The earnings of Arts graduates

[Collin Li]

(Monash students check out a toilet wall scrawl in the Rotunda building. I thnk most people posting here have a problem with brendan, and not so much with what he's actually saying

I can also get my arts degrees from the toilet rolls at the University of Melbourne, according to what's said in liquid paper.

[brendan]

lol this argument is hilarious brendan+coblin vs nick+jcc.... but i agree with the above (not anymore) lolz he doesnt have to state it to imply it and if he wasnt implying it then hes done a bad job constructing his post


ahh flooding of replies! lol

ouu so many ppl looking at this thread ... has this been the most argued thread? lol

Nah, check out the epic God debate thread, went on for ages, over 400 replies

It still retains the title of the longest thread here

[excal]

"I'm just the messenger"

Actually i am just that when it came to the statistics.
People can see for themselves here:
http://www.graduatecareers.com.au/content/download/3465/14505/file/Grad%20Files%202007.pdf

This report kind annoyed on a personal level as they have 'divided' the technical areas of IT (Comp Sci / Soft Eng) but haven't really specified Information Systems, which has far better graduate opportunities than the former (this is due to the offshoring of the more technical jobs).

lol this argument is funny... brendan vs the rest... lol but  yeah he does cite alot of links nearly all the time... which is like pointless most of the time... lolz

although i did like the 'letter to the young procrastinator'

His posts become a huge wall of text / tl;dr as a result

I like where this thread is going >:3

[TrueLight]

well... he could just summarise his main thoughts about it in a small wall of text

[Eriny]

I think some people get confused about arts careers because there is no one main pathway as there is with almost every other degree (except maybe science). There are many varied things one can do with an arts degree. Further, arts is the course "to do if you don't know what course to do", and thus, many graduates may not be as highly motivated as graduates from courses which involve more certainty. If you use your arts degree properly (as many students are less inclined to do), then you should not have a deficit in employability.

[bec]

I think some people get confused about arts careers because there is no one main pathway as there is with almost every other degree (except maybe science). There are many varied things one can do with an arts degree. Further, arts is the course "to do if you don't know what course to do", and thus, many graduates may not be as highly motivated as graduates from courses which involve more certainty. If you use your arts degree properly (as many students are less inclined to do), then you should not have a deficit in employability.

you sound like you're quoting me in the argument that i had with my mum five minutes ago!

[brendan]

Median starting salaries for bachelor degree graduates aged less than 25 and in first full-time employment, by fields of education 2007. Source: http://www.graduatecareers.com.au/content/view/full/24

$68,000      Dentistry
$56,500      Optometry
$51,000      Medicine
$50,000      Earth Sciences
$50,000      Engineering
$46,000      Education
$46,000      Mathematics
$45,000      Law
$44,000      Social Work
$43,200      Computer Science
$43,000      Paramedical Studies
$42,900      Physical Sciences
$42,000      Psychology
$41,000      Biological Sciences
$40,000      Accounting
$40,000      Agricultural Science
$40,000      Architecture & Building
$40,000      Economics, Business
$40,000      Veterinary Science
$39,400      Social Sciences
$38,000      Humanities
$35,000      Art & Design
$34,000      Pharmacy (pre-reg)

[AppleThief]

Median starting salaries for bachelor degree graduates aged less than 25 and in first full-time employment, 2007. Source: http://www.graduatecareers.com.au/content/view/full/24

$68,000      Dentistry
$56,500      Optometry
$51,000      Medicine
$50,000      Earth Sciences
$50,000      Engineering
$46,000      Education
$46,000      Mathematics
$45,000      Law
$44,000      Social Work
$43,200      Computer Science
$43,000      Paramedical Studies
$42,900      Physical Sciences
$42,000      Psychology
$41,000      Biological Sciences
$40,000      Accounting
$40,000      Agricultural Science
$40,000      Architecture & Building
$40,000      Economics, Business
$40,000      Veterinary Science
$39,400      Social Sciences
$38,000      Humanities
$35,000      Art & Design
$34,000      Pharmacy (pre-reg)

Why not bold Education and Psychology? And since when do you do a BA for Art & Design?

Now you're just trying to be misleading.

[brendan]

Why not bold Education and Psychology?

Primary and secondary education typically requires:
1) an undergraduate degree + a Diploma of Education; or
2) a Bachelor of Education,

Psychology can often come under the Science Faculty for many universities.

[AppleThief]

Why not bold Education and Psychology?

Primary and secondary education typically requires:
1) an undergraduate degree + a Diploma of Education; or
2) a Bachelor of Education,

Psychology can often come under the Science Faculty for many universities.

1) Often ARTS + DipEd
2) And also comes under ARTS.

[ninwa]

You can become a psychologist by doing an arts degree, I have 2 friends doing that + I believe Nick is as well. Never heard of anyone doing Science to become a psychologist.

[brendan]

Why not bold Education and Psychology?

Primary and secondary education typically requires:
1) an undergraduate degree + a Diploma of Education; or
2) a Bachelor of Education,

Psychology can often come under the Science Faculty for many universities.

1) Often ARTS + DipEd
2) And also comes under ARTS.

Like I said, primary and secondary education typically requires:
1) an undergraduate degree (doesn't need to be a BA) + a Diploma of Education; or
2) a Bachelor of Education, 

[AppleThief]

Why not bold Education and Psychology?

Primary and secondary education typically requires:
1) an undergraduate degree + a Diploma of Education; or
2) a Bachelor of Education,

Psychology can often come under the Science Faculty for many universities.

1) Often ARTS + DipEd
2) And also comes under ARTS.

Like I said, primary and secondary education typically requires:
1) an undergraduate degree (doesn't need to be a BA) + a Diploma of Education; or
2) a Bachelor of Education, 

Exactly? It doesn't have to be a BA, but (very) often is.

The only reason you omitted Education was because it doesn't support your "argument"

[brendan]

Why not bold Education and Psychology?

Primary and secondary education typically requires:
1) an undergraduate degree + a Diploma of Education; or
2) a Bachelor of Education,

Psychology can often come under the Science Faculty for many universities.

1) Often ARTS + DipEd
2) And also comes under ARTS.

Like I said, primary and secondary education typically requires:
1) an undergraduate degree (doesn't need to be a BA) + a Diploma of Education; or
2) a Bachelor of Education, 

Exactly? It doesn't have to be a BA, but (very) often is.

The only reason you omitted Education was because it doesn't support your "argument"

What are you talking about, the list above refers to fields of study.
So, education means students studying childhood, primary and secondary education.

[ninwa]

you forgot to bold psychology still