2008 Psychology Exam 2

[nickalaz]

for multi's i got 31 as B - the scones are the unconditioned stimulus, the happiness felt from baking the scones would therefore be the unconditioned response...
and for 32 i got A - d is incorrect because it's talking about a pairing between ucs and ucr timewise, as opposed to the ucs and the cs/ns. therefore it must be A because taste aversion is adaptive (As shown by Garcia etc.)

Q31 is definately B
Q32, it says "the time lapse between the UCS and UCR"
it isn't talking about the pairing.

[sitzamurz]

In reply to Eliseblack's comment isn't the the smell of scones the CS and previously the NS and the baking with grandma the UCS, the UCR was happiness...

So wouldn't happiness be the CR

[Lulu]

In reply to Eliseblack's comment isn't the the smell of scones the CS and previously the NS and the baking with grandma the UCS, the UCR was happiness...

So wouldn't happiness be the CR

Happiness is both the UCR and CR.

It's just that they are in response to different stimuli (i.e. one being in response to having fun with grandma and the other to the smell)

So I'm pretty sure 31. is A

[sisqo1111]

agreed about 31

[nickalaz]

"having fun"... FUN = the feeling that you get from 'baking cookies' (the UCS) isn't it??

[Eliseblack]

for multi's i got 31 as B - the scones are the unconditioned stimulus, the happiness felt from baking the scones would therefore be the unconditioned response...
and for 32 i got A - d is incorrect because it's talking about a pairing between ucs and ucr timewise, as opposed to the ucs and the cs/ns. therefore it must be A because taste aversion is adaptive (As shown by Garcia etc.)

Q31 is definately B
Q32, it says "the time lapse between the UCS and UCR"
it isn't talking about the pairing.

the time lapse between ucs and ucr doesn't matter though - either way the ucs provokes the ucr, it's the pairing of the cs with the ucs that timing is relevant for.. am i just getting myself muddled up now?

[nickalaz]

hmm im thinking you're right about the happy/fun questions. god thats SO trivial

with taste aversion, they always talk about how the UCR can come a few days later (ie from eating bad food)
but with CC, they say that there can't be a huge delay, otherwise they aren't associated with each other

wait.. i give up, im confused too now

[Eliseblack]

hmm im thinking you're right about the happy/fun questions. god thats SO trivial

with taste aversion, they always talk about how the UCR can come a few days later (ie from eating bad food)
but with CC, they say that there can't be a huge delay, otherwise they aren't associated with each other

wait.. i give up, im confused too now

hmm, it gets weirder the more you think about it..
taste aversion - time can be ages between pairing of ucs and cs for there to still be an association formed.. but i didn't think it was really important between the ucs and the ucr.. they're paired already.. argh, weird weird. does this discount A though?
taste aversion is usually adaptive..

[rh]

i knew the multiple choice was too good to be true.

99% sure i got q's 29-32 wrong. lol. :<

[Nick]

Hey Guys!


Just to clarify with question 9- I think it's perfectly acceptable to have suggested classical for part A of the question and operant for part B. In part A, to me it seems as though they are directly referring to classical conditioning without a doubt. The examiners are simply trying to trick you- and at the same time, cover all bases by testing both types of conditioning in the one question.

[mskwmskw]

would it also be perfectly acceptable to have suggested operant conditioning for question 9 part A or just classical?

[Nick]

I'd be inclined to go with classical only. Anything is possible though. It's very tricky and designed to catch you out unfortunately.

[sisqo1111]

a psych teacher at my school said def not classical though! he said it had to be operant. he has been teaching it for over 30 years, so ill assume he must be correct?

[Eliseblack]

a psych teacher at my school said def not classical though! he said it had to be operant. he has been teaching it for over 30 years, so ill assume he must be correct?

it fits too well with cc, your teacher's gotta be mistaken..

[Nick]

Nah it's CC. He's stuffed it up.