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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2009, 10:41:43 am »
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people build immunity to it......
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #46 on: May 08, 2009, 01:37:03 pm »
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people build immunity to it......

of course. The ones who don't die, that is.
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #47 on: May 08, 2009, 05:37:10 pm »
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yeah and how many died!? like something around 21!!!! so far

very low number! considering the big fcken hype about crapola
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #48 on: May 08, 2009, 05:52:22 pm »
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people build immunity to it......

so does the flu. Way faster than we can.

yeah and how many died!? like something around 21!!!! so far

very low number! considering the big fcken hype about crapola

The number of people infected with influenza really isn't relevant in terms of what is a "pandemic" or "epidemic". Rather, it is the geographical spread of the virus.

You got to remember that getting a confirmed diagnosis of this flu isn't just merely a blood test to your local pathologist. There are specific labs which have the WHO accreditation and only they can diagnose avian influenza. I remember reading somewhere that as a result of this recent case, there is a back log of testing to be done and as a result they are about a week or so of cases still to be tested. Basically this means that the number of infected or dead is basically a week behind, which you can't rely on, if there is a rapid spread of infection.
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #49 on: May 08, 2009, 06:24:03 pm »
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a week behind wat so now its 50 dead? .... yes new viruses are potentially deadly but i believe this virus has been way exaggerated by media......

anyway ok lets go with wat u say .... lets be on the look out which u really cant be viruses are all around the environment....and worry that it will spread to australia and we all die .... the end...........
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #50 on: May 08, 2009, 08:52:27 pm »
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a week behind wat so now its 50 dead? .... yes new viruses are potentially deadly but i believe this virus has been way exaggerated by media......

anyway ok lets go with wat u say .... lets be on the look out which u really cant be viruses are all around the environment....and worry that it will spread to australia and we all die .... the end...........

Viruses are everywhere, but these are viruses we've encountered before, they are not of too much harm, because most of us have already built certain levels of immunity to those.

When you encounter new viruses that we have not seen before, the body does not have any immunity, and the result can be deadly. The virus may only have a small deathcount now, but that does not mean it is not dangerous. Take a look at the Spanish flu in 1918, thought to be an avian influenza that killed a third of the population of Europe.

It is not how many are killed, it's the proportion of death in confirmed cases. Think back to SARS, only ~3000 people died from the outburst, more people die of diarrhea each year than that number. But because of the deadliness of the disease, had it not been contained, the half the world could've perished.

Hence why it's a massive media hype, people need to be aware. And the better controlled the flu is, the better news for us. [However, some thinks that it'll come back as a much more severe flu next flu season... =\]
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #51 on: May 08, 2009, 09:14:07 pm »
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The instance of death isn't particularly high either

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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #52 on: May 08, 2009, 09:27:47 pm »
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The instance of death isn't particularly high either

It was at one point greater than 2%. if it became a world pandemic, and say, half the population was infected, more than 60 million people would die.
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #53 on: May 08, 2009, 11:10:55 pm »
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the 1918 flu was way different then the one right now ... so comparing the two is just pointless
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2009, 12:51:19 am »
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They're quite close actually. They're in the same genus.
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2009, 12:52:23 am »
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different virulence

this strain is more like a normal seasonal flu...
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2009, 01:27:28 am »
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actually, in terms of virulence, it's probably worse than the run-of-the-mill flu (which is still quite deadly, mind you).
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2009, 01:36:56 am »
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i said it was more like , i didnt say it was, yes it is a bit worse but anyway dont stress... i hope you weren't one of those people who bought a surgical mask...
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2009, 01:40:45 am »
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not really, but we did have a discussion on infection control with the family. That's probably more useful than masks.
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Re: H1N1/Mexican flu
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2009, 01:45:03 am »
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lol yeah
if your really interested which you probably aren't go pick up some microbiology books theres a whole stack of info on microbial control and how to disinfect and what works on what and things like that...
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