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Re: Context - Ummmmmm......
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2008, 04:53:39 pm »
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Wasn't writing for the intended audience one of the marking criteria? Because if it was you definitely would have lost more than 1/2 marks...
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2008, 05:50:46 pm »
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i think its just so unfair for all those people who are better at imaginative. im a persuasive person so i was ok, but it was shit considering we have been told all year we could do anything we like and then to be so limited in the exam..and i hated that it said we were on work experience because i always take on the persona of catherine deveny, but i just said i was on work experience with her so i hope they pick up my style!
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Re: Context - Ummmmmm......
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2008, 05:45:46 pm »
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Uh hate to break it to you all.

But form and audience is really important.

They even semi specified what sort of persona they wanted - work experience student aka someone our age.

If you don't even ATTEMPT to try to make it fit the form/audience/persona, you'll get a 5 max if you are lucky.

And re: textual references - in general an essay should only consist of 10% quotes... and that's for close readings/text responses. So 30-40, or even 50%? Way too extreme.

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Re: Context - Ummmmmm......
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2008, 06:38:55 pm »
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Uh hate to break it to you all.

But form and audience is really important.

Evidence? Don't go around making everyone feel like shit if you can't back this claim up. From what I know, no one really knows how VCAA's going to handle this and they haven't really said anything about it. My assumption is that VCAA will be quite lenient this year given it's the first, but who knows. Only one of the major criteria out of four is related to form (even then, it shares it with other things like structure and such), so I don't think a well written piece with good ideas is going to get a 5. If you're going to say something, back it up with evidence - you said you should have 10% of quotes, well you've had 0 here. Move along people and don't freak out.
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Re: Context - Ummmmmm......
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2008, 06:47:10 pm »
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Uh hate to break it to you all.

But form and audience is really important.

Evidence? Don't go around making everyone feel like shit if you can't back this claim up. From what I know, no one really knows how VCAA's going to handle this and they haven't really said anything about it. My assumption is that VCAA will be quite lenient this year given it's the first, but who knows. Only one of the major criteria out of four is related to form (even then, it shares it with other things like structure and such), so I don't think a well written piece with good ideas is going to get a 5. If you're going to say something, back it up with evidence - you said you should have 10% of quotes, well you've had 0 here. Move along people and don't freak out.

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Re: Context - Ummmmmm......
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2008, 06:49:51 pm »
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Uh hate to break it to you all.

But form and audience is really important.

Evidence? Don't go around making everyone feel like shit if you can't back this claim up. From what I know, no one really knows how VCAA's going to handle this and they haven't really said anything about it. My assumption is that VCAA will be quite lenient this year given it's the first, but who knows. Only one of the major criteria out of four is related to form (even then, it shares it with other things like structure and such), so I don't think a well written piece with good ideas is going to get a 5. If you're going to say something, back it up with evidence - you said you should have 10% of quotes, well you've had 0 here. Move along people and don't freak out.
Agreed. Also, they want it to be as flexible as possible. They don't purposely restrict the context so that certain forms are disadvantaged. A newspaper article could be anything, it could be part of a VCE lift-out or something of the sort. Also, whilst 10% may be quotes, there is also explaining of the context in which the actual quotes happen. 'Evidence' is not simply quotes.

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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2008, 07:19:20 pm »
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And re: textual references - in general an essay should only consist of 10% quotes... and that's for close readings/text responses. So 30-40, or even 50%? Way too extreme.
There is no rule regarding amount of quotes. For one of my essays last year I had NO quotes because I couldn't remember any well enough to risk it. And I still got 45+ for English.

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Re: Context - Ummmmmm......
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2008, 09:43:37 pm »
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I know one of the chief assessors this year. But that's fine. Disregard what I said :)

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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2008, 09:45:51 pm »
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Exactly.

Its the first year, and yes the form thing was a bit harsh. I don't know how the imaginative people will fit in their. But then again, sometimes you find stories and stuff in a newspaper..... maybe!

Its the first year of context, the focus is on good writing. If you derserve a 10, I think you'll get one regardless.

Who else did Imaginative Landscape? I did. What did you write about. I did expository and explored how physical experiences in the landscape shape us and how cultural experiences influence our connections, then a short personal reflection on how my experiences in the landscape have influenced the way I connect. I only did a paragraph with both texts in one. Id be looking at 80% big ideas and 20% text related examples.

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Re: Context - Ummmmmm......
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2008, 09:55:36 pm »
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tbh people should've considered the form they were supposed to write in. i was planning on doing a transcript but had to completely scrap that idea, change it and write something i hadnt practised for, for the purposes of the format. IMO you could've still done any of expository/persuasive/imaginary, because next to anything can be published as a newspaper article but you should've made an effort to link it somehow. eg: in the education section you are providing a sample response for a particular context prompt for the benefit of the vce community. and then just write whatever you want.

then again, it is the first year for the section. the examiners will most likely, as people have said, be lenient.
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Re: Context - Ummmmmm......
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2008, 09:58:00 pm »
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Exactly.

Its the first year, and yes the form thing was a bit harsh. I don't know how the imaginative people will fit in their. But then again, sometimes you find stories and stuff in a newspaper..... maybe!

Its the first year of context, the focus is on good writing. If you derserve a 10, I think you'll get one regardless.

Who else did Imaginative Landscape? I did. What did you write about. I did expository and explored how physical experiences in the landscape shape us and how cultural experiences influence our connections, then a short personal reflection on how my experiences in the landscape have influenced the way I connect. I only did a paragraph with both texts in one. Id be looking at 80% big ideas and 20% text related examples.

What about you?

Yeah I did imaginative landscape and did a persuasive essay. I did 3 paragraphs, one on how memories of 'good times' in landscapes can assist our connection (The Road to Rankin's Point, and another story...cannot remember), one on how negative experiences with landscapes can hinder our connection (the vastness of the dark, fly away peter) and finally one on how our mental landscape ultimately can deny us a connection to a landscape if it acknowledges other priorities (the poetry of robert frost - Stopping by woods on a snowy evening).

I was about 40%/60% text examples/big ideas. To accommodate the newspaper purpose, I did a bit more explanation on some of the stories than normal to accommodate readers who obviously would not have read the texts, rather than jump straight into the examples like I did for other prompts which identified the audience as 'fellow VCE students'.

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Re: Context - Ummmmmm......
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2008, 10:05:15 pm »
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My thing lacked textual evidence I feel. I saw the newspaper thing and thought maybe I need to discuss the prompt  with a feel things from the text but I sucked and so worried now.

Suicide rope anyone XD.

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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2008, 10:07:47 pm »
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Lol, I wish I had never written a speech... This is when an imaginative writer succumbs to demands of a specific task. :(

My thing lacked textual evidence I feel. I saw the newspaper thing and thought maybe I need to discuss the prompt  with a feel things from the text but I sucked and so worried now.

Suicide rope anyone XD.

I'm going to buy one for myself, do you want one as well? :P

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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2008, 10:12:35 pm »
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But two thanks.

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Re: Context - Ummmmmm......
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2008, 10:13:08 pm »
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Haha, stop worrying people. Put it behind you, move on and destroy your remaining exams :D