: Exam - 84%. However, as he was top ranked in SACs, his SAC results are moderated according to the top EXAM result, regardless of the fact that he didn't actually achieve it. So his SACs go from 92% to ~95%.
Loz: Exam - 91%, SACs ~91%
Jane: Exam - 95%, SACs ~84%
If you wanna be schneaky, if you're ranked #1 at the end of the year, then you can help everyone else do as well as possible on the exam ;). Not sure how effective that is in practice haha.

Anyway as a rule of thumb, it's more or less #1 SAC scaled by #1 exam result (regardless of who scored it), #2 by #2, etc. etc. So maintaining a high ranking throughout the year can act as a type of insurance policy. Make sense? It's all detailed somewhere deep in the VCAA site if you can be bothered trying to find it :).
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2007, 09:02:16 am »
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I agree with everything trigger said above.

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If you wanna be schneaky, if you're ranked #1 at the end of the year, then you can help everyone else do as well as possible on the exam ;). Not sure how effective that is in practice haha.



I did this for english, my mate gunned the exam but he's ranked 2nd to me.  8)
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2007, 11:05:20 am »
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wooohooo my teacher said i have a very very good ranking for english sacs!!
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2007, 09:26:08 pm »
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I would still try my best in them though, thats for sure.

+1 def.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2007, 12:54:20 pm »
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Hey..

Say there are like 5 Year 12 separate English classes in one school...

Is the ranking for just one class or do they combine all the people who do that study in that school into one big list??
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2007, 02:00:00 pm »
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Hey..

Say there are like 5 Year 12 separate English classes in one school...

Is the ranking for just one class or do they combine all the people who do that study in that school into one big list??


They combine all the classes to form one unified ranking.  :wink:
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2007, 05:52:10 pm »
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Yeah.
You'll find that the English teachers tend to cross-mark across the year level or at least try to establish a standard criteria to mark to, so I guess the mentality is that it reduces the amount of variation you could have from one teacher to another within the one school.
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2007, 11:43:12 am »
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HMm,

I'm curious:

If I gun the English exam(which I'm sure I did) and beat all the number one rank students in my school(as I did with the trial exams), with the rank 1 student having 95/100 for unit 3 & 93/100 for unit 4
 
but I have low "High" scores(86/100 unit 3, 86/100 unit 4)

then would I "steal" the number 1 student's SAC scores? Or would my SAC marks get moderated up, if so by how much approximately?

confusing :S
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2007, 12:53:51 pm »
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HMm,

I'm curious:

If I gun the English exam(which I'm sure I did) and beat all the number one rank students in my school(as I did with the trial exams), with the rank 1 student having 95/100 for unit 3 & 93/100 for unit 4
 
but I have low "High" scores(86/100 unit 3, 86/100 unit 4)

then would I "steal" the number 1 student's SAC scores? Or would my SAC marks get moderated up, if so by how much approximately?

confusing :S


i think you do get the #1 sac score...thats what ahmad was going on about
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2007, 01:18:29 pm »
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Nah, if you're ranked n-th you get roughly the n-th exam mark as your moderated SAC mark. Remember: SAC ranking never changes, regardless of performance in exam. If someone is ranked higher, they will always receive a higher moderated SAC mark than you.
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2007, 11:45:34 pm »
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Does anyone know if the exam affects SAT marks, like folio marks for Media, for example.
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