6 or 7 subjects all up?

[hard]

Okay as most people know from my sig i've completed two subjects this year and completing 4 next year. However, i'm starting to think what i should do if i get accepted in UMEP. Do you guys think it would be reasonable to take on 5 subjects, in year 12? while i know it's not much, but at the end one subject is left out completely to which i'm thinking it would be VCD. So should i drop specialist if i get accepted into UMEP or keep it?

[costargh]

Do 5.
I had 8 subjects all up.

[applekid]

It is reasonable to take five subjects, I'm sure many people do it, but four is a MUCH easier workload.
However I'm not sure if the workload is different for a UMEP.

It also depends if you like spesh? Do you have much confidence in methods (seeing as you hope only for a 36)? Seeing as spesh is probably more demanding... what are your expectations? Do you like maths?

[hard]

It is reasonable to take five subjects, I'm sure many people do it, but four is a MUCH easier workload.
However I'm not sure if the workload is different for a UMEP.

It also depends if you like spesh? Do you have much confidence in methods (seeing as you hope only for a 36)? Seeing as spesh is probably more demanding... what are your expectations? Do you like maths?

if i try i understand maths easily but i don't put much effort into maths so hopefully i will next year. Amm, well for spesh i don't except anything higher than 33 tbh but not sure whether i can handle the workload of spesh plus UMEP?

[applekid]

It is reasonable to take five subjects, I'm sure many people do it, but four is a MUCH easier workload.
However I'm not sure if the workload is different for a UMEP.

It also depends if you like spesh? Do you have much confidence in methods (seeing as you hope only for a 36)? Seeing as spesh is probably more demanding... what are your expectations? Do you like maths?

if i try i understand maths easily but i don't put much effort into maths so hopefully i will next year. Amm, well for spesh i don't except anything higher than 33 tbh but not sure whether i can handle the workload of spesh plus UMEP?

Ok. I think you could quite confidently handle the workload, but is it necessary? What would your motives for doing spesh be?
I do not support superfluous work.       

[hard]

It is reasonable to take five subjects, I'm sure many people do it, but four is a MUCH easier workload.
However I'm not sure if the workload is different for a UMEP.

It also depends if you like spesh? Do you have much confidence in methods (seeing as you hope only for a 36)? Seeing as spesh is probably more demanding... what are your expectations? Do you like maths?

if i try i understand maths easily but i don't put much effort into maths so hopefully i will next year. Amm, well for spesh i don't except anything higher than 33 tbh but not sure whether i can handle the workload of spesh plus UMEP?

Ok. I think you could quite confidently handle the workload, but is it necessary? What would your motives for doing spesh be?
I do not support superfluous work.      

well nearly of the engineering courses add roughly 2 aggregate points to your overall aggregate if you have completed specialist so i'm thinking that would be beneficial. Plus spesh would help me understand uni maths much easier i would assume.

[dekoyl]

I did one this year (methods) and if I get accepted into UMEP, I might be doing 6. However if I do get accepted, and if I think I'm coping okay (ie. I'm 100% sure I'll get the aggregate for UMEP), I'll probably drop my language.
I think you should be fine if you do 5 next year.

PS. Do you know what UMEP philosophy is like? I mean, if it's significantly different than your other subjects, then it might change your perspective on things. In my case, I'm doing UMEP maths and specialist maths as well so in a way (albeit not directly), UMEP can help with specialist.

[Eriny]

Take 5 for the first few weeks and drop one if you can't manage the work. You really don't need 7 subjects, but if you're aiming for a high-end score, the difference between a 2.something as an increment and say, a 4.0 could make a big enough difference to worry about.

Maybe have a go on the ENTER calculator and see?

[hard]

Take 5 for the first few weeks and drop one if you can't manage the work. You really don't need 7 subjects, but if you're aiming for a high-end score, the difference between a 2.something as an increment and say, a 4.0 could make a big enough difference to worry about.

Maybe have a go on the ENTER calculator and see?

yer i might try that.

[bubble sunglasses]

 Also, with UMEP, if you happened to decide just to try and pass [and get 4.5] it might have still been interesting/worthwhile

[humph]

 Also, with UMEP, if you happened to decide just to try and pass [and get 4.5] it might have still been interesting/worthwhile

It's only 4.0 if you pass. But it's really not that hard at all to get 5.0 (60-79).

[dekoyl]

It's only 4.0 if you pass. But it's really not that hard at all to get 5.0 (60-79).

So to clarify, if you beat 60% of people who are taking UMEP maths, you get 4.0.
If you're in the top 40% you get 5.0.
If you're in the top 20% you get a 5.5.

Yes?

[humph]

It's only 4.0 if you pass. But it's really not that hard at all to get 5.0 (60-79).

So to clarify, if you beat 60% of people who are taking UMEP maths, you get 4.0.
If you're in the top 40% you get 5.0.
If you're in the top 20% you get a 5.5.

Yes?

Your maths fails; the way you've written it, a 4.0 and a 5.0 are the same I think you mean 50% for the first one...

This makes no sense, mind you, to fail half the people taking the course. I have my doubts as to whether this is actually how the scoring works; most actual university subjects have something like 10-15% scores over 80, 15-20% 70-79, 25-30% 60-69, 20-25% 50-59, and 10-15% 0-50. It seems a bit harsh to have half the people doing university enhancements to get no recognition for it...

[dekoyl]

Your maths fails; the way you've written it, a 4.0 and a 5.0 are the same I think you mean 50% for the first one...

This makes no sense, mind you, to fail half the people taking the course. I have my doubts as to whether this is actually how the scoring works; most actual university subjects have something like 10-15% scores over 80, 15-20% 70-79, 25-30% 60-69, 20-25% 50-59, and 10-15% 0-50. It seems a bit harsh to have half the people doing university enhancements to get no recognition for it...

Gosh, how embarrassing and I'm asking about UMEP maths too. =\

I just did a quick search:

Above 80th percentile: 5.5
Between 60th up to 80th percentile: 5.0
Pass mark up to 60th percentile: 4.0

Yes, I think you're right. That just leaves what the pass mark is =]

[dekoyl]

At least for mine (at Monash), they didn't fail anyone as long as they attended most lectures, asked a few questions to feign interest, showed evidence of wider reading, and for exams/assignments, regurgitated what had been said during lectures while quoting one or two external sources.

The thing I like about UMEP maths is how assignments marks contribute to the final score:

Up to 50 pages of written assignments (0% or 10%), a 2 hour written examination and a 3 hour written examination during the examination period in November (90% or 100%). The relative weighting of the examinations and the assignments will be chosen so as to maximise the final mark.

I think it's pretty good how flexible they made it.