Goodbye FSN

[costargh]

Lol... geez

ok 250 members? Um ok.. so out of the top 20 i would say... 5 have backed me up. the others havent commented

Coblin I have come to like to be honest. I see he can establish more then one view point and is open to discussion. Prove to me enwiabe where I have recently have a problem with coblin and recently means within say the last 2-3 weeks. Dont quote bos either.

My arguments havent purely been formulated by myself. I have taken what other have said and spoken up. You still refuse to believe that anything is wrong with the way this place is being run. Your top poster left. Your 6th top ? left. Your current 5th top has shown dissapproval. Your 3rd top (mwa) is voicing his opinion. Maybe you havent heard anyone elses voices because a lot of people dont actually post that often and arent on here enough to see what goes on

[enwiabe]

Also, brendan, if they don't provide evidence for their accusations of your poor moderation, you can request that this post be deleted for reasons of libel. Just 'reading you your rights'. Surely you know all about those laws, right, costargh? Brendan is just as entitled to have you back up your claims as you are to have me back up my claims if i were to call you a 'polka-dot-pyjama-wearing-puppy-spider'! This whole post is targeted at destroying his reputation, and, without proof, if brendan so requests it, I will have to delete this post.

[costargh]

Lol wow that post made me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside. You've changed my entire life. i love you

[enwiabe]

I refer to your allusion to a problem with coblin, when I quoted you a list of moderators in this thread and you said you didn't have a problem with Ahmad or AppleXY, but conveniently left out coblin. That's where "alluded to" came from. Now, if I misjudged that post and you simply forgot him, well then that was just a misread. Now, AGAIN, strength in numbers doesn't mean anything. Okay, so you guys post alot. That doesn't MAKE you right. That just says that you post alot and are united under one belief. What speaks a resounding volume of proof that I am running things right is the exponential growth of FSN despite the fact that I've ONLY ever 'advertised' on BoS. What speaks a resounding volume of proof that I am running things right is that we have hit 14k posts in just a month or so, when it took BoS 3 YEARS to do that in their VCE section. And even if you, and Odette and rustic_metal and the other person of which you spoke had never posted, we'd still have well in excess of 11k posts which is a growth MANY TIMES THAT of BoS. Something to the order of THIRTY times. And that's if it's linear, too.

I have the proof to show that I'm running things right. Where's your counter-proof? It's nowhere. All you have is baseless accusations.

[AppleXY]

I just cannot believe wtf is happening here? Maybe I'm blind, but I seriously I cannot see any tensions on any of these forums. Jeez, brendan is research kind of person, he wants to make his point across, he doesn't want to personally attack you like "ZOMG YOUR MUMS SO FAT THAT WHEN SHE JUMPS OFF THE GRAND CANYON SHE GOT STUCK LULZ!@#". I mean SERIOUSLY? Please stop being emotional, I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Its just little hiccups that cause this blowout. I didn't know you guys were like the Lorenz Attractor.

[costargh]

They're just statistics. We are humans and we have emotions. Sure we may mean nothing to you in the long term but that fact that we have been here from the start and have seen this place grow does show that we know something about this site.
Sorry strength in numbers doesn't mean anything? Last time I checked it was called a democracy...

You have not just advertised on BoS. You posted on the Age Vce section. Other people have done you good and recommened the site to their friends. You have made a Facebook. Other people have posted in various places because we thought that this place may actually be a good environment for everyone. This place could be filled with heaps of resources and yeh great but If the people using the site arent happy then they will inevitably move on to another site that may spring up (a resurgence of bos?) I doubt it thou... servers too slow.

So now you are implying that even though we have numbers our voices "dont mean anything"

[joshuamorgan]

costargh, how has brendan or anyone else for that matter personally offended you? You mentioned emotions, he's obviously offended you somehow. He simply rebutted your claims, he attacked the message not the messenger.

I'm sorry, but I think you're seriously over-reacting.

[enwiabe]

1) We got no members from the Age, unfortunately. I checked our traffic stats. Almost nobody clicked the link
2) Facebook was a bust. The only people on it are existing members
3) Yeah, word of mouth... whoa, couldn't be spreading because FSN is good? No, it's because i'm running it wrong!

Strength in numbers only works when the statistics are correlative. There are a lot of posts on FSN, that means people like frequenting the forum and posting. THAT'S correlative.

We have many posts. We have numbers. We disagree with you. This makes us right! THAT is not correlative. See the difference?

I'm saying your voices only mean something when they're unsubstantiated. I cannot believe you are making these wild accusations with NO proof whatsoever. It's almost like this is some kind of sick joke you're playing. How do you expect me to act here with no evidence? "Because I said so"? Sorry, that just doesn't cut it. Until you can come up with something concrete to base your accusations upon, you have nothing, and again - this is making you look FOOLISH.

[costargh]

Surprise. April fools

[bubble sunglasses]

  I admire Brendan, despite the disparity in our politics test results

    On the God thread, Costargh and others attacked him [ironically accusing him of making personal attacks] and he rebuffed their arguments with more efficient reasoning.

 It reminded me of this clip  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYlqql38XkY 

[Collin Li]

Surprise. April fools

Lucky I was not here during this conundrum.

If you still have any problems, explain them clearly with a clean slate. I never know what the hell is going on when enwiabe is arguing (I dunno, I just ignore his posts when he's in an argument coz they're just too... how do you say it... loaded, I guess).

[costargh]

Ok basically started out like this.
Today ( or yesterday I dont know)
Odette and rustic_metal left the site.
They both had problems with the way the site was being run. When I asked Odette what happened she told me that she didnt like the way the site was being run. We had a discussion which brought up Brendan as one individual who has on numerous occasions created arguments Eg God thread... where there was obviously no real answer.

I PM'ed enwiabe about my concern and also mentioned I didnt like brendan being legal mod cause he didnt even do the subject.

Edit: I also was not happy with the way enwiabe intervened in the english forum by making brendan english moderator to try and impose his authority over me as i am merely just a normal poster

He politely replied back and we spoke about the matter. Then I decided I was leaving and started the goobye thread. A few people agreed with me. Others were already gone. Enwiabe  responded. Others responded... discussion turned sour

[Collin Li]

costargh:
You misunderstand brendan's posts in the God thread. They were defensive arguments to protect the ambiguity of the existence of God. They never claimed there was no God, but they were pointing out the ridiculous nature of suggesting there must be a God. In defence of ambiguity, that would hardly be called starting arguments.

Brendan is a good moderator, who supplies good reading resources. Whether they have done the VCE subject or not is irrelevant. I am tutoring two subjects I have never done in VCE. I'm sure teachers are teaching subjects they have never done in high school too.

That is my defence of the integrity of FSN management. If you disagree, you can rebut, live with it, or leave.

[costargh]

So am i leaving?

[Toothpaste]

So am i leaving?

Your choice I guess.