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Java vs C++
« on: January 18, 2008, 01:21:53 pm »
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i'm thinking of picking up a new language, but dont know which, Java or C++??
from the syntax of these two languages they're very similar...

I am atm leaning towards C++, as i have visual studio.NET on my laptop, and (hoping) some part of my retained knowledge of the very obsolete VB might be useful?

otherwise java hardcore'ers please convince me :P
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2008, 01:23:35 pm »
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java, there is demand for java programmers in the IT industry if you plan to get a job there, although I don't know what the diff is between java and j2EE, excalibur could clear things out
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2008, 01:29:07 pm »
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best choice would be PHP.
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2008, 01:31:27 pm »
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Quote from: dcc on January 18, 2008, 01:29:07 pm
best choice would be PHP.
yeah... i was more looking at application development rather than web....
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2008, 01:39:05 pm »
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A lot of things are moving to the web though... Even enterprise applications, about 40-50% of the enterprise applications at my workplace are web-based.
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2008, 01:39:57 pm »
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I was joking, PHP wasn't an option :p

Learn both, from what I remember they both have a similiar type of syntax, and It'd be fun to learn two :P
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2008, 01:50:19 pm »
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Quote from: Obsolete Chaos on January 18, 2008, 01:21:53 pm
from the syntax of these two languages they're very similar...

Quote from: dcc on January 18, 2008, 01:39:57 pm
Learn both, from what I remember they both have a similiar type of syntax, and It'd be fun to learn two :P

This is because Java actually derives most of it's syntax from C++ :)
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2008, 02:02:01 pm »
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If you pick up C++, you won't have any troubles whatsoever with Java, and you will be a better programmer for it.

Why?

C++ is not forgiving. You do it right, or your application won't work and you won't know why. However, it will teach to to program better in the long run.
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2008, 02:17:59 pm »
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I'd learn Java first, then eventually learn C++ if need be. Java is easier, you don't have to mess around with pointers or memory management. It's simpler, and is rather safe to use, easy to debug etc. :)
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2008, 02:31:09 pm »
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Learn:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck

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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2008, 02:57:48 pm »
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If you're in it for the long run I'd say C++, but if you're just looking for a bit of programming here-and-there, I'd say Java.
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2008, 04:06:05 pm »
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Quote from: dcc on January 18, 2008, 02:31:09 pm
Learn:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck

I learnt it one day, its soooooo goood
how about: http://aegis666.com/projects/rful/
or anything on http://esolangs.org/wiki/Language_list
my personal favourite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_%28programming_language%29

thnx guys, i think i'm gonna go Java for the now, maybe C++ later... that "mess around with pointers or memory management" sounds scary, i dnt want to stuff up my computer just yet :P
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2008, 04:12:01 pm »
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It won't really stuff up your computer, it's just often annoying to worry about those things while programming.
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2008, 04:42:23 pm »
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mmm fe fe

now the question is, should i Java SE or Java EE?? (it's no longer J2SE or J2EE, they're up to 1.5/1.6 now :P 1.2 is history)
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2008, 05:21:03 pm »
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If you haven't yet learnt Java, J2SE, they are simply different APIs, as J2EE apps are usually deployed in enterprise/web environments. J2SE for learning/client applications.

I am not sure if J2EE is missing anything from what is included with SE, perhaps some javax stuff is missing? dno
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