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Archived Discussion => Health => 2013 => Exam Discussion => Victoria => Health and Human Development => Topic started by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 05:37:22 pm

Title: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 05:37:22 pm
So how did everyone go? :D
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 05:41:09 pm
Was a good exam I think :)

For the question about the dietary guidelines promoting healthy eating, did you list two specific guidelines?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 05:41:53 pm
Yeah I did. Did you as well?! Yahoo!
;; Hope I didn't double dip though. Was like, so cautious throughout.
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 05:42:57 pm
I did too, thank god :)
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: tae on November 06, 2013, 05:43:32 pm
I liked it! Haha, except I felt like I was rambling on too much for certain questions..
I did that as well and I also wrote about the specific guidelines for the different ages/groups within the lifespan. :|
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 05:44:31 pm
I think I used about half a page worth of extra space. I wouldn't lose marks for this, would I?
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Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 05:45:51 pm
I was desperately writing to the last second :\ I think I may get like 3 or 4 out of 6 for the SHD question. :| there wasn't enough space for the HDI indicators
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 05:47:14 pm
I was desperately writing to the last second :\ I think I may get like 3 or 4 out of 6 for the SHD question. :| there wasn't enough space for the HDI indicators

Just to be sure.. we are talking about 'indicators' yeah? expected years of schooling, those things. not standard of living/education? ;;
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 05:48:33 pm
Just to be sure.. we are talking about 'indicators' yeah? expected years of schooling, those things. not standard of living/education? ;;
Yep
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 05:49:37 pm
Yeah, those indicators.

But it asked to say why Australia has a higher HDI using those indicators, so I thought all you had to say was something like

Australian's are required to attend school until a certain age, whilst people in developing countries often can't gain access to education. This increases the mean years of schooling for Australia whilst lowering it for the devleoping country, reflecting one reason as to why Australia has a higher HDI.

Is that right?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 05:51:55 pm
Could physical health be improved with the men's shed, because they're like physically using their bodies actively as a regular thing with the program???????
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 05:52:55 pm
Yeah, those indicators.

But it asked to say why Australia has a higher HDI using those indicators, so I thought all you had to say was something like

Australian's are required to attend school until a certain age, whilst people in developing countries often can't gain access to education. This increases the mean years of schooling for Australia whilst lowering it for the devleoping country, reflecting one reason as to why Australia has a higher HDI.

Is that right?

Sounds professional . LOL

@Edward21: I never thought of that! Sounds valid enough KKK
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Dejan on November 06, 2013, 05:53:36 pm
Can someone upload the exam here? Thanks
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 05:54:05 pm
The last program degraded my health status, I couldn't make sense of so many different things under pressure :\ selling pigs, ambassadors, emergency food??????
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 05:55:24 pm
The last program degraded my health status, I couldn't make sense of so many different things under pressure :\ selling pigs, ambassadors, emergency food??????

Flying pigs you mean.

Btw guys. "men socialising?"
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 05:56:35 pm
Flying pigs you mean.

Btw guys. "men socialising?"

The Men's Shed Association question hahaha
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 06:01:50 pm
The Men's Shed Association question hahaha

"Woodwork" they say.
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: k-smoove on November 06, 2013, 06:04:39 pm
Found the exam not too bad considering I had commenced studying over the previous two days essentially!
Also considering a 59ish/95 is an A and 72ish/95 is an A+, i feel pretty fab!
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 06:07:06 pm
Found the exam not too bad considering I had commenced studying over the previous two days essentially!
Also considering a 59ish/95 is an A and 72ish/95 is an A+, i feel pretty fab!

Predicting another lowish A+ cut off?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 06:07:18 pm
Found the exam not too bad considering I had commenced studying over the previous two days essentially!
Also considering a 59ish/95 is an A and 72ish/95 is an A+, i feel pretty fab!

Great! Heres to us doing well!
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: vashappenin on November 06, 2013, 06:12:09 pm
That was a lot better than I anticipated! Do you guys think the cut-off will rise or stay around the same.
And also, with The VicHealth priorities or whatever do we need to write them word for word? I wrote reduce harm from UV radiation instead of exposure for some reason -.-
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 06:23:44 pm
That was a lot better than I anticipated! Do you guys think the cut-off will rise or stay around the same.
And also, with The VicHealth priorities or whatever do we need to write them word for word? I wrote reduce harm from UV radiation instead of exposure for some reason -.-
If the A+ stays to a similar proportion ie. 74.5% cutoff then you'd need 70+/95; though health all in all is "easy", I don't think that the marking will be nice whatsoever, VCAA is really harsh on specifics so it could stay relatively the same. Ie. not social inequalities but social inequities, despite my textbook teaching it the first way...
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 06:25:54 pm
VCAA is really harsh on specifics so it could stay relatively the same. Ie. not social inequalities but social inequities, despite my textbook teaching it the first way...

^Uses empower + address broader. avoid it all together lol.
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: rebeccab26 on November 06, 2013, 06:31:13 pm
I think I used about half a page worth of extra space. I wouldn't lose marks for this, would I?

Of course you wouldn't :)
It's there so you can do that
As long as you got the details required in there it's fine
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: FunkyAfrican on November 06, 2013, 06:33:02 pm
Found it to be a great exam. Certainly a bit gutted I didn't get a chance to discuss Dementia, but my asthma knowledge was good. The only thing I have doubts over is the HDI indicator question as I'm not sure the link between the indicators was strong. All in all, a good exam.

I'd like to extend my wide appreciation and gratefulness to everyone who has contributed to the HHD forum. Although I did not make too many posts, I have been a regular lurker and have learnt so much. I hope we all get a study score we are happy with.
Thanks you :)
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: iwanta90sobad on November 06, 2013, 06:36:41 pm
Has anyone uploaded a copy of the exam?

I think I misread the question to do with HDI, does anyone remember the wording of it?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 06:37:52 pm
I said 'acts to empower individuals and the community' - will I lose marks?

Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Josiah Middleton on November 06, 2013, 06:52:35 pm
With that question about a program to improve maternal health that could be implemented by an NGO,
Did you guys make up a program or did you list an actual one.
I listed Zonta birthing kits, but I am not sure if it's right or not.

Cheers, hope you all went well. I thought it was much easier than I expected.
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Cloud.Nine on November 06, 2013, 07:15:40 pm
Has anyone uploaded a copy of the exam?

I think I misread the question to do with HDI, does anyone remember the wording of it?
Same case here, initially presumed dimensions and wrote Health, Education and Standard of living. Although in the description I described the indicators such as GDP Per capita and income contributing to standard of living, Education enrolments etc.
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 07:20:26 pm
I think I screwd up the HDI question. I didn't really explain why developed countries have a higher life expectancy/mean years of schooling etc, just that they do.

How many marks was it worth?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: bellaellaella on November 06, 2013, 07:23:11 pm
With how much time left did everyone finish?
I finished a good half hour early and wonder whether my responses lacked detail
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 07:24:16 pm
If anyone could upload the exam, I will love them for eternity <3 before I kill that last food security question..
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 07:24:49 pm
With how much time left did everyone finish?
I finished a good half hour early and wonder whether my responses lacked detail

Same
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: tae on November 06, 2013, 07:25:53 pm
I think I screwd up the HDI question. I didn't really explain why developed countries have a higher life expectancy/mean years of schooling etc, just that they do.

How many marks was it worth?

Pretty sure it was 4 marks. :)
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: teletubbies_95 on November 06, 2013, 07:26:05 pm
METHODS <<<<<<<< HEALTH .

People finished like 15 minutes to go , I finished right on the dot.
That question was 4 marks ! :)
The question specifically asked for indicators of HDI and according to Andrew  Beaumont , in his notes, it includes expected and mean years of schooling, life expectancy AT BIRTH and GNI.

I think i stuffed up the Dietary Guidelines question? What did you guys write for it?

YAY! HEALTH IS FINALLY OVER. IM SURE YOU GUYS ACED IT :)
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 07:30:55 pm
Quote
The question specifically asked for indicators of HDI and according to Andrew  Beaumont , in his notes, it includes expected and mean years of schooling, life expectancy AT BIRTH and GNI.

I just wrote that developed countries have a higher life expectancy, and therefore a higher HDI. But I didn't explain WHY they have a higher life expectancy. Will I lose 1 mark? (because I think you get 1 mark for identifying it)
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: vashappenin on November 06, 2013, 07:33:34 pm
I answered the dietary guidelines question but didn't actually mention any specific guidelines.. Whoops!
Surprisingly, I had around 10-15 minutes left. I think I misread the time at the beginning so I was going really fast. Oh well, it helped me to check over in the end :)
Oh, and I was going to get an exam paper but the supervisor said that our coordinator wanted all the exams to go straight to him first, and that I could get it off him.. I really want an exam paper so I might ask him tomorrow. If nobody uploads the exam by then, then I'll upload it tomorrow!
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: joecantwell on November 06, 2013, 07:41:34 pm
Could physical health be improved with the men's shed, because they're like physically using their bodies actively as a regular thing with the program???????


I don't think you will get marks for that personally i put down 1.Social due to socialising with other men from the community and 2.Mental health due to them learning wood work skills which will promote there self esteem
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 07:50:07 pm

I don't think you will get marks for that personally i put down 1.Social due to socialising with other men from the community and 2.Mental health due to them learning wood work skills which will promote there self esteem
Yeah I was thinking that, however I've always been inclined to quote as evidence to back up my stuff; I put down social then physical. It just seemed like they were using their physical strength regularly with the program to "example X on woodwork" argh  :-\
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 07:59:56 pm
I answered the guidelines... but I didn't directly quote them

e.g. They promote healthy eating by advising individuals to reduce the intake of saturated fats, trans fats etc (elaborated more)

Would I lose marks?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: vashappenin on November 06, 2013, 08:04:23 pm
The only reason I didn't directly mention guidelines was because the question didn't ask to state any guidelines and so I thought it wasn't necessary.. But not so sure anymore! How much was it out of again??
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: bellaellaella on November 06, 2013, 08:05:04 pm
I know it's soon to be thinking about but come the day, how do we actually find out our study score?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 08:08:03 pm
I know it's soon to be thinking about but come the day, how do we actually find out our study score?
Umm the 16th of december. You register soon for text message, or log on and view it at 7am+ you're graduating 2014, so just the HHD study score right?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: teletubbies_95 on November 06, 2013, 08:10:01 pm
Did we have to mention the guidelines?
I did ...just in case, but do you have to ?

WTFF.. ASTHMA INSTEAD OF DEMENTIAA? WTF?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 08:12:03 pm
Did we have to mention the guidelines?
I did ...just in case, but do you have to ?

WTFF.. ASTHMA INSTEAD OF DEMENTIAA? WTF?
I don't think so, it's brownie points probably but not necessary.
Yeah I predicted that, luckily I studied them all equally as precaution.
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: vashappenin on November 06, 2013, 08:16:48 pm
OMG WHEN I SAW ASTHMA I WAS SOOOOO RELIEVED!!! Asthma is like my no.1 favourite NHPA lol, so it was really relieving to see they examined us on that instead of another NHPA :D
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: bellaellaella on November 06, 2013, 08:19:47 pm
Umm the 16th of december. You register soon for text message, or log on and view it at 7am+ you're graduating 2014, so just the HHD study score right?

That's right, it's just HHD this year. We just haven't been told ANYTHING through school yet and I just figured that was just odd considering we don't have any time with our year 12's anymore.
Do we register for it ourselves? Or has the school already done it? I just don't want a text message or the letter and would rather check online in my own time
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: scrono on November 06, 2013, 08:20:07 pm
With the iodine question as a determinant of health, would this get marks

"required by the thyroid gland to assist the metabolism and growth of the body, preventing goitre"
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: bellaellaella on November 06, 2013, 08:22:00 pm
OMG WHEN I SAW ASTHMA I WAS SOOOOO RELIEVED!!! Asthma is like my no.1 favourite NHPA lol, so it was really relieving to see they examined us on that instead of another NHPA :D

I was so shocked! I thought that was one of the easiest (besides obesity) because it only had the one condition.
And nothing on dementia at all!? Even a larger shock to the system
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: teletubbies_95 on November 06, 2013, 08:23:05 pm
Me likes cardiovascular health ! :(
But many people in my class couldn't remember a program for it.
And I couldn't remember a function for folate as well, so i just wrote beans and folate fortified bread .
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: vashappenin on November 06, 2013, 08:31:00 pm
Lol folate was the one I kept blindly skimming over because I'm like 'Nah, they won't ask us this minor, insignificant nutrient'. Nek minnut..
Haha, but I really thought hard and remembered that my favourite vegetable, mushrooms, are a source of folate but it hit me after so long haha! I had a feeling they'd ask about iodine and iron though!
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 08:31:25 pm
Didn't it only say a food source? I said Vegemite :)
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: vashappenin on November 06, 2013, 08:35:45 pm
Yeah I don't know why vegemite didn't hit me in the exam haha.. Yeah they asked for a food source only :)
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 08:37:24 pm
Did you guys get the food security question? I thankfully memorised the definition in the study design!
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: yunus.aboueid on November 06, 2013, 08:42:14 pm
Where was the ottawa charter.... the values of the healthcare system... the WHO core functions..... all major topics that were non existent in the exam. Good exam overall... what are peoples thoughts to what the A+ cut off will be ?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: The Brightest Witch on November 06, 2013, 08:49:22 pm
I saw the iodine question and just completely blanked on its function which really depressed me during reading time 'cause it's so demoralizing not to know one of the first few questions but there was extra time at the end and it came to me and I'm so happy :D

How do people find out what the A+ cutoffs are anyway - like for past years, where do they announce it?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 08:51:38 pm
What'd you guys do for characteristics of Asthma ?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: The Brightest Witch on November 06, 2013, 08:58:13 pm
What'd you guys do for characteristics of Asthma ?

Just narrowing of the airways and causing symptoms like coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and the fact that it's chronic and that's pretty much it I think. I might have mentioned triggers...
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: vashappenin on November 06, 2013, 09:10:54 pm
I saw the iodine question and just completely blanked on its function which really depressed me during reading time 'cause it's so demoralizing not to know one of the first few questions but there was extra time at the end and it came to me and I'm so happy :D

How do people find out what the A+ cutoffs are anyway - like for past years, where do they announce it?
Here's the link for all 2012 subjects: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Pages/vce/statistics/2012/statssect3.aspx and for hhd specifically: http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/statistics/2012/section3/vce_health_and_human_development_ga12.pdf

But otherwise, just google something along the lines of VCAA grade distributions [insert year] and you'll get reports for all subjects, so you can check them out if you want! HHD exam is GA3, so that's the last page of the document :)
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 09:13:48 pm
What'd you guys write for the question regarding why did that Isabel thing support the malaria program
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: vashappenin on November 06, 2013, 09:23:34 pm
Don't think I mentioned this before but I actually was sooooo certain they wouldn't put Dementia on the exam because obviously everyone would be like "OMG NEW NHPA ITS OBVS GONNA BE ON THE EXAM", so they wouldn't want to satisfy everyone and used reverse psychology haha :P
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 09:26:19 pm
What'd you guys write for the question regarding why did that Isabel thing support the malaria program

I said Malaria contributes largely to mortality rates in developing countries
and
Sufferers of malaria are often unable to work, thus not earning an income and making the poverty cycle near impossible to break
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 09:33:54 pm
The the broad Reduce Child Mortality question, explain its importance? I just stressed that innocent children were dying of infectious preventable conditions (a few examples) which further creates a health disparity between the developed and developing world... I'm not exactly sure just how specific you had to be? I'm so angry that 10 of the trial papers I did I had 30mins to go, this one like 0secs  >:(
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Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 09:37:14 pm
With the importance question I said

This goal is important as children are the future of countries and it is their role to promote stability and prosperity for the future generation and ensure development. 1 mark you think? That question caught me off
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Post by: jess123 on November 06, 2013, 09:39:11 pm
what did you guys say for the two elements of world peace and security: i wrote peace keeping and peace building but i was not sure :(
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Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 09:39:11 pm
With the importance question I said

This goal is important as children are the future of countries and it is their role to promote stability and prosperity for the future generation and ensure development. 1 mark you think? That question caught me off

I did similar. I did they are the future of the country's society and economy.
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 09:40:52 pm
what did you guys say for the two elements of world peace and security: i wrote peace keeping and peace building but i was not sure :(

I said they send peace keeping troops to countries in conflict
and
Place trade bans on countries in conflict to encourage a resolution
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Cloud.Nine on November 06, 2013, 09:41:45 pm
Don't think I mentioned this before but I actually was sooooo certain they wouldn't put Dementia on the exam because obviously everyone would be like "OMG NEW NHPA ITS OBVS GONNA BE ON THE EXAM", so they wouldn't want to satisfy everyone and used reverse psychology haha :P
Yeah same here, I think they would give it time to be properly published through the text books before it becomes examinable. As most text books that students are using this year would not have had Dementia listed as an NHPA.
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Post by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 09:46:08 pm
I thought that malaria importance question was another way of saying: why are malaria programs important. Like, similar to the MDGs purpose/reason for existing/their respective importance.
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 09:48:15 pm
I thought that malaria importance question was another way of saying: why are malaria programs important. Like, similar to the MDGs purpose/reason for existing/their respective importance.

It was, wasn't it? :/ That's how I answered it anyway
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Post by: The Brightest Witch on November 06, 2013, 09:51:02 pm
It was, wasn't it? :/ That's how I answered it anyway

Was it worth 2 marks all together or 4?
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Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 09:52:49 pm
What'd you do for the state government in asthma>
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Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 09:54:41 pm
What'd you do for the state government in asthma>
I said health promotion funding ie. towards VicHealth to encourage people to QUIT smoking as it acts as an asthma risk factor.. that was the best I could do under the pressure haha
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 09:54:56 pm
The one about why it was implemented was 2. Then there was another question which I can't remember then the one about the AusAID objective.

For the objective question, did you guys use the 'assist countries in Australia's region achieve the MDGs', then speak about MDG 6?

Wasn't the question just asking two responsibilities of each level of government? :/
I said the delivery of health services such as public hospitals.
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 09:55:30 pm
Did I not read the question properly? Did it have to be specific to Asthma?
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Post by: The Brightest Witch on November 06, 2013, 09:57:35 pm
The one about why it was implemented was 2. Then there was another question which I can't remember then the one about the AusAID objective.

For the objective question, did you guys use the 'assist countries in Australia's region achieve the MDGs', then speak about MDG 6?

Wasn't the question just asking two responsibilities of each level of government? :/
I said the delivery of health services such as public hospitals.

Yep, I did the MDG thing. Yeah I said public hospitals for state too. No idea if it was 2 responsibilities - I only did 1 :/
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 09:58:37 pm
It was 1, but did it have to be specific to treating Asthma?!? :/
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Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 10:01:24 pm
It was 1, but did it have to be specific to treating Asthma?!? :/
I'm sure of it  :-[ sorry to be the bearer of bad news. VCAA does this to pull out people who are used to rote pulling out facts on paper, and get people to think about the relevance of their content in different situations. However don't despair! Often you need like 75%+ for an A+ grading, so 1 or 2 marks isn't going to ruin everything.  :)
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Post by: The Brightest Witch on November 06, 2013, 10:06:45 pm
I said public hospitals which might be used in case of severe attacks would that be alright or..?
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Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 10:09:33 pm
I said public hospitals which might be used in case of severe attacks would that be alright or..?

thats what i did
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Post by: FunkyAfrican on November 06, 2013, 10:15:28 pm
The iodine question, I was unaware you had to link back to a health function and merely stated that it is used by the thyroid gland to regulate metabolism.
Will I get the mark?  :-\
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: bellaellaella on November 06, 2013, 10:18:58 pm
I said public hospitals which might be used in case of severe attacks would that be alright or..?

I did this too
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: joy1010 on November 06, 2013, 10:24:56 pm
The only reason I didn't directly mention guidelines was because the question didn't ask to state any guidelines and so I thought it wasn't necessary.. But not so sure anymore! How much was it out of again??

i didn't mention any guidelines either, i kept staring at the question and i was thinking if i should write down 2 dietary guidelines or not because it didn't say 'state'
what did you write for it?
Title: Re: No one made a exam discussion thread yet?!?
Post by: joy1010 on November 06, 2013, 10:32:12 pm
GUYS WHAT DID U WRITE FOR THE BIOLOGICAL DETERMINANT FOR THE SOCIOECONOMIC QUESTION?

AND AS IF THERE WAS NO DEMENTIA, I WAS FULLY PREPARED FOR THAT MAN
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Post by: mezmusic on November 06, 2013, 10:32:31 pm
Yeah that's right
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Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 10:45:10 pm
GUYS WHAT DID U WRITE FOR THE BIOLOGICAL DETERMINANT FOR THE SOCIOECONOMIC QUESTION?

AND AS IF THERE WAS NO DEMENTIA, I WAS FULLY PREPARED FOR THAT MAN

body weight - obesity
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Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 10:50:39 pm
Do you think i'd lose a mark for saying that athsma is caused by a build up of mucus in the air ways? (for one of my characteristics) because Its in the text book but i donno
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Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 10:52:14 pm
With the food security explanation, I did the vichealth definition almost word for word, then I sort of re-explained it to health food an nutrition to protect against disease with a safe supply........  :-\ Why was it 2 marks, any ideas what was exactly need to score 2/2?
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Post by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 10:57:07 pm
With the food security explanation, I did the vichealth definition almost word for word, then I sort of re-explained it to health food an nutrition to protect against disease with a safe supply........  :-\ Why was it 2 marks, any ideas what was exactly need to score 2/2?

Maybe they are looking for key phrases in the definition? Such as, nutritionally adequate, culturally appropriate, etc.
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Post by: Scrono13 on November 06, 2013, 10:57:21 pm
With the social model of health principles, did it say to show how they're evident in the study or just to explain two of them

And @edward21, I simply used the VicHealth definition. In 2011 there was a 2 marker to define health promotion which was short also, so I think that vichealth definition will get full marks :)
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Post by: Aelru on November 06, 2013, 10:58:17 pm
I think regarding that question, it asked to "explain how it is evident"
Just in case, I did both ;;
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Post by: Edward21 on November 06, 2013, 11:09:27 pm
OH Thank GOD! My friend just told me it asked to explain the principles! I just showed how they were evident
Yeah it was both, it was using the examples to explain what the principle is about  :D
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Post by: millie96 on November 06, 2013, 11:37:02 pm
Does it matter if I only wrote hospitals instead of public for state government'a role?
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Post by: adrihepburn on November 07, 2013, 12:02:02 am
Does it matter if I only wrote hospitals instead of public for state government'a role?
I am pretty sure you were supposed to link it to asthma.. I wrote hospitals, also, but said that they facilitate accommodation for asthmatics when in need eg. after asthma attacks.

and for federal i wrote, the PBS - subsidising the cost of ventolin 
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Post by: millie96 on November 07, 2013, 07:30:48 am
Yeah cool I did link it to asthma
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Post by: eieme on November 07, 2013, 12:18:49 pm
You guys just made me feel so terrible  :'(
For the HDI question I'm pretty sure I wrote "health" and "living standards" (but I wrote in the answer the life expectancy and the GNI/captita)... I sooo hope that I'm still getting the marks!!

Either way! I thought the exam was quite... not easy but manageable! I lost the mark for the folate question though. I wrote beans because I couldn't think of anything else! Ah well, one mark!  :P

Oooh! Did anyone else have difficulty with the graph?! I thought it was really weirdly worded and I had no idea what they were actually asking for! Ended up rewriting it about two or three times....   :-\
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Post by: millie96 on November 07, 2013, 12:52:21 pm
Yeah! The fruit and vegetable one? Soo confusing
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Post by: Edward21 on November 07, 2013, 01:49:48 pm
Yeah! The fruit and vegetable one? Soo confusing
Yeah true! I compared both fruits and vegetables in separate sentences between the same time frames like increasing from this age group to the older one  ???
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Post by: millie96 on November 07, 2013, 02:26:01 pm
Yeah that sounds right, I think you had to talk about the increase in people as it asked for "percentage of people"
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Post by: eieme on November 07, 2013, 03:03:06 pm
Yeah true! I compared both fruits and vegetables in separate sentences between the same time frames like increasing from this age group to the older one  ???

I was going to do that at first, as in, compare fruit and vegetable intake, but then that stupid "percentage of people" confused me because there wasn't anything written anywhere about the percentage of people, just the percentage of adequate, regular fruit/vegetable intake...  :-\

So in the end I just rewrote the question into a statement and chucked some statistics in...  :-[
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Post by: Dejan on November 07, 2013, 03:10:17 pm
Sorry to be annoying but can someone upload the exam, Please?
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Post by: Scrono13 on November 07, 2013, 04:01:45 pm
I was going to do that at first, as in, compare fruit and vegetable intake, but then that stupid "percentage of people" confused me because there wasn't anything written anywhere about the percentage of people, just the percentage of adequate, regular fruit/vegetable intake...  :-\

So in the end I just rewrote the question into a statement and chucked some statistics in...  :-[

Could you have just said

A trend present is that the percentage of people meeting their recommended fruit intake is higher than the percentage of people meeting their vegetable intake for every age group?
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Post by: FunkyAfrican on November 07, 2013, 06:03:02 pm
That question asking how the sunsmart program helps achieve the VICHEALTH mission, did you weave bits of their mission (such as strengthen the understanding of skills...) into your answer?
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Post by: tae on November 07, 2013, 06:05:53 pm
That question asking how the sunsmart program helps achieve the VICHEALTH mission, did you weave bits of their mission (such as strengthen the understanding of skills...) into your answer?

yes I did that!

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Post by: millie96 on November 07, 2013, 06:19:12 pm
yes I did that!

Me too! did you only use that component of the mission? (I didn't weave anything about changing the environments etc)
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Post by: FunkyAfrican on November 07, 2013, 06:30:14 pm
Me too! did you only use that component of the mission? (I didn't weave anything about changing the environments etc)
It was only worth two marks so I dont think you had to talk about both components of their mission. But seeing as i had some extra time at the end, I did it anyway at the extra writing space.
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Post by: yunus.aboueid on November 07, 2013, 06:41:07 pm
hey guys, i know this is probably most likely 110% wrong,  but what's the chance of me getting a mark for writing those in the lowest ses have a greater levels of genetic pre disposition to cancers, cvd etc... as opposed to those in the highest ses. Preety far fetched but was just wondering. why i wouldnt use something like body weight still baffles me... argh ><
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Post by: iwanta90sobad on November 07, 2013, 08:30:02 pm
Oh, and I was going to get an exam paper but the supervisor said that our coordinator wanted all the exams to go straight to him first, and that I could get it off him.. I really want an exam paper so I might ask him tomorrow. If nobody uploads the exam by then, then I'll upload it tomorrow!

could you please upload it :)
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Post by: vashappenin on November 07, 2013, 09:24:38 pm
Hey I'm sorry! I would but I didn't see my coordinator at school today and I won't see him again until Monday/Tuesday, and I don't even know if he'll have them then, but I'll definitely upload it by then if no one else has. Really sorry!
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Post by: iwanta90sobad on November 07, 2013, 09:26:35 pm
Hey I'm sorry! I would but I didn't see my coordinator at school today and I won't see him again until Monday/Tuesday, and I don't even know if he'll have them then, but I'll definitely upload it by then if no one else has. Really sorry!

haha no worries, thanks so much
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Post by: millie96 on November 07, 2013, 09:28:30 pm
For the question about biological determinant, I said body weight, but didn't specifically state obesity. I said rural areas are more likely to have a higher body weight, with this being a risk factor for CVD. Do you think that'd be ok?

Yep, should be fine! Because you don't need to be obese to have body weight complications. As long as you mentioned high body weight or something along those lines :)
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Post by: millie96 on November 07, 2013, 09:33:41 pm
For the sustainability definition I did

"meeting the needs of today without reducing the capabilities of future generations to meet their own needs"
instead of
"meeting the needs of today without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs"

Does anyone know how strict they are on definitions?  :(
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Post by: Scrono13 on November 07, 2013, 09:37:36 pm
For the sustainability definition I did

"meeting the needs of today without reducing the capabilities of future generations to meet their own needs"
instead of
"meeting the needs of today without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs"

Does anyone know how strict they are on definitions?  :(

You'll be fine I think. They still pretty much mean the same thing I think :)


With the lowest SES question, I said body weight and said lowest SES are more likely to have a high body weight leading to CVD, greater mortality rates and lower LE, however I didn't directly specify obesity. Will I lose a mark do you think?
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Post by: Smiley_ on November 08, 2013, 11:00:38 am
what did you guys say for the two elements of world peace and security: i wrote peace keeping and peace building but i was not sure :(

Peace keeping and the UN Security Council . Would they be right !


For the sustainability definition I did

"meeting the needs of today without reducing the capabilities of future generations to meet their own needs"
instead of
"meeting the needs of today without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs"

Does anyone know how strict they are on definitions?  :(


You'll be fine :)
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Post by: teletubbies_95 on November 08, 2013, 11:19:10 am
You'll be fine I think. They still pretty much mean the same thing I think :)


With the lowest SES question, I said body weight and said lowest SES are more likely to have a high body weight leading to CVD, greater mortality rates and lower LE, however I didn't directly specify obesity. Will I lose a mark do you think?
If you explained HOW it leads to CVD then you would have , but it doesn't matter if you didn't put obesity ,as body weight is a precursor to many conditions , like CVD as you mentioned. :)

Peace keeping and the UN Security Council . Would they be right !



You'll be fine :)

Yes that's right! :)
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Post by: Smiley_ on November 08, 2013, 11:52:12 am
If you explained HOW it leads to CVD then you would have , but it doesn't matter if you didn't put obesity ,as body weight is a precursor to many conditions , like CVD as you mentioned. :)

Yes that's right! :)


Yep :)
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Post by: Edward21 on November 08, 2013, 12:17:43 pm
For the UN global peace and security would you pay these 2?
1) Acting as a mediator to resolve conflicts that could resolve in eg. wars
2) As a result of war and conflict, people are often relocated where the UN provides temporary shelters and personnel to keep the area secure and bring people to peace with medical supplies provided in case of infections ie. bandages and antibiotics; this is done on a global scale.

I was really struggling for the second one..  :-[
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Post by: Edward21 on November 08, 2013, 12:18:39 pm
For the UN global peace and security would you pay these 2?
1) Acting as a mediator to resolve conflicts that could resolve in eg. wars
2) As a result of war and conflict, people are often relocated where the UN provides temporary shelters and personnel to keep the area secure and bring people to peace with medical supplies provided in case of infections ie. bandages and antibiotics; this is done on a global scale.

I was really struggling for the second one..  :-[
Ok that wasn't how I worded it, rather an peaceful environment is created with the provision of necessary supplies by the UN
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Post by: Smiley_ on November 08, 2013, 12:25:17 pm
For the UN global peace and security would you pay these 2?
1) Acting as a mediator to resolve conflicts that could resolve in eg. wars
2) As a result of war and conflict, people are often relocated where the UN provides temporary shelters and personnel to keep the area secure and bring people to peace with medical supplies provided in case of infections ie. bandages and antibiotics; this is done on a global scale.

I was really struggling for the second one..  :-[


To be honest not many people would get two , I don't think
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Post by: caits_g on November 08, 2013, 01:06:20 pm
Found the exam Great! only thing that tripped me up was how the UN promotes peace and security! forgot to study that woops! and the last question on the health, human development and sustainability one
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Post by: millie96 on November 08, 2013, 03:03:25 pm
I did
1) they have a peacekeeping force within the security council
2) they place trade sanctions on countries whom threaten global peace?
is that ok
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Post by: Scrono13 on November 08, 2013, 04:03:02 pm
I did
1) they have a peacekeeping force within the security council
2) they place trade sanctions on countries whom threaten global peace?
is that ok

Yeah I send sends out peace keeping troops to mediate
and trade sanctions on countries to encourage resolution!

I think that'll get us two marks :)
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Post by: Smiley_ on November 08, 2013, 07:48:19 pm
I thought there would be at least 1 really difficult but there was only really questions where u might not get full marks
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Post by: adrihepburn on November 08, 2013, 09:26:44 pm
Yeah I send sends out peace keeping troops to mediate
and trade sanctions on countries to encourage resolution!

I think that'll get us two marks :)


I did something like they 1) they help stop disputes from escalating into war
And 2) act as mediators working with governments to resolve conflicts that have risen
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Post by: teletubbies_95 on November 08, 2013, 09:32:32 pm
I wrote:
1) assists countries implement legislation for peace keeping and peace building
2) implementation of the UN Security council to negotiate and make decisions for peace and security

And then I explained how assists countries implement legislation ,such as the UN helping the Syrian government implement legislation related to weapons and implementation of security systems, thus decreasing the incidence of injuries due to gun woulds and artilitary , caused by conflict.
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Post by: millie96 on November 08, 2013, 10:08:38 pm
What'd you guys do for the HDI one? Did you explain WHY HDI increased?

Just say you used life expectancy. Did you say that the HDI was higher in ___ as they had a higher life expectancy (worded better w/ data), but did you explain WHY they have a higher life expectancy?
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Post by: teletubbies_95 on November 08, 2013, 10:14:19 pm
What'd you guys do for the HDI one? Did you explain WHY HDI increased?

Just say you used life expectancy. Did you say that the HDI was higher in ___ as they had a higher life expectancy (worded better w/ data), but did you explain WHY they have a higher life expectancy?
If they wanted to be really pedantic they could say that you could get a mark only if you said "life expectancy AT BIRTH" . But I don't think they will be that mean :P
I said :
Life expectancy at birth (indicator of health)
Australia has a higher life expectancy , which can be contributed through many factors such as more opportunities of healthcare and education , compared to life expectancy at birth in developing countries , who may have lesser opportunities of healthcare , education and income. :)
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Post by: millie96 on November 08, 2013, 10:44:18 pm
If they wanted to be really pedantic they could say that you could get a mark only if you said "life expectancy AT BIRTH" . But I don't think they will be that mean :P
I said :
Life expectancy at birth (indicator of health)
Australia has a higher life expectancy , which can be contributed through many factors such as more opportunities of healthcare and education , compared to life expectancy at birth in developing countries , who may have lesser opportunities of healthcare , education and income. :)

Oh god i hope they're feeling nice!! I made sooo many stupid mistakes like that argh
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Post by: Smiley_ on November 09, 2013, 07:55:29 am
What'd you guys do for the HDI one? Did you explain WHY HDI increased?

Just say you used life expectancy. Did you say that the HDI was higher in ___ as they had a higher life expectancy (worded better w/ data), but did you explain WHY they have a higher life expectancy?

I talked about gni per capita and mean years of schooling
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Post by: adrihepburn on November 09, 2013, 04:58:06 pm
I talked about gni per capita and mean years of schooling

Do you mean GDP? I thought it was measured by GDP rather than gross national income, shiiiiiit!
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Post by: Smiley_ on November 09, 2013, 05:00:07 pm
Do you mean GDP? I thought it was measured by GDP rather than gross national income, shiiiiiit!

sorry its GNI
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/bulletin/2012/2012FebBull.pdf

but dont worry about it, you might get a mark for your explanation.

How did you find the exam, otherwise ?
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Post by: adrihepburn on November 09, 2013, 05:45:37 pm
sorry its GNI
http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/bulletin/2012/2012FebBull.pdf

but dont worry about it, you might get a mark for your explanation.

How did you find the exam, otherwise ?

It's fine, I messaged my teacher and she said that both are acceptable.
The rest of it was very easy!
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Post by: millie96 on November 09, 2013, 06:21:58 pm
It's fine, I messaged my teacher and she said that both are acceptable.
The rest of it was very easy!

Do you think i'd lose a mark for using 'life expectancy' instead of 'life expectancy at birth'
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Post by: millie96 on November 09, 2013, 06:23:05 pm
Does anyone have a copy?
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Post by: adrihepburn on November 09, 2013, 06:32:35 pm
Do you think i'd lose a mark for using 'life expectancy' instead of 'life expectancy at birth'
No, I doubt it.
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Post by: teletubbies_95 on November 09, 2013, 06:34:02 pm
Nup don't have a copy ! :(

Since it was a relatively easy exam, they might be pedantic, but most possibly they won't take marks off for only saying "life expectancy"

What did we have to include as a UN definition for sustainability for 2 marks?

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Post by: Scrono13 on November 09, 2013, 06:43:02 pm
Nup don't have a copy ! :(

Since it was a relatively easy exam, they might be pedantic, but most possibly they won't take marks off for only saying "life expectancy"

What did we have to include as a UN definition for sustainability for 2 marks?

Meeting the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs, I think..

That's what I wrote :)
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Post by: millie96 on November 09, 2013, 06:45:21 pm
it was only worth 1 mark i think
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Post by: Scrono13 on November 09, 2013, 06:47:28 pm
it was only worth 1 mark i think

Nah, it was 2 I'm pretty sure :)
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Post by: teletubbies_95 on November 09, 2013, 06:55:14 pm
Don't you guys think 2 marks is a bit too much for that definition?
I dunno?
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Post by: adrihepburn on November 09, 2013, 07:07:21 pm
It was two marks, that's why I was a little confused.. they'll give 1 mark for answers that were close, or a word off and 2 marks only to the exact definitions..
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Post by: millie96 on November 09, 2013, 07:13:11 pm
Oh really? I could have sworn it was only 1 and the food security was 2..
oh well you're probably right  :)

So if I wrote "meeting the needs of today without *reducing* the ability of future generations to meet their own needs", do you think i'd get 0/2 or 1/2?
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Post by: teletubbies_95 on November 09, 2013, 07:15:54 pm
I included an example of a type of sustainability just in case , but I was unsure what I had to write .
Yesh , both definitions I think were 2 marks?

Was health status 2 marks or 1 ?
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Post by: adrihepburn on November 09, 2013, 07:23:24 pm
I included an example of a type of sustainability just in case , but I was unsure what I had to write .
Yesh , both definitions I think were 2 marks?

Was health status 2 marks or 1 ?

Health status was one!
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Post by: Scrono13 on November 09, 2013, 07:25:19 pm
I think it'll simply be the definition.

In 2011 2 marks was given for the definition of health promotion, which is quite short too!
"The process of enabling people to increase control over, and to improve, their health."

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Post by: teletubbies_95 on November 09, 2013, 07:43:45 pm
Okays! I was like 2 marks , for a one line definition, what do they expect?

Thanks guys!
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Post by: madsreid on November 25, 2013, 07:07:43 pm
Hey
Has anyone posted the answers or anything yet? :D
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Post by: Smiley_ on November 25, 2013, 07:09:09 pm
I don't think anyone can be bothered ! :P

but if you have a specific question we would be happy to help :)
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Post by: teletubbies_95 on November 25, 2013, 09:00:12 pm
If someone has the exam , I don't mind writing solutions :P ( I have nothing better to do anyway) !