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[AppleXY]

Imo, I'd say give him a break. He's only 9 and doesn't know much about Copyright laws.

When he becomes more older, he will then understand.

lol what a fight -__-.

and I mean, over a picture LOL.

Jeez, if you think that's bad, you should see my friends lul. I'm not surprised that they aren't in jail lol not really.

[excal]

Well, we might as well show him the right path.

In any case, you can't say that he hasn't done something wrong. Which is why I expect an apology from Khalid to everyone here so I know that he has got the message and understood that plagarism is bad. 

[BA22]

No-one else cares as much as you do excal, time to leave it alone

[excal]

I may have been a little harsh in my delivery (long day at work), and for that I apologise.

However, my original point still stands - why Khalid? What are you trying to achieve by writing off other people's work as your own?

[cara.mel]

Khalid - it is wrong to take other people's work and claim it as your own. You have done it before with your computer blog. It is obvious to us you are copying and it achieves nothing, but later on in life if you do it you will not get off scot-free.


Because of his age it does not make him completely innocent like some people here believe, but I think you can understand he does not know the consequences of his actions, and as such shouldn't be held completely accountable for them either. It should be used as a learning experience. If he copies again, then yeah sure.

I think excal's method of delivery wasn't the best but you shouldn't make it out like khalid can keep stealing under the excuse of age


Oh and nina, I have no idea how you can sleep comfortably stealing hours and hours of ms little's work to provide those exams, and the schools resources, but hey not my conscience.

[Noblesse]

o.O
hmm, let's lighten the mood of this thread!

[ninwa]

Oh and nina, I have no idea how you can sleep comfortably stealing hours and hours of ms little's work to provide those exams, and the schools resources, but hey not my conscience.

I have no idea how you can sleep comfortably knowing that there are schools out there which can't afford to have access to these resources which we did simply because they aren't rich private schools. And knowing that with a few mins uploading time and a copy/paste of a link, you could provide resources to people who otherwise would not have access to them and thus making things a little less unfair. Which is the whole point of this site, as enwiabe stated in the opening page.

It goes both ways, Mel.

[cara.mel]

I respect my teachers wishes not to publically share their materials.

[ninwa]

Good for you.

But no teacher ever asked me not to share.

[excal]

Good for you.

But no teacher ever asked me not to share.

But wait...I'm sure the assumption that if you're not told that you can share means that you can't holds much stronger than the reverse, given the current state of nature with copyright and whatnot.

A counter-example: 'I took nina's car for a ride without her telling me I could, but she never said that I couldn't'.

[ninwa]

Fair call excal. I'm probably going against my former teachers' wishes. So that makes caramel a better person than I am.

The same argument can apply to the other people who have put up exams. How can they sleep at night knowing they're stealing hours and hours of hard work by the employees of those organisations?

If you have a problem with the general issue of copyright, then attack us as a group. If you have an issue with me personally, then I ask that you discuss it with me privately.

[excal]

I have no issue with you personally, it just so happened that you attempted to justify copyright infringement to which I presented an appropriate counter-example.

If you haven't ventured into the Tech forum lately, I do actively remove discussion that relates to acts of copyright infringement. If I have missed something, please do flag it.

The point is, I'm not attacking you for your opinion. I'm simply attacking your opinion, and I will do it for anyone who presents a poor justification for copyright infringement. To date, I have seen only one plausible argument *for* justifying (not advocating) copyright infringement in that it highlights a systemic failure of a certain industry: *cough* RIAA *cough*. If you have another, please enlighten me.

[ninwa]

That last bit was more aimed at caramel.

I think you've missed my point. I was not aiming to justify Khalid's copyright infringement and I apologise if that's the impression I gave. I simply had a problem with your disproportionate (in my opinion) response to it. On its own, I have no problem with how you reacted. But considering your history of picking on him (and I know you are not the only one), I found it over the top.

I believe (edit) ONE OF THE primary aims of copyright legislation is to prevent loss of profit resulting from people stealing other people's ideas. Surely, as such a passionate advocate against copyright infringement, you would attack those who had put up practice exams rather than someone who has just put his own name on someone else's picture. Hence, disproportionate reaction.

Sorry if I didn't make that clear, I was really tired yesterday and not thinking straight.

[droodles]

NINWA FIGHTING

[excal]

Don't worry, you weren't the only one

And copyright law can be twisted so much that you can't really define it's one true aim. Just take a look at the General Public License...where the licensing terms (enforceable under copyright law) is in fact giving a freedom in software, and forcing derivatives to be the same.

The best description (which is also true to the name) is that it gives owners of intellectual property control on how their property is used...whether they give it out for free or charge for it is their prerogative.