Olmert: Israel has no interest in a prolonged war in Gaza

[osmoister]

Who were tragically but accidentally killed. Wake up to yourself! Israel targets terrorists. Hamas target civilians. I'm not saying Israel is perfect but they have the right to protect their citizens.

tragic or accident they may be in you view, but their still 100 bodies that have lost life. and hamas has the right to protect its people from a major threat, the israeli army.

[osmoister]

You still didn't address my point from before.

Hitler was democratically elected, do you think Britain going to war with Germany and killing civilians in their airstrikes was unjustified, given Hitler's military actions?

It's the SAME situation in Gaza.

Hamas was elected to power, and has used that power to wage war on Israel. Israel has every right to wipe out such a vile terrorist organisation.

yes, hitler was democratically elected. as were many israeli presidnets who have killed palestinian civillians. the israeli political parties have waged many wars against palestinians. vile they may be to you, but to many in the region, they are the only people standing up to the people who MASSACRE palestinians.

[suenoga]

tragic or accident they may be in you view, but their still 100 bodies that have lost life. and hamas has the right to protect its people from a major threat, the israeli army.
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That's BS. If Hamas were "protecting" citizens from the army, you would think they would attack the army and not civillians!  Are you comparing the Israeli army to Hamas?  

[osmoister]

Who are Israel a "threat" to?. Do you think Israel would be in gaza if Hamas had not continued firing rockets across the border?

A threat to the palestinians. and yes, israel would be in gaza. afterall, why not take more of their land than they allready have right?

[suenoga]

yes, hitler was democratically elected. as were many israeli presidnets who have killed palestinian civillians. the israeli political parties have waged many wars against palestinians. vile they may be to you, but to many in the region, they are the only people standing up to the people who MASSACRE palestinians.
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I think you mean PM's rather then Presidents. Which  war has Israeli waged against Palestinains? Most have been waged against Israel by the Arab States.  Israel has only attacked Palestinain terrorists due to provocation.  I'm starting to think you know very little about the situastion.

[osmoister]

That's BS. If Hamas were "protecting" citizens from the army, you would think they would attack the army and not civillians!  Are you comparing the Israeli army to Hamas?  

i'm saying the israeli army are every bit, if not worse than hamas. they target civilians the same way hamas do and they kill much worse. the only difference is, israel kills civilians and hamas because they can, whereas hamas don't have the capabilities to target the israeli army.

[enwiabe]

Osmoister, you refuse to argue on topic and are extremely one-sided and irrational. I will not argue further with you, when you clearly refuse to see reason.

I also advise you that you are walking a fine line when you slur Israel as "massacring" palestinians.

If you attempt to use bigotry in your arguments, you WILL face punitive action as per the Code of Conduct.

Good day, sir.

[osmoister]

I think you mean PM's rather then Presidents. Which  war has Israeli waged against Palestinains? Most have been waged against Israel by the Arab States.  Israel has only attacked Palestinain terrorists due to provocation.  I'm starting to think you know very little about the situastion.

pm or president, the end justifies the means. war? israel has occupied palestinian land for many decades, and has invaded many times. that's not war? im starting to think you know absolutely nothing about the situation, given you didn't even know hamas had a palestinian prime minister

[suenoga]

I made a mistake. Like your mistake in thinking that  the presidents in Israel were the head of government. Tell me. Why is Israel "occupying" Palestinian land?

[osmoister]

Osmoister, you refuse to argue on topic and are extremely one-sided and irrational. I will not argue further with you, when you clearly refuse to see reason.

I also advise you that you are walking a fine line when you slur Israel as "massacring" palestinians.

If you attempt to use bigotry in your arguments, you WILL face punitive action as per the Code of Conduct.

Good day, sir.

ok, you want me to stop. i understand. and i don't support hamas, just don't appreciate what the israeli army is doing. it's funny how i'm one sided, when you guys don't understand the number of palestinans killed by israel and it's significance, but whatever. i don't think i've changed the topic from the israel-palestine conflict from the beggining, but you're the boss. i have seen on numerous occasions the term massacre used in context where far more people have been killed than the palestinians, but i accept what you've said. its 1am and i also need sleep.

[osmoister]

I made a mistake. Like your mistake in thinking that  the presidents in Israel were the head of government. Tell me. Why is Israel "occupying" Palestinian land?

I think you mean PM's rather then Presidents. Which  war has Israeli waged against Palestinains? Most have been waged against Israel by the Arab States.  Israel has only attacked Palestinain terrorists due to provocation.  I'm starting to think you know very little about the situastion.

 israel HAS occupied palestinian land for many decades, and has invaded many times.

[osmoister]

maybe read a history book before bed?

maybe you need to read one on palestinian history between 1947 - early 1990s.

[excal]

Though I agree with the comparison with Nazi Germany, I must declare that Godwin's Law has been invoked upon this thread.

Merely being elected to power does not change the nature of your organisation one bit...it takes a little more than that.

[brendan]

someone mentioned that "intention" is important, i don't think it is. if you walk to the shops to buy bread, you inevitably will wear down your shoes a little bit. Though people do not ordinarily "intend" to wear down their shoes, it is a reasonably foreseeable consequence. A civilian death is a civilian death.

[brendan]

you are walking a fine line when you slur Israel as "massacring" palestinians.

Wherever he is walking, I do not think he has crossed any line:

yes, hitler was democratically elected. as were many israeli presidnets who have killed palestinian civillians. the israeli political parties have waged many wars against palestinians. vile they may be to you, but to many in the region, they are the only people standing up to the people who MASSACRE palestinians.