My predicament

[tharri08]

im in a similar situation to costa but at a lower level. i got 88.75 ENTER and got 23 in methods. i want to do accounting/ banking finance that needs 25 in any maths and a score of 87.2. to me what doesnt seem right is that kids getting 87 and 25 in further will be getting in and i could have easily got 25 in further. i feel for you costa man, GOOD LUCK.

[ReVeL]

im in a similar situation to costa but at a lower level. i got 88.75 ENTER and got 23 in methods. i want to do accounting/ banking finance that needs 25 in any maths and a score of 87.2. to me what doesnt seem right is that kids getting 87 and 25 in further will be getting in and i could have easily got 25 in further. i feel for you costa man, GOOD LUCK.

I feel for you man, it's very unfortunate and good luck with getting in!

However... I somewhat think you should have seen this situation coming. If you know you're not the best at maths, and that you need 25 in ANY maths, then why pick methods over further?? Surely you would have stood a better chance at getting 25 in further than methods, which is significantly harder.

Theres probably other factors as to why you didn't do this, but it seems a misguided decision to pick methods over further when you only need 25 raw. Anyways, good luck in getting in man.

[costargh]

We can't always anticipate what is going to happen.

I had the chance to do Methods again and I chose not to.

What tharri08 says is right though.

Why ISNT the scaled score the important factor in this situation?

Why does someone who got 25 in further get priority over someone who got 23 in methods (which is much harder). Flawed VTAC system.

Bad luck man. I hope you get in. Yet another victim of a flawed policy. There are other members on here who have missed the pre-reqs by 1 mark too who have PM'ed me so there are quite a few of us.

[cara.mel]

I agree with ReVeL (unless you were completely unsure as to what courses you wanted and didn't know at the time)

Costa, it's not a flawed VTAC system. It's the university's requirement. It has nothing to do with VTAC being a bastard. Someone who gets 25 in further gets priority over someone who got 23 in methods because they actually met the prerequisite.
It's the uni's call to accept you, and you shouldn't be angry at them when you do not meet their requirements and wish to attain a place, when there are many others who did meet requirements.

[xox.happy1.xox]

It makes me realise just how hard it was to get my 30 in methods...

[Fyrefly]

I had to drop acc or eco and i wasnt willing to do that. i wouldnt change my decision anyway. i loved economics even though i got 33. not to sound cocky but my score doesnt do justice to my understanding of economics. u can ask anyone on here, not that i have to answer to you or anything.

Same for me in Business Law at Uni. I don't feel that the mark I got in it compared to the amount that I actually knew. But, I guess, a part of that is the Business / Taxation Law dept. doesn't like giving out marks.

Tell me bout it

I found that exam fkin ridiculous, and I knew that stupid txtbook bak 2 front (aside from a few pet hates I knew I would have 2 refer 2 in the txtbook).

[xox.happy1.xox]

I had to drop acc or eco and i wasnt willing to do that. i wouldnt change my decision anyway. i loved economics even though i got 33. not to sound cocky but my score doesnt do justice to my understanding of economics. u can ask anyone on here, not that i have to answer to you or anything.

Same for me in Business Law at Uni. I don't feel that the mark I got in it compared to the amount that I actually knew. But, I guess, a part of that is the Business / Taxation Law dept. doesn't like giving out marks.

Tell me bout it

I found that exam fkin ridiculous, and I knew that stupid txtbook bak 2 front (aside from a few pet hates I knew I would have 2 refer 2 in the txtbook).

Aww... I want to do business law when I transfer over to Monash in a couple of years... :S... Surely it's not that mind boggling. XD

[costargh]

I agree with ReVeL (unless you were completely unsure as to what courses you wanted and didn't know at the time)

Costa, it's not a flawed VTAC system. It's the university's requirement. It has nothing to do with VTAC being a bastard. Someone who gets 25 in further gets priority over someone who got 23 in methods because they actually met the prerequisite.
It's the uni's call to accept you, and you shouldn't be angry at them when you do not meet their requirements and wish to attain a place, when there are many others who did meet requirements.

You're missing my point though. It's like a law. If I break a law you can't just automatically say that its my fault for breaking that law. What if the law isn't just? Thats what I am saying. How does a 25 in further take priority over a 24 in methods.

(sorry I should have been directing my rant at the university's not VTAC.. i just get confused sometimes)

[Sj]

Whilst I feel for you- it will be hard for you to get accepted- which is a real shame. However, think about it from the uni's POV and from that of other Commerce students. Personally, I had to choose methods (a subject that I really hate) over Legal- a subject that I like- just to meet to pre-requisite for Commerce. My ENTER was affected- because I would have definately got a higher score had I not chosen Methods. However, I spent a lot of time this year- fighting to ensure that I stayed on top of methods. It hardly seems fair that you get a higher ENTER score than another person- and then try and waltz in to get a spot in commerce, especially given that you had the opportunity to take Methods again.
Whilst it does seem harsh- the uni will argue that the type of Maths required to complete the commerce course- would require at least a 25 in a raw study score- and by allowing you in- it would set a precedent of other students who would "just miss out" on the pre-requisites

I hope that the Uni bends the rules for you- as you seem more than able to complete the course- however, I highly doubt it will happen.

[brendan]

i don't think the gat scores are too reliable. i recall my gat study scores fluctuating wildly from 2006 to 2007 yet i don't think my abilities changed all that much.

[brendan]

I had to drop acc or eco and i wasnt willing to do that. i wouldnt change my decision anyway. i loved economics even though i got 33. not to sound cocky but my score doesnt do justice to my understanding of economics. u can ask anyone on here, not that i have to answer to you or anything.

Same for me in Business Law at Uni. I don't feel that the mark I got in it compared to the amount that I actually knew. But, I guess, a part of that is the Business / Taxation Law dept. doesn't like giving out marks.

But, I'd have to step and rationalise a little in that, generally, they simply won't consider you if you don't meet the prerequisites (I've seen some of these cases before, although in the case of missing prerequisites - I knew a person who did *really* well with a score in the high 90s, but could not enter Medical Radiations due to lack of a Physics unit). However, I wish you the best of luck in pursuing the contact with the faculty.

I also think Eriny's suggestion is a good one as well - take a bridging course in Maths to meet this requirement through Open Universities or even redo Methods via Distance Education Centre, Victoria, TAFE or the Centre for Adult Education. A plus of this suggestion is that you can do this while taking a 'gap' year of sorts and working for a year.

that seems like the way to go, particularly if you can earn enough to be considered independent for youth allowance purposes.

[hard]

costa will get through it without a doubt.

[costargh]

im not too fussed anymore guys.

eveyrone here seems to be much more passionate about it than me (either passionate that i dont get in, or passionate that i do get in).

im happy doing somethign else... so hopefully this just just dies and is forgotten.
perhaps i will do distance ed methods, but not sure not likely.

[cns1511]

im not too fussed anymore guys.

eveyrone here seems to be much more passionate about it than me (either passionate that i dont get in, or passionate that i do get in).

im happy doing somethign else... so hopefully this just just dies and is forgotten.
perhaps i will do distance ed methods, but not sure not likely.

Well good luck with what ever you decide to do next year

[xox.happy1.xox]

im not too fussed anymore guys.

eveyrone here seems to be much more passionate about it than me (either passionate that i dont get in, or passionate that i do get in).

im happy doing somethign else... so hopefully this just just dies and is forgotten.
perhaps i will do distance ed methods, but not sure not likely.

Future law student!