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Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« on: January 01, 2009, 11:18:01 pm »
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Israel is not seeking an extended military campaign in the Gaza Strip, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said during an appearance on Thursday in rocket-besieged Be'er Sheva.

"It became clear that it is impossible to live under these circumstances," the premier, who also met with municipal and council heads of southern communities, said. "We could not come to terms with the situation in which hundreds of thousands of people go to sleep and wake up in fear, uncertainty, and discomfort. We will act so that there will be quiet in the communities of the south."

 
 
 
"We did not declare war against the residents of Gaza, but against Hamas we will act with an iron fist," Olmert said. "Hamas is making things difficult for us, but more so for its people."

The prime minister said he is hopeful the goals of the operation will be attained quickly. "We have no interest in waging a prolonged war," he said. "What we want is that our children will grow up in security and that they will not need to run away from the shrieking whistles of rockets."

"We also are not eager to wage a war on a wide front," Olmert said. "We want quiet and that the way of life in the south will change so that the children will not live in fear."

The premier also addressed concerns that the Gaza operation was beginning to resemble the Second Lebanon War. "In contrast to the war in Lebanon, there is no sense of collapse or a lack of capability, but rather there is a sense that the home front is being cared for quickly."

The premier also refuted claims of a rift between him and his two key cabinet ministers, Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni. "What was said and written in the newspapers is not what we know," Olmert said. "There is a government that is functioning with full cooperation. I won't allow election season politics into the rooms where decisions are made."

Olmert is interested in the establishment of an international supervision and enforcement mechanism for any cease-fire between Israel and Hamas. Olmert has made that a precondition of any deal and emphasized it in talks with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and other world leades.

"Israel cannot agree that the only party responsible for implementing and regulating the cease-fire be Hamas," a senior Israeli diplomatic source said yesterday.

According to the source, lack of an external supervisory body was the central reason for the collapse of the calm earlier this month.

"The situation in which Hamas didn't have to account for implementing the cease-fire did not prove viable," the source said.

Olmert clarified in yesterday's cabinet meeting that Israel will not end the Gaza operation until it achieves its goals. The cabinet did not debate any cease-fire proposals and resolved to continue the operation already approved.

"We did not go into the Gaza operation only to end it while rocket fire continues," Olmert said.

According to Olmert, a decision now to opt for a cease-fire would carry a heavy price.

"Let's say we unilaterally stopped and a few days from now a barrage fell on Ashkelon," he said. "Do you understand the consequences in Israel and the region? For Israeli deterrence, for Israeli measures."






http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1051909.html





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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2009, 11:23:52 pm »
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tell that to the 400 or so people killed, or the 100 or more civilians who lost their lives.

suenoga

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2009, 11:27:25 pm »
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The death of civillians is tragic. But why would you mention the majority of people killed who are extremists/terrorists?

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2009, 11:33:23 pm »
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The death of civillians is tragic. But why would you mention the majority of people killed who are extremists/terrorists?
i didn't. if you misspelt the question and intended for wouldn't as opposed to would, i would state that hamas were in fact democratically elected by the palestinian people

suenoga

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2009, 11:36:33 pm »
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sorry, stupid wording on my part. I meant why would you say "tell  that to the 400 or so people killed, or the 100 or more civilians who lost their lives", when you could have only mentioned the civiliians.

osmoister

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2009, 11:39:53 pm »
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sorry, stupid wording on my part. I meant why would you say "tell  that to the 400 or so people killed, or the 100 or more civilians who lost their lives", when you could have only mentioned the civiliians.

that's still 300 or so lives that are lost, belonging to a party that was democratically elected and ousted from power

suenoga

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2009, 11:43:01 pm »
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that's still 300 or so lives that are lost, belonging to a party that was democratically elected and ousted from power
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 Does it matter if they were democraticly elected? That hardly justifies  their actions. Also, Hamas are still in power

osmoister

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2009, 11:45:49 pm »
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Does it matter if they were democraticly elected? That hardly justifies  their actions. Also, Hamas are still in power

what actions are you refering to? and still in power? do you know the size of gaza compared to west bank, how are they still in power?

suenoga

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2009, 11:53:56 pm »
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What actions? Something like 60 suicide bomb attacks inside Israel which have killed hundreds of people.  As well as countless amounts of rockets being sent out of Gaza into the south of Israel. 

I do know the size of Gaza compared to the West Bank. I also know that Fatah  not Hamas holds  the West Bank, Hamas have never controlled it.  So I don't see how they were "ousted from power" as you claim

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2009, 11:55:50 pm »
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Hitler was democratically elected, did it make what he did with his leadership any less illegal? No.

Hamas is a terrorist organisation that must be dismantled if there is to be peace in the Middle East.

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2009, 11:58:12 pm »
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killed hundreds of people? ok what they did was wrong, but israels done worse. compare the number of palestinians killed by israelis compared to vice versa, see who has killed more. hamas was democratically elected where they not? hamas did hold the prime ministerial postion until they were deposed did they not?

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2009, 11:58:45 pm »
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Hitler was democratically elected, did it make what he did with his leadership any less illegal? No.
was just thinking that!

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osmoister

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2009, 11:59:37 pm »
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Hamas is a terrorist organisation that must be dismantled if there is to be peace in the Middle East.

fatah were terrorists before, where they not?

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2009, 12:01:24 am »
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why is  Israel  worse? Israel does not target civillians, Hamas does.  Hamas was democraticly elected but did not hold  and has never held (to my knowledge) the prime ministerial position. I think you are confused.

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Re: Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2009, 12:02:20 am »
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killed hundreds of people? ok what they did was wrong, but israels done worse. compare the number of palestinians killed by israelis compared to vice versa, see who has killed more. hamas was democratically elected where they not? hamas did hold the prime ministerial postion until they were deposed did they not?

What is this "Israel has done worse" argument simply on the scale of numbers killed?

I think a better statistic with which to compare the two is "Number of civilians intentionally killed". Hamas deliberately sets up its quarters in civilian areas (like universities) to maximise collateral damage from any Israeli strike on it. It is a deliberate ploy to use its citizens to win sympathy. It is one of the most disgusting acts of treachery ever seen in the field of war.