Which subjects should you do to get an "easy" 50?

[naved_s9994]

Bottom line is, getting a 50 is not easy in ANY subject in VCE.

That is not entirely true. There are a few exceptions. These include Japanese, Chinese and basically all other languages offered for VCE. This is why international students come to Victoria, to take advantage of this.

Hmmm... PE seems pretty easy too. And I'm not sure, but wouldn't ESL be easy too for VCE? I used to be in ESL, but got promoted to English (no doubt because of my extreme ability in speaking English). Though if I stayed in ESL, I would have easily got the highest SAC mark and possibly the highest exam mark also for Victoria.

Yes, international students come to Australia to exploit the VCE language system. Not, perhaps, because Australia has one of the best education systems in the world for its price tag, and, not to mention the generally high quality of life offered in Victoria (and, indeed, the rest of Australia).

Furthermore, VOLTMAN, your arrogance is quite unfounded and your proclaimed "success" in English and ESL is difficult to believe considering some of the less than intelligent things you have posted on this forum.

Actually, in countries like India and China, courses such as Specialist Maths, would be something a
student there would do when they are in Yr 10 or (14 Years of age)... But yes, I do agree
on the language aspects!

[EvangelionZeta]

^^Actually, I think even Methods is considered Uni level in China.  We cover more "breadth" than they do - it's just that the Chinese maths courses go a lot deeper into their topics.

[kyzoo]

A 50 really depends largely on luck - what stupid mistakes you make on the day. Personally, I don't think that someone who scored 46 is inherently worse at a subject than a 50 scorer - perhaps if it'd been a slightly different paper or another essay question, the scores would be reversed.

That probably depends on how many people do the subject. For English 46 is a bit far, maybe 48? But for something like Classics or Latin, that's probably right.

[m@tty]

A 50 really depends largely on luck - what stupid mistakes you make on the day. Personally, I don't think that someone who scored 46 is inherently worse at a subject than a 50 scorer - perhaps if it'd been a slightly different paper or another essay question, the scores would be reversed.

That probably depends on how many people do the subject. For English 46 is a bit far, maybe 48? But for something like Classics or Latin, that's probably right.

I think 46 translates to ~9,9,9.5 [27.5/30 am I right??] on the exam. Someone who can write 3 near perfect essays could probably on a good day have written perfect essays.  This would apply even more so to a 48 [roughly 9.5,9.5,9.5 28.5/30 ?? is this correct I am guessing] As three examiners thought he had written a perfect essay.

[EvangelionZeta]

I think 9, 9, 9 is actually closer to 48.  29/30 is generally 49 or 50.

[m@tty]

I think 9, 9, 9 is actually closer to 48.  29/30 is generally 49 or 50.

really?? I thought that was 45

[EvangelionZeta]

Maybe 9, 9, 10 is 48 then.  Still, from experience the difference between people most who get 46 and people who get 50 in English IS often relatively hefty.  Of course, there are potential 50-students who get 45 or whatever, but from what I've heard they're the minority.

[Ilovemathsmeth]

Okay, panic attack.

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Need 9, 9, 9 to get 45???

Goodbye, 45.

[m@tty]

I wasn't sure, I was just guessing. I have no evidence at all.
EZ what do you think constitutes a 45?

EDIT: My only knowledge of 45 in English is a guy who got stuffed up by SAC's but got 28.5/30 for the exam.

[EvangelionZeta]

I guess it depends on the cohort.  I was under the impression that 26/30ish was enough to get 45 though.  I'm sort of guessing too, just that my head of English said people in the past have gotten 50s with 29/30, and even 28/30.

[m@tty]

Highest English score at my school was ~35 xD So I have no anecdotal evidence.

[minilunchbox]

Highest English score at my school was ~35 xD So I have no anecdotal evidence.

Someone asked our english teacher around how many people would get 40+ for english every year at our school and he just laughed.

[m@tty]

That would suck!

[mba]

Three 9s for English would be more like a 48 I would think, definitely not 45. As long as your SAC marks for strong too.

[humph]

I guess it depends on the cohort.  I was under the impression that 26/30ish was enough to get 45 though.  I'm sort of guessing too, just that my head of English said people in the past have gotten 50s with 29/30, and even 28/30.

The way we used to think of it was that 58/60 would get you 50, then every mark you drop from that is down one in your study score, so that 53/60 is a 45, 48/60 is a 40. And in my experience, there's very little to distinguish between someone who gets 46 and someone who gets 50 - it just depends on how you did on the day. When I came out of my english exam, I had no idea what I'd got, and figured it could be anything from 43 to 50 (thankfully it was the latter ).