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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2008, 12:46:46 am »
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Probably a public primary school, though like Brendan suggested, this would depend heavily on the socio-economic level of the suburb I'd be living. For high school, either a selective school or a decent private school that offers IB in yr11&12.
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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2008, 12:48:52 am »
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if i had the money it would be private school all the way, and then maybe MHS/MacRob for 9-12.

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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2008, 01:12:54 am »
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I find the aversion to public schools (or middle/low performing public schools) rather interesting. To risk sounding like I'm from Summer Heights High, they really aren't *that* bad. I think they tend to bring the middle performing kids down (while selective or good or private schools bring the middle performing kids up), the really good and really bad students don't seem all that affected (this is just anecdotal). That said, I think I would have valued more from being among high performing peers. I don't know if I would have actually done better, but I'd probably have a better insight into what it takes to be a *good* student.

But then, I'm still getting quite a bit of attention from my old school. It's like a distant relative or something. And I had very good relationships with my teachers who are still encouraging me to do my best, maybe partly because I wasn't competing with a bunch of other *good* students and therefore stood out. It would be interesting to find out if the things I was singled out for are actually commonplace in *better* schools, or if how the teachers assessed my abilities were correct. Going to a lower performing school makes me suspect the former.

So, in essence, I'm saying: I don't know.

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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2008, 09:22:52 pm »
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But then, I'm still getting quite a bit of attention from my old school. It's like a distant relative or something. And I had very good relationships with my teachers who are still encouraging me to do my best, maybe partly because I wasn't competing with a bunch of other *good* students and therefore stood out. It would be interesting to find out if the things I was singled out for are actually commonplace in *better* schools, or if how the teachers assessed my abilities were correct. Going to a lower performing school makes me suspect the former.

So, in essence, I'm saying: I don't know.

I agree with the former also. Coming from an underprivileged school had it's advantages. I became well known because of the amount of study I have done over my VCE; and I was the principal's favourite! I made him proud! :)... There were only 6 above me, so I think my achievement was well deserved for all the effort I put in and the fact that there weren't many like me made me feel 'special'.

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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2008, 10:40:51 pm »
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Grade Prep to 2 - Public

2-12 - To the private school I used to go to :P.

Ohhh... I got the same ENTER as someone from a private school! :D
And you probably bet 90% of the Year 12's at my old school :D :D 

Is that something to be proud of? ;D

YES :D :D

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« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2008, 10:41:58 pm »
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Grade Prep to 2 - Public

2-12 - To the private school I used to go to :P.

Ohhh... I got the same ENTER as someone from a private school! :D
And you probably bet 90% of the Year 12's at my old school :D :D 

Is that something to be proud of? ;D

YES :D :D

Wow, I did do well then! :) (Public school FTW!)

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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2008, 10:57:19 pm »
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if i had the money it would be private school all the way, and then maybe MHS/MacRob for 9-12.
The thing is, once you are used to a school it is hard to change. If you've gone 2 years (7 and 8) at say a public school, it would be hard to leave all your friends behind and getting used to the system to start it all over again.

Whether you go to a private or public school doesn't matter in terms of your TER - what matters is the dedication you give towards your study.

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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #67 on: December 20, 2008, 10:57:59 pm »
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Whether you go to a private or public school doesn't matter in terms of your TER - what matters is the dedication you give towards your study.

Exactly!!!

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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2008, 11:29:18 pm »
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Probably a public primary school, though like Brendan suggested, this would depend heavily on the socio-economic level of the suburb I'd be living. For high school, either a selective school or a decent private school that offers IB in yr11&12.

Whats your obsession with IB? Like, whats so especially good about it compared to VCE?

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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #69 on: December 21, 2008, 01:33:19 am »
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Probably a public primary school, though like Brendan suggested, this would depend heavily on the socio-economic level of the suburb I'd be living. For high school, either a selective school or a decent private school that offers IB in yr11&12.

Whats your obsession with IB? Like, whats so especially good about it compared to VCE?
I just think it prepares you much better for university; there's a lot more independence. I find the subjects much more appealing too, but that's just personal preference. It's good how it tests (somewhat) how much of an all-rounder you are at school, not just your best subjects (this difference is most notable when you compare IB to something like English A-levels).

This is quite influenced by the fact that my older sister did the IB, and I personally completed the IB middle years program (but not the final two years; I did VCE instead).
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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2008, 01:52:07 am »
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Whether you go to a private or public school doesn't matter in terms of your TER - what matters is the dedication you give towards your study.

Well 1000s of parents would disagree with you. If the school didn't matter, and all that mattered was your own dedication, why the need for a school or even a teacher?

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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #71 on: December 21, 2008, 09:26:25 am »
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Whether you go to a private or public school doesn't matter in terms of your TER - what matters is the dedication you give towards your study.

Well 1000s of parents would disagree with you. If the school didn't matter, and all that mattered was your own dedication, why the need for a school or even a teacher?

I basically had no help from teachers, no interaction from students and other various misfortunes all throughout the year... And I still managed a quite decent ENTER... I got a self-made ENTER... School only matters if you want it to matter...

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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #72 on: December 21, 2008, 12:05:53 pm »
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The fact of the matter is that it does matter, independent of the student's ability.

A study done by Australian Council for Educational Research and the Melbourne Institute for Applied Economic and Social Research found that:

When controlling for socioeconomic background and [Year 9] achievement in literacy and numeracy, the average ENTER score of independent and Catholic school students is 5 and 3 score points above that of government school students.

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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2008, 12:13:20 pm »
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The fact of the matter is that it does matter, independent of the student's ability.

A study done by Australian Council for Educational Research and the Melbourne Institute for Applied Economic and Social Research found that:

When controlling for socioeconomic background and [Year 9] achievement in literacy and numeracy, the average ENTER score of independent and Catholic school students is 5 and 3 score points above that of government school students.

Hmm I agree... It does matter which school you go to... Most students (not all) are at a level where they can do well if they're given a bit of a push... however if you don't attend a school which will encourage and support you throughout your schooling, then you'll end up with "ok" results... At some schools (especially mine) the school doesn't have the experience or resources to give those students the push they need to succeed...
Speaking from personal experience, had I attended another school, I would have definitely gotten a higher ENTER.



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Re: Where will you send your children?
« Reply #74 on: December 21, 2008, 12:27:34 pm »
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