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enwiabe

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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2007, 09:31:13 pm »
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Personally? I love to mass debate.

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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2007, 09:37:23 pm »
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Quote from: "enwiabe"
Personally? I love to mass debate.


oooooooooooold joke... :lol:
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2007, 09:42:19 pm »
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i debated this year

in the geelong region

I'm a third speaker normally

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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2007, 09:57:18 pm »
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Quote from: "BA22"
i debated this year

in the geelong region

I'm a third speaker normally
ey BA22, what school do you go to in geelong?
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2007, 07:07:44 am »
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Quote from: "enwiabe"
Personally? I love to mass debate.


LOL, that sounds better - the joke in our region is 'maths debate'.

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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2007, 08:10:47 am »
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Quote from: "asa.hoshi"
Quote from: "BA22"
i debated this year

in the geelong region

I'm a third speaker normally
ey BA22, what school do you go to in geelong?


Trinity from colac

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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2007, 08:16:16 am »
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Quote from: "joshuamorgan"
Quote from: "enwiabe"
Personally? I love to mass debate.


LOL, that sounds better - the joke in our region is 'maths debate'.


They must have lisps there. Has anyone noticed that it's incredibly mean to have an "s" sound in lisp?

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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2007, 08:20:17 am »
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Yeh, mass debate sounds much better. Yes, it's discrimination :P

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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2007, 11:50:44 am »
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What is a master debater?

I usually am third speaker/writer.
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2007, 12:00:30 pm »
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Quote from: "kido_1"
What is a master debater?

I usually am third speaker/writer.


It's supposed to sound like 'masturbator'.

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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2007, 12:08:01 pm »
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Quote from: "joshuamorgan"
Quote from: "kido_1"
What is a master debater?

I usually am third speaker/writer.


It's supposed to sound like 'masturbator'.


lol

I get it now. I have heard of maths-debater though. Maths debaters, what nerds they are?
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2007, 06:45:58 pm »
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2nd speaker. I hate adjudicators that obviously don't want to be there. We had one adjudicator that literally turned around and was lookin @ the wall at the back of the room while one of our speakers was speaking. I think someone made a complaint.
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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2008, 07:29:07 pm »
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Chester Porter QC, "The gentle art of persuasion" (2005):

"At school I was quite a good debater and captained my school’s debating team against the teams of other schools. Team debating teaches valuable lessons in performing tasks and keeping to the point, and I acquired a good deal of experience in these.
Unfortunately, school team debating introduces people to advocacy too early. In advocacy, you put forward arguments in support of a proposition, regardless of whether you believe in it yourself. Team debating teaches you to do just that.
Although I gained a great deal of experience in debating at school and later at university, I soon learn that there were too many negatives in team debating. Emotion tended to be fienged rather than real, and arguments were made in order to win debating points from adjudicators, rather than to convince the audience. Young speakers and older ones too, tended to be smart show-offs and at times the distinction between wit and lack of manners became blurred.
I was a university adjudicator and saw and heard many debaters some of whom later became barristers. Team debating no doubt taught fluency, verbal skills and slick argument. But I think the real ability to persuade is a different skill altogether.
At university, I far preferred the parliamentary debates, the weekly Union Nights modeled on the Oxford Union where causes were debated by those who believed in them. My experience began there as a seventeen-year-old student among much better debaters.
When one has been a schoolboy captain of debating, there is a tendency to lose modesty as one is cheered by sympathetic audiences. My initial lack of success at Sydney University soon revived much of the modesty I had lost at school.”

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Re: school debating
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2008, 08:13:09 pm »
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yes i'm a debater.. anyone adjudicating next year?
Yep. Although being in Canberra, I don't know how many dabates I'll actually be able to adjudicate. I asked them, and they said that's fine and also actually gave me the email of the Canberra debating organisation.

I debated in year 7, 8, 9 and 12 and was always first speaker until in my second debate in year 12, someone decided that they'd had enough of being 3rd speaker. I actually prefer third. If you do what they call 'thematic rebuttal' then the adjudicators love it. Basically, rather than bringing up every single point the other team made in the whole debate and saying why each point is bad, you just figure out the main strands of their argument (usually there's only one or two) and say why they're bad. Thirds get it easier than I thought!

I wasn't much good at secret topics though unless I wrote out my entire speech in that hour including rebuttal (which is eventually what I did). I seem to fall apart if I don't have preparation.

I don't know why I did it because beforehand I was always terribly nervous, but I don't know, I guess there was a geeky adrenaline buzz. And I got best speaker in all of my debates last year apart from one. It is essentially lying though, I couldn't count how many times I've argued for something I don't agree with, but the issues are hardly ever contentious, so most of them I didn't really care about either way. I'd like to say that it helped build my confidence and ability as a public speaker, but I don't know if it has. It has made me think about structure a lot more though and I'm sure it's intellectual stimulation. And it's something to put on my CV too.

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Re: school debating
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2008, 11:22:08 pm »
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is anyone a master-debater?

Fail :P.

mass-debating ftw
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<chath> ill say " i wont let you go until u kiss me bitch"

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<@enwiabe> i have the BEST orgasms when i'm working through a math problem


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<@mark_alec> my bikini line however, is most important

Are you scared yet?