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Title: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: elysepopplewell on August 01, 2016, 01:55:12 pm
Here is the place to discuss the evils and glories of the Paper One Trial Paper from CSSA!

What was your favourite stimulus for the creative?
How did you go with the unseen texts?
How did you go with the essay?

Please don't write the exam questions here - they are under security until week 5 for illness and misadventure students.

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Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: specclee on August 01, 2016, 02:10:51 pm
Favourite stimulus was probably the first one? The astronaut - flower thing really appealed to my artist side :) All of them were actually not too bad, I'm honestly surprised that they didn't chuck Atwood in there (teachers seem to love Atwood for reading tasks)
I really could've spent my time more wisely: I spent like 50 mins on reading, 40 mins on essay (whilst cutting out all my linking sentences at the end ouch), and 30 mins on my narrative which I had about 100 words to go but didn't finish :(
Hopefully, Paper 2 will be kinder to me...
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Happy Physics Land on August 01, 2016, 02:25:03 pm
Guess its better than the CSSA 2015 Trial Paper 1
Still, it's english
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: lauren_is_anerd on August 01, 2016, 02:31:53 pm
The comprehension completely screwed me but the essay was easy as, so was the creative. Hopefully whoever is marking my paper really likes breakfast food bc comprehension was all waffle lmao
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: HKSMASO6 on August 01, 2016, 02:32:14 pm
Happy physics land did you get 100%
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: RuiAce on August 01, 2016, 02:32:51 pm
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Guess its better than the CSSA 2015 Trial Paper 1
Still, it's english
2015 wasn't too bad I got 40/45
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: specclee on August 01, 2016, 02:37:12 pm
The comprehension completely screwed me but the essay was easy as, so was the creative. Hopefully whoever is marking my paper really likes breakfast food bc comprehension was all waffle lmao
^^made my day honestly (and since trials just started, its been a p bad day)
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: RuiAce on August 01, 2016, 02:41:22 pm
The comprehension completely screwed me but the essay was easy as, so was the creative. Hopefully whoever is marking my paper really likes breakfast food bc comprehension was all waffle lmao
^^made my day honestly (and since trials just started, its been a p bad day)
It should be fine. You'd be surprised as to how easy it is to get marks in section 1 - standard have a history of performing better in section 1 because advanced tend to overcomplicate it.

So long as your waffle was convincing.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: elysepopplewell on August 01, 2016, 02:54:42 pm
The comprehension completely screwed me but the essay was easy as, so was the creative. Hopefully whoever is marking my paper really likes breakfast food bc comprehension was all waffle lmao

That's actually hilarious, I just laughed out loud hahaha
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: elysepopplewell on August 01, 2016, 02:56:30 pm
Favourite stimulus was probably the first one? The astronaut - flower thing really appealed to my artist side :) All of them were actually not too bad, I'm honestly surprised that they didn't chuck Atwood in there (teachers seem to love Atwood for reading tasks)
I really could've spent my time more wisely: I spent like 50 mins on reading, 40 mins on essay (whilst cutting out all my linking sentences at the end ouch), and 30 mins on my narrative which I had about 100 words to go but didn't finish :(
Hopefully, Paper 2 will be kinder to me...

I saw that stimulus and I was like "what the flip!?" I'm glad you got something out of it!

yes, they do love Atwood. I think it is because her work is short, but jam packed with stuff to analyse.
Good luck for Paper 2!
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: cmbarnes on August 01, 2016, 03:03:26 pm
I think I managed my time pretty well, I did my creative first and spent 35 minutes basically regurgitating my prepared response as it was really relevant to the question (thank God!!), I then spent 45 minutes doing the same with my essay (I really lucked out with the questions), but the last 40 minutes on the unseen texts were a killer. I found the texts really difficult to comprehend, especially under timed conditions. The last text was particularly strenuous to analyse, hoping I made up the marks in Section II and III.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: jamonwindeyer on August 01, 2016, 03:29:33 pm
The comprehension completely screwed me but the essay was easy as, so was the creative. Hopefully whoever is marking my paper really likes breakfast food bc comprehension was all waffle lmao

Welcome to the forums Lauren! Great pun, made my day  ;)
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: RuiAce on August 01, 2016, 03:32:07 pm
Welcome to the forums Lauren! Great pun, made my day  ;)
That went over my head until I saw this post. Thanks Jamon hahaha
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: elysepopplewell on August 01, 2016, 03:52:37 pm
I think I managed my time pretty well, I did my creative first and spent 35 minutes basically regurgitating my prepared response as it was really relevant to the question (thank God!!), I then spent 45 minutes doing the same with my essay (I really lucked out with the questions), but the last 40 minutes on the unseen texts were a killer. I found the texts really difficult to comprehend, especially under timed conditions. The last text was particularly strenuous to analyse, hoping I made up the marks in Section II and III.

So glad that your prepared response worked! How did you spend your reading time? Planning your responses or reading the unseen texts?
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: willy-boy on August 01, 2016, 04:14:10 pm
Creative was very kind, and essay would have been to if I was a little more prepared (khe sara hey?). I actually didn't mind comprehension, but that's an unpopular opinion.

In terms of the essay, did anyone else feel that there may have been a hook in terms of the wording. Can't remember it exactly but there was some terminology that gave me pause.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on August 01, 2016, 04:39:33 pm
Creative really threw me because i was expecting a picture. I had trouble connecting my half pre-prepared response to just 1 stimuli as it spanned over multiple. So i hope i didnt stuff that one up  :-\

Essay was a gift  ;D Went really well with 3 of gray's coast road poems, went amazingly with my related text but feel like I couldve written more analysis and less digressions..

Unseen texts were surprisingly easy except one of them (3 or 4?) where i either nailed it or completely misintrepreted it.

I completed Section I in 35 minutes, Section II in 35 minutes and Section III in 49 3/4 mins :P I was so close to not finishing that the examiner malpractice woman (Lol, i cant remember her title) had to supervise me while i wrote my number, course, booklets used and booklet number on each of the 5 booklets...

During the page by page analysis I flicked to the creative (bleach please!) and essay (yes!)
Then while I had to 'sit quietly' for Eng Studies PPA, i thought about how i could possibly work this creative. During my reading time, I.. well.. read. Lol  ;D the texts were easy enough i think i just overanalysed (4 pages?)

What texts did everyone do for the final question? I did 2 and 4 but it seems that was an unpopular choice haha
Best of luck for tomorrow everyone!!
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: sudodds on August 01, 2016, 05:06:09 pm
I managed to get my entire creative out in 36 minutes!!! The entire 1300 words!! That is really all I care about in this exam hahaha.

Essay was good, the question was very similar to one we got for an assessment task at the beginning of the year so that was good. Did anyone else find the last unseen text really difficult to relate to discovery?? Idk, I think comprehension is going to be my worst section hahaha...  :P

Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: sudodds on August 01, 2016, 05:10:21 pm
Creative really threw me because i was expecting a picture. I had trouble connecting my half pre-prepared response to just 1 stimuli as it spanned over multiple. So i hope i didnt stuff that one up  :-\

Yeah I agree they were weird, both broad and oddly specific at the same time if that makes sense. Like if your creative was within one of their boundaries then you were sweet, but if not then it was pretty difficult to relate them. I spent most of the time writing it thinking I was going to relate it to c, and then right at the end changed to d.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Klexos on August 01, 2016, 05:21:25 pm
I actually don't know if I did the same paper as you guys. BUT FUCK MY CREATIVE, I WROTE SOME SOLID 2 PAGES OF BAND 1-NESS.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on August 01, 2016, 05:21:37 pm
Yeah I agree they were weird, both broad and oddly specific at the same time if that makes sense. Like if your creative was within one of their boundaries then you were sweet, but if not then it was pretty difficult to relate them. I spent most of the time writing it thinking I was going to relate it to c, and then right at the end changed to d.

Lol i think throughout my creative i referred to a, c and d ;D i just wonder which one is strongest? Hopefully theyll only see one link and not three otherwise that could be bad news for me  :-\

I actually don't know if I did the same paper as you guys. BUT FUCK MY CREATIVE, I WROTE SOME SOLID 2 PAGES OF BAND 1-NESS.

Omg i can totally relate to this except i wrote 3 pages of Band 1-ness!!!!
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: sudodds on August 01, 2016, 05:24:13 pm
Lol i think throughout my creative i referred to a, c and d ;D i just wonder which one is strongest? Hopefully theyll only see one link and not three otherwise that could be bad news for me  :-\


Ah did you not have to write which stimulus you were using at the top of the page? We did so I couldn't really get away with doing a little bit of all of them :(
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on August 01, 2016, 05:25:51 pm
Ah did you not have to write which stimulus you were using at the top of the page? We did so I couldn't really get away with doing a little bit of all of them :(

We didnt, or at least they didnt tell us to.. Hopefully i didnt otherwise i am really screwed!! At least i have general manager at maccas to look forward to ;D ;D ;D :P
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Klexos on August 01, 2016, 05:26:21 pm
Lol i think throughout my creative i referred to a, c and d ;D i just wonder which one is strongest? Hopefully theyll only see one link and not three otherwise that could be bad news for me  :-\

Omg i can totally relate to this except i wrote 3 pages of Band 1-ness!!!!

My creative was tragic. I'm actually not going to be surprised if I get below 10/15 with 10/15 being a hopeful expectation. I did kill it in my essay and I would say I was decent at short answers BUT CREATIVEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on August 01, 2016, 05:30:32 pm
My creative was tragic. I'm actually not going to be surprised if I get below 10/15 with 10/15 being a hopeful expectation. I did kill it in my essay and I would say I was decent at short answers BUT CREATIVEEEEEEEE
Lol, i will be lucky to get 7 on my creative!! So many cliches and it was like i was writing two creatives, the one that constantly linked to the stimulus and my pre-prepared response!
 :( See you at centrelink..  :P
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Klexos on August 01, 2016, 05:46:08 pm
Lol, i will be lucky to get 7 on my creative!! So many cliches and it was like i was writing two creatives, the one that constantly linked to the stimulus and my pre-prepared response!
 :( See you at centrelink..  :P

Sorry :,( My creative might've been bad, but not bad enough to ruin my whole year and put me in Centrelink
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: RuiAce on August 01, 2016, 05:52:48 pm
Now I'm kinda curious as to what the questions were
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: willy-boy on August 01, 2016, 06:05:23 pm
The questions were stupid, that's what they were. Hopefully Paper 2 is a kinder mistress
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: RuiAce on August 01, 2016, 06:17:57 pm
The questions were stupid, that's what they were. Hopefully Paper 2 is a kinder mistress
Everyone complained about Sarah Polley last year and I still got a higher number in paper 1 than paper 2. So who knows.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: marynguyen18 on August 01, 2016, 06:35:22 pm
i liked the first unseen text but i didn't understand the rest of them, for my creative writing i kinda changed it to fit the stimulus ended up doing it like a diary entry format instead of a short story. For my AOS section i actually liked it i was able to remember the quotes i needed (not all but most of them). My time management was decent somehow managed to finish 10 minutes before the exam ended.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: elysepopplewell on August 01, 2016, 06:59:44 pm
I managed to get my entire creative out in 36 minutes!!! The entire 1300 words!!

I think you have a record! Adrenaline does amazing things.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: elysepopplewell on August 01, 2016, 07:01:51 pm
My creative was tragic. I'm actually not going to be surprised if I get below 10/15 with 10/15 being a hopeful expectation. I did kill it in my essay and I would say I was decent at short answers BUT CREATIVEEEEEEEE

Did you go in with a prepared response that didn't fit the stimulus, or did you try to make it up as you went and things didn't go so well?

Sending good Paper Two vibes your way!!
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: sudodds on August 01, 2016, 07:03:01 pm
I think you have a record! Adrenaline does amazing things.

Hahaha considering my average for 40 minutes is 1000 words, you could say that I am more than surprised! Hopefully I can keep that up tomorrow, though with the essays I know it will take me a lot longer even though technically they are shorter :/
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on August 01, 2016, 07:48:45 pm
Any last minute paper 2 tips?

What module should we tackle first? Should we plan for 15 minutes at the start for all 3 and then use the remainding time writing, or do them one at a time?

Any advice is appreciated :D
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: RuiAce on August 01, 2016, 08:22:05 pm
Any last minute paper 2 tips?

What module should we tackle first? Should we plan for 15 minutes at the start for all 3 and then use the remainding time writing, or do them one at a time?

Any advice is appreciated :D
I personally planned each at a time. So in each 40min block I spent 5min planning at the start.

Might not be what works for you but idk
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: jamonwindeyer on August 01, 2016, 08:26:47 pm
Any last minute paper 2 tips?

What module should we tackle first? Should we plan for 15 minutes at the start for all 3 and then use the remainding time writing, or do them one at a time?

Any advice is appreciated :D

I personally wrote for at least 1 hr 55 minutes out of the 2 hours, plan mentally in your reading time and briefly at the start ;D  keep linking to the question, remember to have a technique with every quote, and go to the bathroom before you go in, you don't want to lose ANY time in this one  ;D
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: RuiAce on August 01, 2016, 08:29:26 pm
I personally wrote for at least 1 hr 55 minutes out of the 2 hours, plan mentally in your reading time and briefly at the start ;D  keep linking to the question, remember to have a technique with every quote, and go to the bathroom before you go in, you don't want to lose ANY time in this one  ;D
Hmm.

Well I didn't spend 5 min planning either per se. I just wrote out my quotes and tried to figure out how I'd argue the question - agree or disagree, to what extent blah blah blah and so on forth. That probably took 1.5-2.5min per essay

Edit: Ohh this is my 888th post :D this is meant to be good luck in Chinese culture for me
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on August 02, 2016, 04:50:27 pm
Hmm.

Well I didn't spend 5 min planning either per se. I just wrote out my quotes and tried to figure out how I'd argue the question - agree or disagree, to what extent blah blah blah and so on forth. That probably took 1.5-2.5min per essay

Edit: Ohh this is my 888th post :D this is meant to be good luck in Chinese culture for me
I certainly did not spend 5 mins on each planning. I planned all three at once (is that bad?) and maybe spent up to 10 minutes all together.
Then I started Module B as that was the most challenging one before realising that Mod A was equally as hard (anyone that does richard should understand)

Finished my conclusion for Art of Travel with maybe 15 seconds to go if the clock i was looking at was accurate. Certainly felt like less :)

Luckily my bladder held because i didnt have anytime to even think about it! ;D
At least its all over now for English until the HSC 👍🏼👍🏼
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Klexos on August 03, 2016, 10:46:38 am
Did you go in with a prepared response that didn't fit the stimulus, or did you try to make it up as you went and things didn't go so well?

Sending good Paper Two vibes your way!!

I had one prepared but I also practised writing on the spot. I would say it was a combination of both, my concept was the complete opposite to the happiness they wanted and I couldn't click with the stimulus at all. (I also don't know if I did the CSSA paper but...yeah)
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: caitie145 on August 04, 2016, 04:44:10 pm
sorry if this sounds stupid but what is the CSSA trial paper?? do all schools use it?
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: RuiAce on August 04, 2016, 05:59:58 pm
sorry if this sounds stupid but what is the CSSA trial paper?? do all schools use it?
Just Google CSSA trials

It stands for Catholic Secondary School Association I think
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: sudodds on August 04, 2016, 06:04:01 pm
sorry if this sounds stupid but what is the CSSA trial paper?? do all schools use it?

Its a trial paper that a lot of catholic schools (and maybe independent though I'm not sure) use :) (not smily face actually because they're known for being pretty tricky but oh well)

The trial examination block for the CSSA began on monday so thats why theres quite a few ppl discussing it
Title: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: RuiAce on August 04, 2016, 06:10:37 pm
Its a trial paper that a lot of catholic schools (and maybe independent though I'm not sure) use :) (not smily face actually because they're known for being pretty tricky but oh well)

The trial examination block for the CSSA began on monday so thats why theres quite a few ppl discussing it
Small opinion on this yeah actually a lot of non-Catholic schools also do CSSA and catholic schools do papers such as independent and etc :o
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Lauradf36 on August 10, 2016, 08:30:57 pm
Comprehension was sweet, creative I spent way too long on but was also sweet, and then essay was rushed and pretty crap... mostly because I was so underprepared  :-\ because the HSC loves us and makes major works due at the same time as trials  :-\
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: sudodds on August 10, 2016, 08:50:25 pm
Comprehension was sweet, creative I spent way too long on but was also sweet, and then essay was rushed and pretty crap... mostly because I was so underprepared  :-\ because the HSC loves us and makes major works due at the same time as trials  :-\

Yay :) I'm sure you did fantastic, even if you're a bit worried about the essay, especially since the essay is only worth 5%. And yeah I know its so annoying BOSTES putting everything at this time, just keep in mind that at least you're not a drama student (well u might be idk hahaha), major works and HSC performances due 1 week after trials :(
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on August 11, 2016, 04:34:30 pm
Comprehension was sweet, creative I spent way too long on but was also sweet, and then essay was rushed and pretty crap... mostly because I was so underprepared  :-\ because the HSC loves us and makes major works due at the same time as trials  :-\

OMG this is so true!! Come out of exams next Tuesday and my Design and Tech is due on the friday. (Not due for everyone else until the thursday after, but because our teacher loves to see us work under pressure its earlier)
Have to finish my folio, print all the stuff off, photocopy and include my sketches, bind it all and have it handed in three days after my trials finish. Wow.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Lauradf36 on August 11, 2016, 07:38:37 pm
OMG this is so true!! Come out of exams next Tuesday and my Design and Tech is due on the friday. (Not due for everyone else until the thursday after, but because our teacher loves to see us work under pressure its earlier)
Have to finish my folio, print all the stuff off, photocopy and include my sketches, bind it all and have it handed in three days after my trials finish. Wow.

As I say. They just love us.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Lauradf36 on August 23, 2016, 04:45:49 pm
Just got paper one back and I did well, but my worst section by far was the comprehension :( The marker said I didn't reference the question enough, but I had tried to interpret it by linking to the rubric statement I thought it was referring to. The 5 marker question I did poorly on as well, as the teacher thought I didn't pick the best two texts (isn't this subjective?!) :(
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: jamonwindeyer on August 23, 2016, 08:03:02 pm
Just got paper one back and I did well, but my worst section by far was the comprehension :( The marker said I didn't reference the question enough, but I had tried to interpret it by linking to the rubric statement I thought it was referring to. The 5 marker question I did poorly on as well, as the teacher thought I didn't pick the best two texts (isn't this subjective?!) :(

Good job on the Paper Laura! Don't stress about comprehension, you'll do better next time! ;D

With the "picking the best texts" thing; in comprehension you do need to keep two things in mind when picking texts (this goes for ORT's too actually):

1- How well the two texts fit together conceptually (EG - You wouldn't discuss Finding Nemo and Julius Caesar in the same response, because there is very little joining them together (I challenge someone to give me a Thesis linking those two texts) ;)

2- The depth of the text, referring to the amount and variety of techniques that can be analysed. Analysing an image, for example, usually isn't as effective a choice as analysing a short story or poem, where there is likely to be more to analyse

I can't speak for your teacher, but perhaps these were some things they had in mind when they suggested an issue with text choice? :)
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Lauradf36 on August 23, 2016, 08:50:06 pm
Good job on the Paper Laura! Don't stress about comprehension, you'll do better next time! ;D

With the "picking the best texts" thing; in comprehension you do need to keep two things in mind when picking texts (this goes for ORT's too actually):

1- How well the two texts fit together conceptually (EG - You wouldn't discuss Finding Nemo and Julius Caesar in the same response, because there is very little joining them together (I challenge someone to give me a Thesis linking those two texts) ;)

2- The depth of the text, referring to the amount and variety of techniques that can be analysed. Analysing an image, for example, usually isn't as effective a choice as analysing a short story or poem, where there is likely to be more to analyse

I can't speak for your teacher, but perhaps these were some things they had in mind when they suggested an issue with text choice? :)

My thoughts precisely, but they said the first text (an image) fitted better with "new worlds"... which in hindsight is clearer, but in that short space of time it's so hard to think logically :/
Anyway, lots more practise of discovery comprehension to be done! Wish there was more practise papers is the only problem.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: ssarahj on August 23, 2016, 08:50:39 pm
(EG - You wouldn't discuss Finding Nemo and Julius Caesar in the same response, because there is very little joining them together (I challenge someone to give me a Thesis linking those two texts) ;)

BOOM
The intricate nature of relationships and trust is explored in William Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar and Andrew Stanton’s Finding Nemo in which both composers demonstrate the far-reaching consequences of betrayal and forgiveness.

Spoiler
yes I had to look up the director of Finding Nemo and yes I definitely have an essay plan to accompany this and yes this was a complete waste of my time
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: ssarahj on August 23, 2016, 08:58:23 pm
My thoughts precisely, but they said the first text (an image) fitted better with "new worlds"... which in hindsight is clearer, but in that short space of time it's so hard to think logically :/
Anyway, lots more practise of discovery comprehension to be done! Wish there was more practise papers is the only problem.

Make sure when you're doing the actual HSC that you pick the two texts that you actually UNDERSTAND the most. There's no point picking the weird poem (if you have absolutely no idea what its harping on about) in an attempt to sound smart and sophisticated. Under exam pressure its always better to go with the texts you're most confident with because they're the ones you'll be able to analyse properly and hopefully make more insightful statements about discovery in relation to the question.

There's a few extra Discovery papers on this website: https://thsconline.github.io/s/yr12/
But if you run out: try and pester your teacher for more papers/practises before you leave school so you're stocked up for the study period. I've heard you can use the old Belonging papers and just change the words to Discovery but I'm sceptical about this so I haven't tried it yet.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: sudodds on August 23, 2016, 09:01:49 pm
I've heard you can use the old Belonging papers and just change the words to Discovery but I'm sceptical about this so I haven't tried it yet.
We've been doing that at school and its been working pretty well actually, tbh a lot of the texts seem to work better for discovery than I think they would have for belonging or journey :)
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: ssarahj on August 23, 2016, 09:03:48 pm
We've been doing that at school and its been working pretty well actually, tbh a lot of the texts seem to work better for discovery than I think they would have for belonging or journey :)

That's awesome, I'll definitely have to give it a go now! 
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: RuiAce on August 23, 2016, 09:07:21 pm
It's because you can argue how discovery is present through an individual's sense of belonging.

I had a personal hate towards it. It actually works for a lot of people.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: jamonwindeyer on August 23, 2016, 10:47:18 pm
It's because you can argue how discovery is present through an individual's sense of belonging.

I had a personal hate towards it. It actually works for a lot of people.

That argument sounds gross ;) but yes doing old AoS papers generally works really well to assist with regular study!!

BOOM
The intricate nature of relationships and trust is explored in William Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar and Andrew Stanton’s Finding Nemo in which both composers demonstrate the far-reaching consequences of betrayal and forgiveness.

Spoiler
yes I had to look up the director of Finding Nemo and yes I definitely have an essay plan to accompany this and yes this was a complete waste of my time

You are an absolute legend! ;)

Spoiler
A "make a Thesis for these two completely unrelated text" thread is a must for the near future I believe ;)
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Lauradf36 on August 24, 2016, 12:14:12 am
There's a few extra Discovery papers on this website: https://thsconline.github.io/s/yr12/
But if you run out: try and pester your teacher for more papers/practises before you leave school so you're stocked up for the study period. I've heard you can use the old Belonging papers and just change the words to Discovery but I'm sceptical about this so I haven't tried it yet.

Oh thanks! I also found this site has a few http://discoveryhshs.weebly.com/practice-exams.html
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: RuiAce on August 24, 2016, 08:50:57 am
That argument sounds gross ;) but yes doing old AoS papers generally works really well to assist with regular study!!

You are an absolute legend! ;)

Spoiler
A "make a Thesis for these two completely unrelated text" thread is a must for the near future I believe ;)
I actually couldn't stand interrelating belonging and discovery so I never did that haha
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on August 27, 2016, 07:25:01 am
1- How well the two texts fit together conceptually (EG - You wouldn't discuss Finding Nemo and Julius Caesar in the same response, because there is very little joining them together (I challenge someone to give me a Thesis linking those two texts) ;)

Challenge Accepted!! :D

While Julius Caesar and Finding Nemo both made an impressive impact on the human body, they are both products of different times and are now both dead. ;D
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: kevinboy328 on August 30, 2016, 11:16:32 pm
Was quite straightfoward and easy i guess
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: jamonwindeyer on August 30, 2016, 11:24:51 pm
Was quite straightfoward and easy i guess

Welcome to the forums Kevin! Let me know if you need help finding anything ;D
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on August 31, 2016, 08:01:39 pm
What was everyones marks for paper 1?

I got 13/15 in both the Creative and the essay (thanks elyse and jamon :P) but only 9/15 in short answers (dont ask)
Overall, happy with the 2 A's in the harder section, just fell flat on my face for the short answers.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: elysepopplewell on August 31, 2016, 08:13:23 pm
What was everyones marks for paper 1?

I got 13/15 in both the Creative and the essay (thanks elyse and jamon :P) but only 9/15 in short answers (dont ask)
Overall, happy with the 2 A's in the harder section, just fell flat on my face for the short answers.

What do you think happened in the short answers? Did you do them first or last or?
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on August 31, 2016, 08:17:25 pm
What do you think happened in the short answers? Did you do them first or last or?

Well i followed the advice of many and ran the paper back to front, you know the constant themes.. The only text I got full marks for was Text 2 (2/2) Got 0/2 for Text 1 (oops) and 2/3 for Text 3 and 4. 3/5 using Texts 2 and 4 (should i have done these texts??)
I failed to address the question apparently, but I am not sure how because I thought I did? Maybe a run down of this would be beneficial :)

Ps. Is it true you get 1 mark in a creative short story just for having a title?
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: jamonwindeyer on August 31, 2016, 08:28:35 pm
Ps. Is it true you get 1 mark in a creative short story just for having a title?

Don't quote me, but I doubt it. It would probably still count as a non-attempt :P
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: elysepopplewell on August 31, 2016, 08:35:30 pm
Well i followed the advice of many and ran the paper back to front, you know the constant themes.. The only text I got full marks for was Text 2 (2/2) Got 0/2 for Text 1 (oops) and 2/3 for Text 3 and 4. 3/5 using Texts 2 and 4 (should i have done these texts??)
I failed to address the question apparently, but I am not sure how because I thought I did? Maybe a run down of this would be beneficial :)
Ahh! I always read the texts in the reading time and moved straight through to them for the first part of the exam. Would you consider that next time?

Ps. Is it true you get 1 mark in a creative short story just for having a title?

Nope! It would be an unequal way of gaining marks if you choose not to do a short story, and rather a speech. There is no requirement for a title.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on August 31, 2016, 09:13:50 pm
Ahh! I always read the texts in the reading time and moved straight through to them for the first part of the exam. Would you consider that next time?

Nope! It would be an unequal way of gaining marks if you choose not to do a short story, and rather a speech. There is no requirement for a title.
Thats what I did during my Paper 1, read them in reading time and then moved straight onto them.

Good to hear that as well! Because i heard that and i was like nah that cant possibly be right!

Thanks!
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Lauradf36 on August 31, 2016, 11:47:11 pm
What was everyones marks for paper 1?

I got 13/15 in both the Creative and the essay (thanks elyse and jamon :P) but only 9/15 in short answers (dont ask)
Overall, happy with the 2 A's in the harder section, just fell flat on my face for the short answers.

don't worry, I did crap at short answers too... got 15/15 for essay and creative, but 10/15 for short answers :(
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: jamonwindeyer on September 01, 2016, 12:09:40 am
don't worry, I did crap at short answers too... got 15/15 for essay and creative, but 10/15 for short answers :(

15/15? DAYUUM  you weren't kidding when you said you did well, well done!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: zachary99 on September 01, 2016, 10:30:42 pm
Absolutely cheering with my mark
Short answers 14/15 :D ........i loved the first text! (picture)
Creative 14/15 <----< now that was a miracle
Essay 15/15

Overall 43/45 :D :D
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Lauradf36 on September 01, 2016, 10:57:55 pm
Absolutely cheering with my mark
Short answers 14/15 :D ........i loved the first text! (picture)
Creative 14/15 <----< now that was a miracle
Essay 15/15

Overall 43/45 :D :D

DAMNNNNN you nailed it!! Short answer tips??
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: jamonwindeyer on September 01, 2016, 11:56:59 pm
Absolutely cheering with my mark
Short answers 14/15 :D ........i loved the first text! (picture)
Creative 14/15 <----< now that was a miracle
Essay 15/15

Overall 43/45 :D :D

Killing it!! Bravo!! ;D
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: elysepopplewell on September 02, 2016, 09:19:26 am
Absolutely cheering with my mark
Short answers 14/15 :D ........i loved the first text! (picture)
Creative 14/15 <----< now that was a miracle
Essay 15/15

Overall 43/45 :D :D

Please share your unseen text wisdom!
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on September 02, 2016, 05:11:14 pm
Please share your unseen text wisdom!
Second this!! Sharing is caring!!

But tbh my 13 for creative was a miracle. Dont know what they mustve been smoking/drinking before to give my shocking creative an A ;D
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: zachary99 on September 02, 2016, 10:03:47 pm
Thanks for the compliments!!
I dont have any magic trick to the unseen texts, but my teacher (who has like 25 years experience) has just drilled into my head its all about the HOW......so techniques, techniques, techniques!!!! During the reading time i quickly read over the unseen texts just to get a feel for them.
I always look at the question before looking at a new unseen text just so i know what i am looking for. During the actual exam, i just circle every technique i come across as i skim through the short story/poem/song/whatever. From there its quite simple, each sentence (2 markers) or second sentence (3 markers) should have a new technique in it, and somehow link it back to the question!!!  :D :D ........well thats roughly what i do anyway

Oh, i also do the paper in order for the record.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: Lauradf36 on September 02, 2016, 10:08:48 pm
Thanks for the compliments!!
I dont have any magic trick to the unseen texts, but my teacher (who has like 25 years experience) has just drilled into my head its all about the HOW......so techniques, techniques, techniques!!!! During the reading time i quickly read over the unseen texts just to get a feel for them.
I always look at the question before looking at a new unseen text just so i know what i am looking for. During the actual exam, i just circle every technique i come across as i skim through the short story/poem/song/whatever. From there its quite simple, each sentence (2 markers) or second sentence (3 markers) should have a new technique in it, and somehow link it back to the question!!!  :D :D ........well thats roughly what i do anyway

Oh, i also do the paper in order for the record.

That's awesome! Also, in order ftw!
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on September 03, 2016, 07:39:39 am
Thanks for the compliments!!
I dont have any magic trick to the unseen texts, but my teacher (who has like 25 years experience) has just drilled into my head its all about the HOW......so techniques, techniques, techniques!!!! During the reading time i quickly read over the unseen texts just to get a feel for them.
I always look at the question before looking at a new unseen text just so i know what i am looking for. During the actual exam, i just circle every technique i come across as i skim through the short story/poem/song/whatever. From there its quite simple, each sentence (2 markers) or second sentence (3 markers) should have a new technique in it, and somehow link it back to the question!!!  :D :D ........well thats roughly what i do anyway

Oh, i also do the paper in order for the record.

That's awesome! Also, in order ftw!

This is such a comprehensive yet succinct guide for short answers!! I always am great at picking up techniques but can never link it back to the question well enough.. Do I just use the terminology of the question as my last sentence saying something like "this effectively explores the notion of unexpected discoveries" (if the question was "explain how text 1 emphasises that discoveries can be unexpected")

Or something different entirely? Im also one for doing this paper from cover to cover (only exam i do so :P) simply because there is a theme for every paper and this is best picked up in the "warm up" short answers.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: kevinboy328 on September 03, 2016, 12:14:35 pm
Was all ok
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: zachary99 on September 09, 2016, 05:37:45 pm
This is such a comprehensive yet succinct guide for short answers!! I always am great at picking up techniques but can never link it back to the question well enough.. Do I just use the terminology of the question as my last sentence saying something like "this effectively explores the notion of unexpected discoveries" (if the question was "explain how text 1 emphasises that discoveries can be unexpected")

Or something different entirely? Im also one for doing this paper from cover to cover (only exam i do so :P) simply because there is a theme for every paper and this is best picked up in the "warm up" short answers.

As an example, here was my answer for question 1 which is scored 2/2 for:
Text one suggests that discoveries can lead to sudden and unexpected new worlds. The colour of the pink rose acts as a salient image which attracts viewer attention and represents the natural beauty of discovering space. The positioning of the flowers in the centre of the picture emphasizes the significance of discovering unexpected new worlds. The juxtaposition of the vibrant pink flowers against the dark space further represents the life giving nature and passion that surrounds discovery.

Hope that helps
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: elysepopplewell on September 11, 2016, 11:28:06 am
As an example, here was my answer for question 1 which is scored 2/2 for:
Text one suggests that discoveries can lead to sudden and unexpected new worlds. The colour of the pink rose acts as a salient image which attracts viewer attention and represents the natural beauty of discovering space. The positioning of the flowers in the centre of the picture emphasizes the significance of discovering unexpected new worlds. The juxtaposition of the vibrant pink flowers against the dark space further represents the life giving nature and passion that surrounds discovery.

Hope that helps

Spot on! I can imagine you got full marks for that one. You've done exactly what needs to be done: you've taken on discovery, and you've taken it on with techniques. That's exactly what is required of you.
Title: Re: CSSA Trial Paper One 2016
Post by: studybuddy7777 on September 20, 2016, 12:05:13 pm
As an example, here was my answer for question 1 which is scored 2/2 for:
Text one suggests that discoveries can lead to sudden and unexpected new worlds. The colour of the pink rose acts as a salient image which attracts viewer attention and represents the natural beauty of discovering space. The positioning of the flowers in the centre of the picture emphasizes the significance of discovering unexpected new worlds. The juxtaposition of the vibrant pink flowers against the dark space further represents the life giving nature and passion that surrounds discovery.

Hope that helps

Ive only just seen this now but yes this helps majorly! Thanks for that!