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Title: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: fuzzylogic on January 08, 2012, 12:41:48 pm
Okay, so I couldn't think of a better title for this topic...but today I was at my dad's shop and two guys were waiting for haircuts and talking about girls and I totaaalllly wasn't eavesdropping but one goes verbatim "nah bro, I like her, but couldn't possibly ask her out, she got a higher atar than me.  not cool." 
 Left me awestruck and also reminded me of what my (curry) mother always says about a lot of men (while she was growing up) not wanting to marry a girl who's more qualified/had higher education/done better in uni than them....what do people think?   Just thought it might be an interesting topic for discussion...
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: aes_999 on January 08, 2012, 12:55:28 pm
Most people don't really ask about ATAR scores
when they're in uni.  :)

But yeah, ur mum is spot on.
Guys can sometimes have a complex about
not wanting to marry someone who's more qualified
or has a higher education than them.
Makes them feel inferior in the household.
But that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: ShortBlackChick on January 08, 2012, 01:14:54 pm
LOL Anyone remember last time?
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: fuzzylogic on January 08, 2012, 01:18:01 pm
LOL Anyone remember last time?
what happened last time?
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Zafaraaaa on January 08, 2012, 01:20:53 pm
OMG that is exactly what my mum says as well! LOL I think to some extent it may be true...I've seen some guys (like family friends) who get intimidated if their potential wife is like a doctor or something (while they're not) - sometimes to the extent of not even marrying them! :O So unfair, I know, but I think most guys (but not all) just want to feel more superior on academic terms, since they're (usually) the main earners of the household
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: enwiabe on January 08, 2012, 01:41:30 pm
LOL Anyone remember last time?

I'm handing out bans if the discussion heads that way again.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: EvangelionZeta on January 08, 2012, 01:51:33 pm
I can imagine a lot of people having inferiority complex issues - I think gender shouldn't (and hopefully eventually won't) come into play though.  (:

Also, ignoring VCE, I  think it's probably healthier in a relationship if the couple isn't in direct competition with one another in an academic/professional sense.  I've heard of med couples where gradually, the boyfriend/girlfriend have developed a complex of needing to keep up with, or even beat the other person in the relationship. 

With VCE, I think the ATAR shouldn't really matter, although I can imagine it might hurt if you were doing all the same subjects and the other person was just better (gender aside).  nisha's right on the money.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Special At Specialist on January 08, 2012, 02:08:59 pm
I hear about heaps of people not wanting to marry people of a lower class/academic level than them, but I never hear about people not wanting to "move up" so to speak.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: fuzzylogic on January 08, 2012, 02:11:04 pm
I can imagine a lot of people having inferiority complex issues - I think gender shouldn't (and hopefully eventually won't) come into play though.  (:

Also, ignoring VCE, I  think it's probably healthier in a relationship if the couple isn't in direct competition with one another in an academic/professional sense.  I've heard of med couples where gradually, the boyfriend/girlfriend have developed a complex of needing to keep up with, or even beat the other person in the relationship. 

With VCE, I think the ATAR shouldn't really matter, although I can imagine it might hurt if you were doing all the same subjects and the other person was just better (gender aside).  nisha's right on the money.

I wholly agree that gender shouldn't and hopefully won't come into play.  However, like zafaraaa I've seen too many guy family friends break up with fiancees/wives/girlfriends who have decided to pursue higher education etc, yet haven't seen many...or any girls feel 'inferior' when their partners have done the same.  Also, the other day my aunt told her daughter not to  bother doing a masters because it would 'hinder chances of getting a husband'.  :|
Of course, not saying that this is always the case, as I've also seen some very supportive and wholesome relationships.   
maybe it is the whole historically men have been breadwinners, or the ones who got educated and thus 'superior'...a notion that wouldn't exist in an ideal world lol...I guess it just worries me and my inner feminist when I hear people of our generation and our age making such comments.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: abd123 on January 08, 2012, 02:14:11 pm
This is more of an Arabian and Asian Culture, right? Womens won't have as much right as men do within the Arabian/Asian culture. For example in Saudi Arabia womens can't drive cars, only their husbands or partner or a male sibling could do the driving for them, its quite restrictive as oppose to the western culture. Females under those cultures are taught to be very submissive to their male counterparts and to not blow their ego's away.

As for a male worrying about their female counterparts being a lot more qualified than they are then there egos will be blown away and destroyed. We all know that men have bigger ego's than women's and the ego men have are very sensitive as oppose to their female counterparts, and your mum is right about 'men not being with a female partner that are a lot more qualified than they are'.

Don't worry about it to much :), your living in a western society, so women in western cultures have way more rights than the womens that are in ethnic cultures or different backgrounds, and that are living outside of e.g. Aus, Nz, UK, USA and Canada-Western areas. You may have encountered with those 'guys whom wish to supress an independant womens life'-those guys are equivalent to being a complete jerk, but dont worry about it there will be great guys out there that wants to be with you, it wouldn't matter if there qualified as you or not thats only if they are truly in love with you
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: EvangelionZeta on January 08, 2012, 02:18:43 pm
I can imagine a lot of people having inferiority complex issues - I think gender shouldn't (and hopefully eventually won't) come into play though.  (:

Also, ignoring VCE, I  think it's probably healthier in a relationship if the couple isn't in direct competition with one another in an academic/professional sense.  I've heard of med couples where gradually, the boyfriend/girlfriend have developed a complex of needing to keep up with, or even beat the other person in the relationship. 

With VCE, I think the ATAR shouldn't really matter, although I can imagine it might hurt if you were doing all the same subjects and the other person was just better (gender aside).  nisha's right on the money.

I wholly agree that gender shouldn't and hopefully won't come into play.  However, like zafaraaa I've seen too many guy family friends break up with fiancees/wives/girlfriends who have decided to pursue higher education etc, yet haven't seen many...or any girls feel 'inferior' when their partners have done the same.  Also, the other day my aunt told her daughter not to  bother doing a masters because it would 'hinder chances of getting a husband'.  :|
Of course, not saying that this is always the case, as I've also seen some very supportive and wholesome relationships.   
maybe it is the whole historically men have been breadwinners, or the ones who got educated and thus 'superior'...a notion that wouldn't exist in an ideal world lol...I guess it just worries me and my inner feminist when I hear people of our generation and our age making such comments.

Social progression darling, social progression.  We just need to keep the feminist movement alive, and relevant (and not overzealous and/or misinterpreted, urgh).
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: fuzzylogic on January 08, 2012, 02:20:24 pm
I can imagine a lot of people having inferiority complex issues - I think gender shouldn't (and hopefully eventually won't) come into play though.  (:

Also, ignoring VCE, I  think it's probably healthier in a relationship if the couple isn't in direct competition with one another in an academic/professional sense.  I've heard of med couples where gradually, the boyfriend/girlfriend have developed a complex of needing to keep up with, or even beat the other person in the relationship. 

With VCE, I think the ATAR shouldn't really matter, although I can imagine it might hurt if you were doing all the same subjects and the other person was just better (gender aside).  nisha's right on the money.

I wholly agree that gender shouldn't and hopefully won't come into play.  However, like zafaraaa I've seen too many guy family friends break up with fiancees/wives/girlfriends who have decided to pursue higher education etc, yet haven't seen many...or any girls feel 'inferior' when their partners have done the same.  Also, the other day my aunt told her daughter not to  bother doing a masters because it would 'hinder chances of getting a husband'.  :|
Of course, not saying that this is always the case, as I've also seen some very supportive and wholesome relationships.   
maybe it is the whole historically men have been breadwinners, or the ones who got educated and thus 'superior'...a notion that wouldn't exist in an ideal world lol...I guess it just worries me and my inner feminist when I hear people of our generation and our age making such comments.

Social progression darling, social progression.  We just need to keep the feminist movement alive, and relevant (and not overzealous and/or misinterpreted, urgh).

why is social progression so slow, darling, why so slow?   :P
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: EvangelionZeta on January 08, 2012, 02:31:37 pm
I can imagine a lot of people having inferiority complex issues - I think gender shouldn't (and hopefully eventually won't) come into play though.  (:

Also, ignoring VCE, I  think it's probably healthier in a relationship if the couple isn't in direct competition with one another in an academic/professional sense.  I've heard of med couples where gradually, the boyfriend/girlfriend have developed a complex of needing to keep up with, or even beat the other person in the relationship. 

With VCE, I think the ATAR shouldn't really matter, although I can imagine it might hurt if you were doing all the same subjects and the other person was just better (gender aside).  nisha's right on the money.

I wholly agree that gender shouldn't and hopefully won't come into play.  However, like zafaraaa I've seen too many guy family friends break up with fiancees/wives/girlfriends who have decided to pursue higher education etc, yet haven't seen many...or any girls feel 'inferior' when their partners have done the same.  Also, the other day my aunt told her daughter not to  bother doing a masters because it would 'hinder chances of getting a husband'.  :|
Of course, not saying that this is always the case, as I've also seen some very supportive and wholesome relationships.   
maybe it is the whole historically men have been breadwinners, or the ones who got educated and thus 'superior'...a notion that wouldn't exist in an ideal world lol...I guess it just worries me and my inner feminist when I hear people of our generation and our age making such comments.

Social progression darling, social progression.  We just need to keep the feminist movement alive, and relevant (and not overzealous and/or misinterpreted, urgh).

why is social progression so slow, darling, why so slow?   :P

Wait until we're the old generation.  (:
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: pi on January 08, 2012, 02:38:16 pm
Wait a minute, since when was EZ female?

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Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: b^3 on January 08, 2012, 02:40:11 pm
Wait a minute, since was EZ female?
You're covers blown EZ!

EDIT: I don't seee why it should be a problem, we should be happy if our partner is successful, but then I suppose it does depend on the circumstances for some.

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Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Eriny on January 08, 2012, 03:11:22 pm
It's crazy not to date a girl because her ATAR is too high. Statistically speaking, girls overall get higher marks than boys so it will be important to overcome that intellectual inferiority complex. Aside from the fact that it's just plain demeaning to women to expect them to be 'dumber' than their partners.

Agreed that it's just best that couples have different academic interests so they aren't in competition with each other. I also notice celebrities who marry other celebrities tend to get divorced more often than celebrities who marry normal people, so different occupations might be the way to go as well.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: tony3272 on January 08, 2012, 04:24:48 pm
I think there's nothing wrong with one partner being more successful than the other, regardless of gender. It's only a problem if one tries to use this as some sort of leverage.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: jane1234 on January 08, 2012, 04:29:59 pm
Yeah I think I'd rather be with a guy in a different occupation to me - but maybe that's just because I'm too competitive for my own good... On the whole though, I don't think it really matters if one person has better achievements/whatever because it's bound to happen - I think couples just have to get over their own insecurities and be happy for each other.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: TrueTears on January 08, 2012, 05:32:36 pm
Man asif you wouldn't want a smart gf, if my gf was smarter than me, then that's perfect! I could learn a few things from her ;)
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: nisha on January 08, 2012, 05:38:50 pm
Thankyou! For being different than the rest (or the ones that judge on marks)
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Phy124 on January 08, 2012, 05:52:57 pm
Wait a minute, since when was EZ female?
I can explain that, but I'd prefer not to...

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Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: acinod on January 08, 2012, 05:56:44 pm
This girl I liked destroyed my ATAR.

We are dating now...
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: luken93 on January 08, 2012, 06:09:32 pm
I don't really care if they get close to my score/beat me, but I'd much rather someone who can hold a decent conversation than someone who just whinges and talks about nothing interesting...
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: 86 on January 08, 2012, 06:10:46 pm
This girl I liked destroyed my ATAR.

We are dating now...

(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/mother-of-god-meme.jpg)

On a serious note, intelligence is highly attractive. I mean, VERY attractive.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: WhoTookMyUsername on January 08, 2012, 06:20:05 pm
I would definitely date a girl who was better at dota than me
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: pi on January 08, 2012, 06:32:23 pm
I would definitely date a girl who was better at dota than me

Not sure if thats a good thing or not...
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: luken93 on January 08, 2012, 06:40:28 pm
This girl I liked destroyed my ATAR.

We are dating now...

(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/mother-of-god-meme.jpg)

On a serious note, intelligence is highly attractive. I mean, VERY attractive.
you must LOVE this website then haha, girls watch out!

But yeah, I know what you mean..
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: paulsterio on January 08, 2012, 07:13:33 pm
I have a feeling I will be bagged for contributing here, but oh well, I can't help myself.

Honestly, I don't really mind whether a girlfriend has a higher or lower ATAR than me, I've never really ever talked to any of my ex's about academics and school work :S
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Furbob on January 08, 2012, 08:00:37 pm
was a huge turnoff for me when my ex got 54.xx for his ATAR :\

that's what you get for watching a whole season of anime the night before your english exam.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Hodgeyhodgey on January 08, 2012, 08:09:26 pm
Who really cares about whether you got higher/lower than your partner. You like them for them, not a stupid number that determines entry into university, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard!
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Kennybhoy on January 08, 2012, 08:14:20 pm
Well hypothetically speaking, if 2 of your exes did end up getting 99.95 and you were friends with Taiga, then you would cop a lot of shit for a few months about how you could've been rich.

Just sayin'

Hypothetically.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: taiga on January 08, 2012, 08:24:39 pm
Well hypothetically speaking, if 2 of your exes did end up getting 99.95 and you were friends with Taiga, then you would cop a lot of shit for a few months about how you could've been rich.

Just sayin'

Hypothetically.

You are pathetic, all your ex's + current gf got great ATAR scores (inc 2x99.95) and you got low 90s. + You have no life and are good at nothing, whereas they're all talented somewhat.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: abd123 on January 08, 2012, 08:32:22 pm
Well hypothetically speaking, if 2 of your exes did end up getting 99.95 and you were friends with Taiga, then you would cop a lot of shit for a few months about how you could've been rich.

Just sayin'

Hypothetically.
Speaking of successful females. When will it ever be my turn to be date a macrobbian chick?

Whenever, i approach to them in sunshine library they reject me because they think im a stupid retard, im cool but i just dont know why.
Do macrobbians hate black boys? Why are they snobby? Whenever i talk to them, they move away.

You guys got any tips in scoring to date a macrobbian?

Foreveralone, Forevercolgone, Foreverblack, Foreverundateable.

I'm either going to be waiting outside of the school or the state library.

Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Jdog on January 08, 2012, 08:35:22 pm
i think although atar might not be importannt,

being on the same intellectual level i think is pretty important.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: aes_999 on January 08, 2012, 08:37:20 pm
^abd123, a tip 2 date a macrobbian?

Go to Melbourne High  :D.

But seriously, macrobbians are not
super alpha females you know.
There's nothing wrong with dating
other girls.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: TrueTears on January 08, 2012, 08:38:31 pm
Well hypothetically speaking, if 2 of your exes did end up getting 99.95 and you were friends with Taiga, then you would cop a lot of shit for a few months about how you could've been rich.

Just sayin'

Hypothetically.
Speaking of successful females. When will it ever be my turn to be date a macrobbian chick?

Whenever, i approach to them in sunshine library they reject me because they think im a stupid retard, im cool but i just dont know why.
Do macrobbians hate black boys? Why are they snobby? Whenever i talk to them, they move away.

You guys got any tips in scoring to date a macrobbian?

Foreveralone, Forevercolgone, Foreverblack, Foreverundateable.

I'm either going to be waiting outside of the school or the state library.


I guess the problem is Sunshine library ;P
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Kennybhoy on January 08, 2012, 08:47:48 pm
i think although atar might not be importannt,

being on the same intellectual level i think is pretty important.

I dunno man, when it comes to relationships, the people who you think are smart might be the most boring and illogical people when it comes to arguments.

I once argued with a girl who told me that I never saw things from her point of view. I proceeded to look out the kitchen window but she didn't seem impressed :( :( :(.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: WhoTookMyUsername on January 08, 2012, 08:48:10 pm
LOL
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: abd123 on January 08, 2012, 08:55:19 pm
Well hypothetically speaking, if 2 of your exes did end up getting 99.95 and you were friends with Taiga, then you would cop a lot of shit for a few months about how you could've been rich.

Just sayin'

Hypothetically.
Speaking of successful females. When will it ever be my turn to be date a macrobbian chick?

Whenever, i approach to them in sunshine library they reject me because they think im a stupid retard, im cool but i just dont know why.
Do macrobbians hate black boys? Why are they snobby? Whenever i talk to them, they move away.

You guys got any tips in scoring to date a macrobbian?

Foreveralone, Forevercolgone, Foreverblack, Foreverundateable.

I'm either going to be waiting outside of the school or the state library.


I guess the problem is Sunshine library ;P
I'm tired of this world.

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/126/314/3cd8a33a.png?1306264975)

It'd be best for us to ditch the human world, and live in the anime world of the romantic show 'True Tears'. The place where Fantasies happens and we can go out with cute anime chicks and enjoy the night of our lifes drinking 'sake' everyday.

You'd you be going out with Hiromi, and i'd be going out with Isurigi ;).

Good life is Good.

Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: TrueTears on January 08, 2012, 09:00:55 pm
Well hypothetically speaking, if 2 of your exes did end up getting 99.95 and you were friends with Taiga, then you would cop a lot of shit for a few months about how you could've been rich.

Just sayin'

Hypothetically.
Speaking of successful females. When will it ever be my turn to be date a macrobbian chick?

Whenever, i approach to them in sunshine library they reject me because they think im a stupid retard, im cool but i just dont know why.
Do macrobbians hate black boys? Why are they snobby? Whenever i talk to them, they move away.

You guys got any tips in scoring to date a macrobbian?

Foreveralone, Forevercolgone, Foreverblack, Foreverundateable.

I'm either going to be waiting outside of the school or the state library.


I guess the problem is Sunshine library ;P
I'm tired of this world.

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/126/314/3cd8a33a.png?1306264975)

It'd be best for us to ditch the human world, and live in the anime world of the romantic show 'True Tears'. The place where Fantasies happens and we can go out with cute anime chicks and enjoy the night of our lifes drinking 'sake' everyday.

You'd you be going out with Hiromi, and i'd be going out with Isurigi ;).

Good life is Good.


LOLOLOLOL fuck yeahhh
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: taiga on January 08, 2012, 09:08:50 pm
Anyway gotta get back onto some sort of intelligent discussion otherwise one of those darn admins/mods will lock this
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: CaiTheHuman on January 08, 2012, 09:27:50 pm
Well, in a sense i wouldn't want to be dating someone who doesnt value their education as much. But overall the ATAR shouldn't really matter. At the end of the day it shouldn't define the individual. It's based on their personality and attitude. If they dont value their education then no. If they do and they're smart +1. I would date them regardless if they're smarter then me or not. If they're smarter then you then its a good thing. They can help out you out on certain concepts you don't understand.
Society is changing and we dont all have to be macho or misogynist.

Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Camo on January 08, 2012, 09:43:37 pm
This girl I liked destroyed my ATAR.

We are dating now...

Same boat mate, same boat. :P

I have a feeling I will be bagged for contributing here, but oh well, I can't help myself.

Honestly, I don't really mind whether a girlfriend has a higher or lower ATAR than me, I've never really ever talked to any of my ex's about academics and school work :S

Shortly, Paulsterio's guide for getting the ATAR and the girl. ;)
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Camo on January 08, 2012, 09:45:56 pm
I should probably be on topic and mention that ATAR's are pretty much luck to me. Relationships are about finding common ground, shared interests, etc...
I find that if your in direct competition with your partner your most likely going to add stress to your relationship.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: fuzzylogic on January 08, 2012, 09:50:43 pm
^abd123, a tip 2 date a macrobbian?



But seriously, macrobbians are not
super alpha females you know.


true, PLC girls are!  hahahaha

okay sorry, that was not quite on topic...or necessary.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: acinod on January 08, 2012, 09:50:52 pm
Personally I see three important traits associated with making relationships.
They are: looks, intelligence and kindness/loyalty/all that kind of emotional stuff.
ATAR doesn't really determine intelligence because you may be unlucky or just lazy but secretly intelligent.
Obviously, these traits will have different priorities for each and every individual.

However the big question is...
Which of these traits do you rank as least important?

Would you prefer an ugly, stupid or evil partner?
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Camo on January 08, 2012, 10:03:22 pm
Personally I see three important traits associated with making relationships.
They are: looks, intelligence and kindness/loyalty/all that kind of emotional stuff.
ATAR doesn't really determine intelligence because you may be unlucky or just lazy but secretly intelligent.
Obviously, these traits will have different priorities for each and every individual.

However the big question is...
Which of these traits do you rank as least important?

Would you prefer an ugly, stupid or evil partner?

Well I can tell you now, having an evil partner makes it more fun. :P
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Reckoner on January 08, 2012, 10:14:07 pm
Personally I see three important traits associated with making relationships.
They are: looks, intelligence and kindness/loyalty/all that kind of emotional stuff.
ATAR doesn't really determine intelligence because you may be unlucky or just lazy but secretly intelligent.
Obviously, these traits will have different priorities for each and every individual.

However the big question is...
Which of these traits do you rank as least important?

Would you prefer an ugly, stupid or evil partner?

I'd have to say evil; everything would be much more interesting.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: fuzzylogic on January 08, 2012, 10:20:05 pm
Personally I see three important traits associated with making relationships.
They are: looks, intelligence and kindness/loyalty/all that kind of emotional stuff.
ATAR doesn't really determine intelligence because you may be unlucky or just lazy but secretly intelligent.
Obviously, these traits will have different priorities for each and every individual.

However the big question is...
Which of these traits do you rank as least important?

Would you prefer an ugly, stupid or evil partner?

Ugly....there's nothing a little surgery can't fix~ :P
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: aes_999 on January 08, 2012, 10:30:20 pm
While being ugly can deter someone to
potentially 'date' prospective partners,
once you get past the 'face', it's the inside
that's the most important.

But yeah, I totally understand that looks
are the major factor when first deciding to
date someone.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Greatness on January 08, 2012, 10:44:25 pm
Intelligence is definitely attractive the only time the opposite is true, is if you're trying to pull some moves ;)
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Reckoner on January 08, 2012, 10:51:22 pm
the only time the opposite is true, is if you're trying to pull some moves ;)

Said like the great Swarley himself  ;)
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: SDPHD on January 08, 2012, 11:06:52 pm
Now, are we talking 'date' - the social interaction or 'date' - the dried fruit?

(http://d37nnnqwv9amwr.cloudfront.net/entries/icons/original/000/003/619/Untitled-1.jpg)
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: sodapop on January 08, 2012, 11:19:57 pm
Personally I see three important traits associated with making relationships.
They are: looks, intelligence and kindness/loyalty/all that kind of emotional stuff.
ATAR doesn't really determine intelligence because you may be unlucky or just lazy but secretly intelligent.
Obviously, these traits will have different priorities for each and every individual.

However the big question is...
Which of these traits do you rank as least important?

Would you prefer an ugly, stupid or evil partner?

Definitely ugly above the two others. :)

I'd say looks would be the least important trait amongst all that you've listed, but then again, unless they're an exceptionally good person ...you've still got to consider things genetically, if you get my drift...  :P Maybe that's thinking too far ahead.

Personally, I notice that I'm attracted to guys with traits that I personally value, or aspire to. Intelligence, kindness, and having a good sense of humour probably being the main and most important ones. Also, strangely, charisma as well. I'm definitely attracted to outgoing, friendly people....I guess it's coz I'm shy myself, and I despise it (being shy).

But while I agree that a relationship free from competition is best formed when the two have strengths in different fields, there has to be some level of common interests. Do you guys think the old "opposites attract" adage is true?
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: 86 on January 08, 2012, 11:22:55 pm
Do you guys think the old "opposites attract" adage is true?

Of course, but that alone only takes you so far. That's where the other traits mentioned (personality etc) take over.

Think of a sequential twin turbo system in a car. ;D /nerdout
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Mech on January 09, 2012, 02:06:05 am
Heh, funny story is that I have had the complete opposite. My ex-girlfriend was very competitive about VCE; she was determined to beat me at English because she wants to be an author. I was very nonchalant about Year 12 and just saw it as a means to an ends (getting into my desired course). Getting a fantastic mark is dandy and all, but it was not the major thing on my mind. With that being said, I still ended up with a 93.95 which beat my ex-girlfriend. Whilst chatting over coffee, she asked me how I went. I told her I did quite well considering I did not expect to get even close to a 90.00 and that I should get into the course I want. She said this was great and seemed somewhat upset I had beaten here. I assure her of her score (I think it was 88 or 89) and that it is plenty for the course she wishes to enter. We chat briefly afterwards before she says she has to go. Okay, she just seems disappointed she did not beat me.

I get home to find she has unfriended me on Facebook, wont reply to my texts and apparently told one of my friends she does not want to talk to me any more. I pestered my friend a little to get more information why - had I been rude? - and she told me that it was purely because she was jealous of my score. Then, a few days later, another ex girlfriend (yes, I have a few) asked the same question. I tell her my ATAR and that I am happy. She tells me that is great and then tells me she, too, only got an 89. Tells me all her personal reasons for not getting a mark like mine and what not.

My question is, why do these young girls feel the need to compete with their ex boyfriend?
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: xdecay on January 09, 2012, 03:40:23 am
My question is, why do these young girls feel the need to compete with their ex boyfriend?

it's not just the girls - a couple of my ex's and 'almost-boyfriends' were uber competitive with me throughout year 12. they denigrated my subjects and in the end, i still beat them although all of them were marked down (one wasn't due to perfect score) which finally shut them up. i have a feeling that for some reason, they have the tendency to become sanctimonious and sell themselves in front of me to in a way, prove that they were the 'winners' of the break up or something. ah, politics.

and as for what your ex has done, that's just too far. you're better off not having her status on your newsfeed anyway. :P

as for answering the thread -i don't get why guys would ever feel intimidated to go out with someone with a high atar. from my understanding:
high atar = intelligence (well, there's a correlation) = makes good decisions = has good taste = if you two are going out = you're quality.
so going out with someone with a high atar = awesome.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Panicmode on January 09, 2012, 05:01:54 am
My ex-girlfriend broke up with me because I got a higher ATAR than her.

We were in the middle of Chadstone, having a coffee together after a movie and some shopping (by which I mean 2 hours of, "Really? Are you sure? I'm not sure I like it.. hmmm.... but it does match my hair") when she brings up the subject of ATAR proudly telling me she got a 97.9 . I congratulate her and we kiss and I tell her how well she's done and how all her hard work payed off. She then asked me and I dodge the question (cause I knew she wouldn't be happy that I beat her) and said I'm happy with it and it's enough to get into my course. She pesters me and insists on a concrete score so I finally tell her and she chucks this big hissy in the middle of Chadstone and tells me how I was bragging about my score and stringing her along to make her feel bad about her score. She practically slapped me in the middle of Chadstone and she storms off and we break up.... hmmm...


So yeah, some people do care about their partner's ATAR.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: xdecay on January 09, 2012, 06:46:25 am
My ex-girlfriend broke up with me because I got a higher ATAR than her.

We were in the middle of Chadstone, having a coffee together after a movie and some shopping (by which I mean 2 hours of, "Really? Are you sure? I'm not sure I like it.. hmmm.... but it does match my hair") when she brings up the subject of ATAR proudly telling me she got a 97.9 . I congratulate her and we kiss and I tell her how well she's done and how all her hard work payed off. She then asked me and I dodge the question (cause I knew she wouldn't be happy that I beat her) and said I'm happy with it and it's enough to get into my course. She pesters me and insists on a concrete score so I finally tell her and she chucks this big hissy in the middle of Chadstone and tells me how I was bragging about my score and stringing her along to make her feel bad about her score. She practically slapped me in the middle of Chadstone and she storms off and we break up.... hmmm...


So yeah, some people do care about their partner's ATAR.

i'm sorry but what a bitch. between two people, someone's ought to obtain a higher atar than the other person. no hissy fits should be involved. i bet if it was her who got higher she would've been pleased with herself and would expect you to congratulate her or whatnot. fucking double standards. people these days. also, no matter how much you love clothes you don't just drag your boyfriend knowing full well that he doesn't enjoy it.

lol sorry this rant has also been triggered by past experiences involving unreasonable girls who unjustifiably treat their partners like shit. /endanger
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: paulsterio on January 09, 2012, 11:05:16 am
i find it funny how xdecay got 97.90, hmmm......i wonder if xdecay is the gf in question :P

but anyways, it's only a 0.35 difference between Panicmode and her, as if that's a big deal! 0.35...really?!
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Greatness on January 09, 2012, 11:07:26 am
high atar = intelligence (well, there's a correlation) = makes good decisions = has good taste = if you two are going out = you're quality.
so going out with someone with a high atar = awesome.
=swarley.

^ Wow you guys have bitchy/shitty girlfriends/boyfriends.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: b^3 on January 09, 2012, 11:25:02 am
NVM the original quote here, I completely read it wrong.


but anyways, it's only a 0.35 difference between Panicmode and her, as if that's a big deal! 0.35...really?!
Second of all thats not the point, the point is it shouldn't make a difference, not by how much, it shouldn't mean anything at all. Who cares what ATAR's you got if you enjoy being with each other.

EDIT: On reading that a second time, it doesn't seem too coherent, still waking up. Also 1600th Post.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Camo on January 09, 2012, 11:37:47 am
My ex-girlfriend broke up with me because I got a higher ATAR than her.

We were in the middle of Chadstone, having a coffee together after a movie and some shopping (by which I mean 2 hours of, "Really? Are you sure? I'm not sure I like it.. hmmm.... but it does match my hair") when she brings up the subject of ATAR proudly telling me she got a 97.9 . I congratulate her and we kiss and I tell her how well she's done and how all her hard work payed off. She then asked me and I dodge the question (cause I knew she wouldn't be happy that I beat her) and said I'm happy with it and it's enough to get into my course. She pesters me and insists on a concrete score so I finally tell her and she chucks this big hissy in the middle of Chadstone and tells me how I was bragging about my score and stringing her along to make her feel bad about her score. She practically slapped me in the middle of Chadstone and she storms off and we break up.... hmmm...


So yeah, some people do care about their partner's ATAR.

But but but. Its only 98.25 and 97.9. Theres not that much a difference!!! :|

My girlfriend is happy that I'm smart, one of the things that she loves me for apparently. :)
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: thushan on January 09, 2012, 11:59:31 am
My ex-girlfriend broke up with me because I got a higher ATAR than her.

We were in the middle of Chadstone, having a coffee together after a movie and some shopping (by which I mean 2 hours of, "Really? Are you sure? I'm not sure I like it.. hmmm.... but it does match my hair") when she brings up the subject of ATAR proudly telling me she got a 97.9 . I congratulate her and we kiss and I tell her how well she's done and how all her hard work payed off. She then asked me and I dodge the question (cause I knew she wouldn't be happy that I beat her) and said I'm happy with it and it's enough to get into my course. She pesters me and insists on a concrete score so I finally tell her and she chucks this big hissy in the middle of Chadstone and tells me how I was bragging about my score and stringing her along to make her feel bad about her score. She practically slapped me in the middle of Chadstone and she storms off and we break up.... hmmm...


So yeah, some people do care about their partner's ATAR.

Holy, sorry to hear that! But having said that, I do not like your ex's attitude. Unless she wasn't herself then...did she at least apologise?
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Panicmode on January 09, 2012, 12:59:02 pm
You wouldn't think it'd make much of a difference but it did apparently.

Nope, no apology. Just a triad of Facebook bombardments from her friends about what a horrible guy I am :). It's ok though, I've unfriended them and now I don't have to put up with their ridiculously attention seeking statuses, "Oh I'm so fat, how could anyone love me?" [Damn right you attention seeking whore]

It's weird now that I look back on the whole thing I realise what a bitch she was. I kinda used to defend her after we broke up but after everything that happened prior, I can't see nay reason why I should anymore.

But I'm slightly bitter about the whole thing. It has left me with lots of free time which I have surprisingly easily filled. Work + Books + TV = Happy ;D
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Mech on January 09, 2012, 01:04:26 pm
prove that they were the 'winners' of the break up or something. ah, politics.

This is the problem with VCE. It sticks insecure teenagers in a rat race for limited positions in universities by flexing their abilities to sit down and concentrate on information you probably will not need to complete the tertiary degree (well, in my case at least). Although, valuable skills such as basics to the sciences and language/writing skills aside. I just cannot imagine when I will have to sit down in university and write a creative story or do a language analysis.  ;D

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and as for what your ex has done, that's just too far. you're better off not having her status on your newsfeed anyway. :P

That is how I feel, except we were quite happily friends. :(


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high atar = intelligence (well, there's a correlation) = makes good decisions = has good taste = if you two are going out = you're quality.
so going out with someone with a high atar = awesome.

Dubious as to what you define as "intelligence"; there is still much debate in psychology and psychiatry how well we can formally define someone's mental abilities. Marks at school prove how studious you were and a relative amount of intelligence; however, I think it mostly has to do with wrote learning and memory, personally. I say this as a person who did quite well in my VCE. And I really think stretching it out to say people with high ATARs make good decisions and have good taste is questionable. You obviously think they made the right decision by putting their all into their education; others might view that as not experiencing enough of life, that you could have got a decent ATAR with less stress involved. Taste is a matter of opinion. My friends, who all scored highly in VCE, still have questionable music tastes.  ;)
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: xdecay on January 09, 2012, 01:23:24 pm
prove that they were the 'winners' of the break up or something. ah, politics.

This is the problem with VCE. It sticks insecure teenagers in a rat race for limited positions in universities by flexing their abilities to sit down and concentrate on information you probably will not need to complete the tertiary degree (well, in my case at least). Although, valuable skills such as basics to the sciences and language/writing skills aside. I just cannot imagine when I will have to sit down in university and write a creative story or do a language analysis.  ;D

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and as for what your ex has done, that's just too far. you're better off not having her status on your newsfeed anyway. :P

That is how I feel, except we were quite happily friends. :(


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high atar = intelligence (well, there's a correlation) = makes good decisions = has good taste = if you two are going out = you're quality.
so going out with someone with a high atar = awesome.

Dubious as to what you define as "intelligence"; there is still much debate in psychology and psychiatry how well we can formally define someone's mental abilities. Marks at school prove how studious you were and a relative amount of intelligence; however, I think it mostly has to do with wrote learning and memory, personally. I say this as a person who did quite well in my VCE. And I really think stretching it out to say people with high ATARs make good decisions and have good taste is questionable. You obviously think they made the right decision by putting their all into their education; others might view that as not experiencing enough of life, that you could have got a decent ATAR with less stress involved. Taste is a matter of opinion. My friends, who all scored highly in VCE, still have questionable music tastes.  ;)

woah you're dissecting my quote into little pieces and scrutinizing them with such eloquence, so i'm feeling a tad intimidated. :P i don't disagree with you but it was just a generalisation, of course. i agree that one's atar score does not immediately relate to their intelligence but it's at least an indication even if it's just the slightest. rote-learning or not, there are skills used in studying/this whole vce process that i personally think are involved with some sectors of intelligence. like i said, it was just a generalisation as a response to the ridiculous notion of people seeing one's atar as a tool to rate the level of 'going-outability'.

ps. yeah, i know a few nerds rockin' out to 'i'm sexy and i know it'. :P nah, 'questionable music tastes'? also a matter of opinion.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: 86 on January 09, 2012, 01:37:46 pm
ps. yeah, i know a few nerds rockin' out to 'i'm sexy and i know it'. :P nah, 'questionable music tastes'? also a matter of opinion.

Anyone who listens to that mainstream rubbish needs to be intensely ridiculed.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Mech on January 09, 2012, 01:40:45 pm
woah you're dissecting my quote into little pieces and scrutinizing them with such eloquence, so i'm feeling a tad intimidated. :P i don't disagree with you but it was just a generalisation, of course. i agree that one's atar score does not immediately relate to their intelligence but it's at least an indication even if it's just the slightest. rote-learning or not, there are skills used in studying/this whole vce process that i personally think are involved with some sectors of intelligence. like i said, it was just a generalisation as a response to the ridiculous notion of people seeing one's atar as a tool to rate the level of 'going-outability'.

ps. yeah, i know a few nerds rockin' out to 'i'm sexy and i know it'. :P nah, 'questionable music tastes'? also a matter of opinion.

Sorry, I am very analytical - I was kicking myself that I put "wrote" instead of "rote" when I re-read. Pedantry is a hobby, right?  :o Studying skills, yeah, they could be important and I think they would be pro rata to your ATAR. I could agree with that.

I rock out to LMFAO. Problem?  8)
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: playsimme on January 09, 2012, 04:50:24 pm
Vce is over. Nobody should give a fuck about what their atar was, people should be grateful they even had the opppurtunity to get one. Honestly I've completely forgotten about atars because it simply does not matter anymore, it's only to get you into a course then it's upwards from there..
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: Camo on January 09, 2012, 04:54:22 pm
woah you're dissecting my quote into little pieces and scrutinizing them with such eloquence, so i'm feeling a tad intimidated. :P i don't disagree with you but it was just a generalisation, of course. i agree that one's atar score does not immediately relate to their intelligence but it's at least an indication even if it's just the slightest. rote-learning or not, there are skills used in studying/this whole vce process that i personally think are involved with some sectors of intelligence. like i said, it was just a generalisation as a response to the ridiculous notion of people seeing one's atar as a tool to rate the level of 'going-outability'.

ps. yeah, i know a few nerds rockin' out to 'i'm sexy and i know it'. :P nah, 'questionable music tastes'? also a matter of opinion.

Sorry, I am very analytical - I was kicking myself that I put "wrote" instead of "rote" when I re-read. Pedantry is a hobby, right?  :o Studying skills, yeah, they could be important and I think they would be pro rata to your ATAR. I could agree with that.

I rock out to LMFAO. Problem?  8)

May I remind you that LMFAO lead to this spin-off?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFjLMrI5hZI

EVERYDAY IM STUDYING. ;)

There's another version :O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HZfoJuB8-8&feature=relmfu

Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: nisha on January 09, 2012, 05:01:40 pm
Vce is over. Nobody should give a fuck about what their atar was, people should be grateful they even had the opppurtunity to get one. Honestly I've completely forgotten about atars because it simply does not matter anymore, it's only to get you into a course then it's upwards from there..

I think we have our conclusion here.
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: JellyDonut on January 09, 2012, 10:00:40 pm
My ex-girlfriend broke up with me because I got a higher ATAR than her.
She sounds like a horrible person, no offence
Title: Re: atar-dating 'discussion'?!
Post by: paulsterio on January 11, 2012, 11:13:44 am
That's why in High School you don't go for someone who is in the same year level as you :)

(Worked for me :D - I guess) :P