How do I convince a mate to stop taking ecstasy?

[costargh]

Someone?

Hes 15 and 55kg or something so hes a tiny kid. Hes gonna fuck himself

[ninwa]

Find (hopefully) gruesome pictures of ecstasy addicts and what happens to them, and inundate him with said pictures.

Tell him repeatedly that he's an idiot and he's fucking up his life and that you are losing respect for him (assuming he cares enough about what you think)

[costargh]

I should add that every time I tell him he should stop he calls me a hypocrit (not in terms of ecstacy or anything i perceived to be bad such as that)

So, it makes convinicing so much harder. Especiallt the "im losing respect 4 u". Cood come right back at me.

(Lets not make this about me, its about trying 2 convince my mate 2 stop)

[enwiabe]

Get his parents involved. He'll hate you at first, but you'll save his life.

[ZachCharge]

If not parents you can get the eviler alternative, your school's student services or councilor if they have them (your friend is still in school right?). They would make a gigantic fuss about it and would be able to contact other organisations that deal with these situations. It would be nay impossible for you to stop (or convince) him yourself, save for tying him in a chair for the rest of his life.

[jackinthepatch]

Tell him cocaine is better.


Alternatively, just tell him he's being a fag for doing it. That's what I do with my mates, just tell them that it's fuckin stupid. When they see me looking down on them they feel bad, and realize how gay it is to pop pills nd shit. Not that it stops them though...so yeah maybe just follow everyone else's advice and disregard what I just said lol.

[ninwa]

(okay, so this is making the massive assumption that

I should add that every time I tell him he should stop he calls me a hypocrit (not in terms of ecstacy or anything i perceived to be bad such as that)

means that you have also taken drugs before in your life)

So, it makes convinicing so much harder. Especiallt the "im losing respect 4 u". Cood come right back at me.

Tell him that you had the strength to stop because you had the brains to realise it was screwing up your life, and ask him why he doesn't have the balls to do it too, and suggest repeatedly that you are a bigger man than him. Hit him where it hurts; otherwise nothing will happen. He might hate you now but when he grows his brain back he'll realise you did him a *huge* favour.

If all else fails then getting parents involved is probably the best option. And if that doesn't work ... then school. And if THAT doesn't work then threaten to call the police on him (don't know how effective that'll be)

[Eriny]

Don't attack him, he'll only get defensive. Maybe a d&m is in order instead. Ask him why he takes it and tell him that you are genuinely worried - you don't want anything bad to happen to him. And bad stuff really can happen. Taking ecstacy is basically playing Russian roulette with your life - you don't know what's in it. Also, you dehydrate easier which can lead to hospitalisation. If you mix it with alcohol you're basically dead, etc.

But he probably knows all this stuff already, everyone does drug education and hears stories on the news about people dying and so on. So, understanding why he does it will mean that the real problem can be discovered.

Definitely tell parents. And if they're no good then get him to a councilor or something.

Also, take care of yourself and etc. If something does happen to him, it's not your fault, you're doing your best, which is really great.

[costargh]

1. I could never get his parents involved. He's a mate from work, only known him for 6 weeks or so.

2. Bigger man talk could work.

3. I genuienly like Eriny's line of thought "asking why he takes it" etc. I've already told him about how you dont know whats in it but he showed me this website that apparently shows the batches of drugs that u can buy and theyre reviewed by users so he goes by that.

4. He has said to me that he will only do it every few months now (eg. he wants to on his bday). Still doesnt make me feel much better but better than what he apparently used 2 do.

5. The thing is, he is a smart kid. Deceptively smart. Just he seems to like calculated risks. He seems to think that he can take out some of the risks by doing research etc. But I keep telling him there are certain things u cant control (eg whats in it).  Apparently most ecstacy tablets these days arent even pure MDMA, just a mix of other crap that has a similar effect.

6. I def cannot tell his parents. He already knows too much top secret shit about me which he could use against me. So no go zone.

[ninwa]

Don't attack him, he'll only get defensive. Maybe a d&m is in order instead.

That's a really good idea, just difficult to carry out. Do you think it's possible that he will open up to you? If you've only known him for 6 weeks it might be more difficult. I've found that sometimes it's easier to get someone to open up if you tell them some "secret" thing about yourself ... dnms work best when they are mutual.

[dcc]

Make him watch 'Requiem for a Dream'.  He'll never look at drugs the same way again!

(Seriously, its the most fucked up movie, I was so disgusted by the shit I saw in that movie)

[costargh]

Don't attack him, he'll only get defensive. Maybe a d&m is in order instead.

That's a really good idea, just difficult to carry out. Do you think it's possible that he will open up to you? If you've only known him for 6 weeks it might be more difficult. I've found that sometimes it's easier to get someone to open up if you tell them some "secret" thing about yourself ... dnms work best when they are mutual.

Yes in some respects he has. And I have in return. We have similarities so we seem to talk about things very openly.

I think I jjust need to get more inside his head sorta thing without sounding intrusive.

@phagist: Thanks for that!!! really helpful!

Thanks everyone

[Eriny]

Make him watch 'Requiem for a Dream'.  He'll never look at drugs the same way again!

(Seriously, its the most fucked up movie, I was so disgusted by the shit I saw in that movie)

yeah that movie was pretty hardcore

I third that. Geez it was disturbing.

[hard]

Make him watch 'Requiem for a Dream'.  He'll never look at drugs the same way again!

(Seriously, its the most fucked up movie, I was so disgusted by the shit I saw in that movie)

yeah that movie was pretty hardcore

I third that. Geez it was disturbing.

crazy movie but helluva ending and helluva storyline. 9/10. but disturbing.

[gfb]

If he doesn't listen to sweet-talk,  get your fists involved .