Abortion Legislation - is it truly pro-choice?

[Eriny]

This is the same for any job.

No it isn't.

It is far from the case that in all other job market governments impose as many regulations as they do for medical practitioners. There are price caps, quotas and barriers to entry to the medical profession all imposed or lobbied for by the self-interested medical unions to prevent competitive threats to their privileged position. And people then wonder why we have a shortage of doctors...

Wait, how is it not the same for every job? Sure, the restrictions are different in nature, but there are always going to be things that you have to do in your job which may not necessarily be what you want to do. Things from wearing uniforms to abiding by a code of practice are all conditions of employment.

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Why would you want to abort without saving at a save point?

[cns1511]

Why would you want to abort without saving at a save point?

That would be like saving 3 months into a pregnancy.. "Oh, I can't play now *save* I'll finish having this baby another time"

[rhjc.1991]

Well, as a Catholic, I am against abortion.

But, let's think about it in a human way. I will consider the case where the expecting mother has been abandoned by the father.

Is it right to blame the woman while the man walks off burden-free? I think that we really need to give the woman the final option.

Also, I am against forcing Catholic doctors to conduct abortion surgeries. It's a religious belief. If Sikhs are allowed to grow their beards at school and Muslim women wear hijabs (both of which are perfectly acceptable), why aren't we allowed to preserve our belief's doctrines as well?

[mypurpleundercracka]

Well, as a Catholic, I am against abortion.

But, let's think about it in a human way. I will consider the case where the expecting mother has been abandoned by the father.

Is it right to blame the woman while the man walks off burden-free? I think that we really need to give the woman the final option.

Also, I am against forcing Catholic doctors to conduct abortion surgeries. It's a religious belief. If Sikhs are allowed to grow their beards at school and Muslim women wear hijabs (both of which are perfectly acceptable), why aren't we allowed to preserve our belief's doctrines as well?

+1

[Collin Li]

Well, as a Catholic, I am against abortion.

But, let's think about it in a human way. I will consider the case where the expecting mother has been abandoned by the father.

Is it right to blame the woman while the man walks off burden-free? I think that we really need to give the woman the final option.

Also, I am against forcing Catholic doctors to conduct abortion surgeries. It's a religious belief. If Sikhs are allowed to grow their beards at school and Muslim women wear hijabs (both of which are perfectly acceptable), why aren't we allowed to preserve our belief's doctrines as well?

Exactly my viewpoint, except from an agnostic.

[cardiovascular]

Well, as a Catholic, I am against abortion.

But, let's think about it in a human way. I will consider the case where the expecting mother has been abandoned by the father.

Is it right to blame the woman while the man walks off burden-free? I think that we really need to give the woman the final option.

Also, I am against forcing Catholic doctors to conduct abortion surgeries. It's a religious belief. If Sikhs are allowed to grow their beards at school and Muslim women wear hijabs (both of which are perfectly acceptable), why aren't we allowed to preserve our belief's doctrines as well?

When you become a Doctor your religion should not get in the way. Women should have the choice its is their body after all. Everyone regardless of religion should be able to make decisions for themselves. Or maybe we should ban catholics from being doctors if they are going to pick and choose which parts of the job they are willing to do.

[mypurpleundercracka]

Well, as a Catholic, I am against abortion.

But, let's think about it in a human way. I will consider the case where the expecting mother has been abandoned by the father.

Is it right to blame the woman while the man walks off burden-free? I think that we really need to give the woman the final option.

Also, I am against forcing Catholic doctors to conduct abortion surgeries. It's a religious belief. If Sikhs are allowed to grow their beards at school and Muslim women wear hijabs (both of which are perfectly acceptable), why aren't we allowed to preserve our belief's doctrines as well?

When you become a Doctor your religion should not get in the way. Women should have the choice its is their body after all. Everyone regardless of religion should be able to make decisions for themselves. Or maybe we should ban catholics from being doctors if they are going to pick and choose which parts of the job they are willing to do.

ban catholics? dont think we should be taking a step back toward the 17th century british penal laws

[cardiovascular]

Well, as a Catholic, I am against abortion.

But, let's think about it in a human way. I will consider the case where the expecting mother has been abandoned by the father.

Is it right to blame the woman while the man walks off burden-free? I think that we really need to give the woman the final option.

Also, I am against forcing Catholic doctors to conduct abortion surgeries. It's a religious belief. If Sikhs are allowed to grow their beards at school and Muslim women wear hijabs (both of which are perfectly acceptable), why aren't we allowed to preserve our belief's doctrines as well?

When you become a Doctor your religion should not get in the way. Women should have the choice its is their body after all. Everyone regardless of religion should be able to make decisions for themselves. Or maybe we should ban catholics from being doctors if they are going to pick and choose which parts of the job they are willing to do.

ban catholics? dont think we should be taking a step back toward the 17th century british penal laws

But you agree that catholicism is an excuse for not allowing women choice?

[excal]

But you agree that catholicism is an excuse for not allowing women choice?

But do you agree that allowing women choice is an excuse for not allowing doctors choice?

[cardiovascular]

Religion should not influence doctors, thats what im saying. Allowing women choice is more important than the issue of religion. Doctors have the choice..when they choose to become a doctor on the other hand many women that become pregnant are denied this choice. I suggest that if a doctor cannot perform the duties of being a doctor because of religion they shouldn't be a doctor.

[excal]

Since when was it defined as a 'duty of a doctor'?

If its desired by the industry (i.e., by its users), it should regulate itself. There is no need for the legislation to intervene on such a low-level matter. 

[cardiovascular]

If a doctor is catholic and doesn't like abortions they should be in an area of medicine that has nothing to do with...ABORTIONS!
Abortions are not an "industry."

[rhjc.1991]

Well, as a Catholic, I am against abortion.

But, let's think about it in a human way. I will consider the case where the expecting mother has been abandoned by the father.

Is it right to blame the woman while the man walks off burden-free? I think that we really need to give the woman the final option.

Also, I am against forcing Catholic doctors to conduct abortion surgeries. It's a religious belief. If Sikhs are allowed to grow their beards at school and Muslim women wear hijabs (both of which are perfectly acceptable), why aren't we allowed to preserve our belief's doctrines as well?

When you become a Doctor your religion should not get in the way. Women should have the choice its is their body after all. Everyone regardless of religion should be able to make decisions for themselves. Or maybe we should ban catholics from being doctors if they are going to pick and choose which parts of the job they are willing to do.

ban catholics? dont think we should be taking a step back toward the 17th century british penal laws

But you agree that catholicism is an excuse for not allowing women choice?

Women have the option of finding another doctor who is willing to perform the necessary operation. If the Catholics do not want to perform the operation, no laws should force them to do so. Such laws would be discriminatory and forcing many obstetrician out of job due to moral obligations.

[rhjc.1991]

If a doctor is catholic and doesn't like abortions they should be in an area of medicine that has nothing to do with...ABORTIONS!
Abortions are not an "industry."

Technically, obstetricians are primarily about delivering babies, not abortions. Many doctors are willing to do abortions since it is more high-paying (up to 5 times more I heard), and they don't have to be Catholic.