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Title: Thoughts on exam?
Post by: lala1911 on November 14, 2013, 05:31:54 pm
Thoughts?
Mfw q1a).   ._.
Title: Re: Thoughts on exam?
Post by: registereduser on November 14, 2013, 05:37:17 pm
Haha what was wrong with question 1a? I felt like it was easier than expected :D
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Post by: tbabes96 on November 14, 2013, 05:40:28 pm
Last question : "how does management styles play a role in termination"
Wtf!
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Post by: Natalie96 on November 14, 2013, 05:43:31 pm
It was great and I know that by how my hand is still in pain from all that freakin' writing
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Post by: Jason12 on November 14, 2013, 05:49:07 pm
it wasn't too bad and quite happy with it. Only annoyance was the definition of "informational". I just wrote communicating in the form of verbal information such as meetings and worded communication (emails, memos)
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Post by: Damoz.G on November 14, 2013, 05:50:02 pm
I found the exam really good. But this annoys me though :(
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Post by: uprising on November 14, 2013, 05:52:32 pm
Last question : "how does management styles play a role in termination"
Wtf!

If an autocratic leader is in charge, and an employee left because of dissatisfaction, then word could get out and affect chances for future recruitment to fill that spot. A consultative leader would be best for that position as the employee would leave happily, possibly even with the manager helping them find further employment.

That's my guess anyway!
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Post by: Natalie96 on November 14, 2013, 05:55:30 pm
If an autocratic leader is in charge, and an employee left because of dissatisfaction, then word could get out and affect chances for future recruitment to fill that spot. A consultative leader would be best for that position as the employee would leave happily, possibly even with the manager helping them find further employment.

That's my guess anyway!

Oh good I wrote something a long those lines too! Except mine was a lot more rushed and a lot less detailed because I nearly ran out of time :/ oh well
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Post by: Damoz.G on November 14, 2013, 06:00:06 pm
If an autocratic leader is in charge, and an employee left because of dissatisfaction, then word could get out and affect chances for future recruitment to fill that spot. A consultative leader would be best for that position as the employee would leave happily, possibly even with the manager helping them find further employment.

That's my guess anyway!


Yup, my answer was similar to that as well. :)
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Post by: anna.xo on November 14, 2013, 06:00:37 pm
Am I the only one who ran out of time and thought they didn't do as well they could have ? Oh well.
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Post by: Samantha987 on November 14, 2013, 06:08:20 pm
The question about Hertzberg and Locke's theory confused me. How exactly did you evaluate their theories?
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Post by: jaz95 on November 14, 2013, 06:12:43 pm
I think it was a fair exam! The first two questions of question 1 were a godsend... can't believe VCAA used such easy questions. The only questions that threw me was question 5 regarding kotter's theory and ethical and socially responsibility. As for the 10 mark question, a bit thrown together but I think it provided us with a lot of stimulus to achieve 10 marks!
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Post by: janson34 on November 14, 2013, 06:15:23 pm
so easy surprisingly,

few tricky questions

hopefully 60/65.
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Post by: lala1911 on November 14, 2013, 06:15:43 pm
Q5 was poop. Kotter+social/ethical is a nightmare. Also, for the termination phase part I just wrote about every management style and how they would handle termination :S

Impressed with the 10 marker even though it was a bit challenging, it wasn't a stupid question like I was expecting it to be.
Title: Re: Thoughts on exam?
Post by: lala1911 on November 14, 2013, 06:23:05 pm
I think it was a fair exam! The first two questions of question 1 were a godsend... can't believe VCAA used such easy questions. The only questions that threw me was question 5 regarding kotter's theory and ethical and socially responsibility. As for the 10 mark question, a bit thrown together but I think it provided us with a lot of stimulus to achieve 10 marks!
Really? I didn't even bother reading the stimulus.

Aha. Also loved how they used the exact same questions from past exams (2012, I think?) for contributions to the economy and centralised v decentralised.
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Post by: kennedyj1310 on November 14, 2013, 06:40:42 pm
Really? I didn't even bother reading the stimulus.

Aha. Also loved how they used the exact same questions from past exams (2012, I think?) for contributions to the economy and centralised v decentralised.

Are you talking about the 10 mark question?
I thought the whole point of that was to address the 3 dot points regarding the employment cycle?
How could you answer it by not reading the stimulus?
Title: Re: Thoughts on exam?
Post by: lala1911 on November 14, 2013, 06:47:10 pm
Are you talking about the 10 mark question?
I thought the whole point of that was to address the 3 dot points regarding the employment cycle?
How could you answer it by not reading the stimulus?
Woops I meant that above that part the stimulus wasn't really useful.
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Post by: kennedyj1310 on November 14, 2013, 06:53:49 pm
Woops I meant that above that part the stimulus wasn't really useful.

That makes more sense! :)
Yeah that part of the question really had no use, which was a little bit surprising.

I really enjoyed this exam, straightforward questions of which had plenty of room for discussion.
Any predictions for the A+ cut off?
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Post by: Damoz.G on November 14, 2013, 06:55:31 pm
That makes more sense! :)
Yeah that part of the question really had no use, which was a little bit surprising.

I really enjoyed this exam, straightforward questions of which had plenty of room for discussion.
Any predictions for the A+ cut off?

Because it was so good, I'm thinking A+ Cutoff of 57/65. :)
Title: Re: Thoughts on exam?
Post by: kennedyj1310 on November 14, 2013, 06:58:30 pm
Because it was so good, I'm thinking A+ Cutoff of 57/65. :)

Yeah that sounds pretty fair, although that's almost 10% higher than last years exam.
Is there usually that much variance in A+ marks from each year?
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Post by: nomorecookies on November 14, 2013, 07:04:49 pm
Woops I meant that above that part the stimulus wasn't really useful.

Really? I thought that it said you have to refer to management 'processes' or strategies in all of the dot points provided. E.g. training and development in the maintenance phase, then apply KPI etcetc..
or am i just the weird one LOL
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Post by: kennedyj1310 on November 14, 2013, 07:06:57 pm
Really? I thought that it said you have to refer to management 'processes' or strategies in all of the dot points provided. E.g. training and development in the maintenance phase, then apply KPI etcetc..
or am i just the weird one LOL

No I think you're right, I think Lala meant that there was no specific case study to base the answer upon.
That's what I did anyway!
Title: Re: Thoughts on exam?
Post by: lala1911 on November 14, 2013, 07:08:04 pm
Yes kennedyj1310, not communicating properly here, probably just a bit too excited that I've finished school -finally-.
Yeah, there was no scenario that we had to respond to.
Also yeah I read that cookies.
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Post by: jaz95 on November 14, 2013, 07:15:41 pm
Really? I thought that it said you have to refer to management 'processes' or strategies in all of the dot points provided. E.g. training and development in the maintenance phase, then apply KPI etcetc..
or am i just the weird one LOL

Yeah that is what I was referring to when I said stimulus... the fact that it directly stated to refer to management processes and strategies!
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Post by: EspoirTron on November 14, 2013, 07:19:47 pm
A good exam. I enjoyed it, it was fair and interesting. I felt that the last question was quite accessible and could have been approached in a variety of waves such as purely theoretical, or a combination of both theory and an example from an LSO you have studied.
Title: Re: Thoughts on exam?
Post by: lala1911 on November 14, 2013, 07:22:39 pm
Question 1a was not accessible it was fairly difficult.
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Post by: wweh on November 14, 2013, 07:27:35 pm
The only question that tripped me up was the 6 mark tehnology question, how did you guys approach this?
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Post by: unfamila on November 14, 2013, 07:30:43 pm
Question 1a was not accessible it was fairly difficult.
Are you trolling?
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Post by: soNasty on November 14, 2013, 08:01:01 pm
what did you guys refer to in the question about relaying kotter's to ethical practises??
i mentioned how its a sort of low risk approach to change management and alluded to the whole communication of the vision and institutionalising change to meet expectations etc
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Post by: balmemat on November 14, 2013, 08:01:27 pm
Interesting to see what the assessors report will say about how to go about the 10 marker, I'm sure different people went about it different ways. Struggled to finish in time and probably needed 5-10 more mins, at least I answered every question, even if it was only enough to get 4/6.... Still unsure about Kotter and ESR.
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Post by: French Torst on November 14, 2013, 08:29:54 pm
I believe the indicators were something along the lines of structure? As such, innovation, creativity and flexibility would be prominent in a decentralised structure etc.
Although I was tossing up between writing that and the elements of corporate culture such as symbols and rituals/celebrations. I didn't like this question along with Kotter :s

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Post by: Ram007 on November 14, 2013, 08:34:58 pm
I found it to be easy , straight forward. The first 2 were clearly full marks for everyone. The questions got a bit harder , and the 10 marker I had guessed last night about employment and it was , so happy expecting around a grade of A rather then a B.
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Post by: mynameislachlan on November 14, 2013, 08:55:15 pm
I believe the indicators were something along the lines of structure? As such, innovation, creativity and flexibility would be prominent in a decentralised structure etc.
Although I was tossing up between writing that and the elements of corporate culture such as symbols and rituals/celebrations. I didn't like this question along with Kotter :s

I'm supposedly wrong but I don't understand how.

I defined corporate culture and said it can be official or real. I then began talking about official corporate culture and it's more or less how the public perceives the organisation. Then I began saying that Alice saw the employees as normal, high intelligent people who were satisfied with their job. Although the real corporate culture are the ideas and values prevailing within an organisation and I lines this to the old CEO saying that employees felt he provided no positive feedback and that word in the case study like "under..use" or something which indicates the old CEO acted to autocratically. This means despite the public perceiving the organisation as a positive intelligent workforce, the employees were really not satisfied and did not feel like they were being used to their potential, in which the official culture acts falsely to what the real culture is. Then I said Alice can ensure she does not act with the values or "autocratic" style that was used by the previous CEO to satisfy employees.

How is that wrong I don't understand how indicators are only things like rituals, uniforms, languages etc. I just explained corporate culture and thought two indicators would be the two types of corporate culture and how the two weren't represented between them and linking it to a case study? How!!!
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Post by: mynameislachlan on November 14, 2013, 09:00:59 pm
And also there was a question that said "describe a social and ethical responsibility from each stage in the operations system."

Last time I checked social and ethical responsibilities were two different things and if they are the same they should have said "describe a social or ethical responsibility..," regardless, I was going to do it the normal way, one each, but I kept reading and thinking about it so I basically identified 2 for each and barely described beyond basic characteristics as I ran out of room... So I'm going to get maximum 0 marks for that. I'm so pissed after this exam FUCK.

I legit looked at the exam, laughed, began putting so much detail and writing tonnes at the start and I ran out of time, fucked up so much. If I had unlimited time in exam conditions and that question was corrected, I would have got 100% but now I think I got 65% maximum.
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Post by: academicbulimia on November 14, 2013, 09:32:05 pm
I thought it was a fair exam, nothing out of my expectations which is good haha
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Post by: mynameislachlan on November 14, 2013, 09:37:58 pm
It said each "element" of the operations system not each stage, so you would refer to Inputs, Processes, Outputs

Yeah that is what I meant I still did that but I wasn't asking that
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Post by: Jason12 on November 14, 2013, 09:45:59 pm
I wrote that the type of communication and the level of decision making that employees are involved in is an indicator of the culture. If there is open communication and employees are actively involved in decision making then the culture is positive.
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Post by: Sead4 on November 14, 2013, 09:47:44 pm
Slightly off topic but what do you guys this my study score will be based off:
Overall SAC score 178/200
Proposed exam score 55/65
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Post by: rarara on November 14, 2013, 09:55:57 pm
In regards to the ethical and social responsibility in operations question, how did you relate ethics and SR to outputs, since the output was a travel guide?

Also, do you reckon we had to say what the actual inputs, transformation and output would be for the travel guide?
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Post by: lala1911 on November 14, 2013, 09:57:09 pm
Slightly off topic but what do you guys this my study score will be based off:
Overall SAC score 178/200
Proposed exam score 55/65
hard to tell
Title: Re: Thoughts on exam?
Post by: rarara on November 14, 2013, 10:03:07 pm

Aha. Also loved how they used the exact same questions from past exams (2012, I think?) for contributions to the economy and centralised v decentralised.
It was 2011 exam. I just knew that a question on centralised/decentralised approaches would be on the exam. With 50% of students getting 0/4 marks, how could they not put it in? Will be interesting to see what the marks breakdown is this year.
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Post by: MnB on November 14, 2013, 10:26:30 pm
I wish they had have put some harder questions on for employee relations - centralised vs decentralised is a gimme for four marks
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Post by: MnB on November 14, 2013, 10:28:58 pm
What did people write for the technology question? About the consequences of adopting technology
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Post by: unfamila on November 14, 2013, 10:34:06 pm
Implications I sated were:
*Increased productivity
*May lead to making staff redundant
*New policies may need to be made to regulate staff behaviors
*Training may be needed, new skills required
*May alter the firms structure, chain of command
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Post by: Mr Keshy on November 14, 2013, 11:28:18 pm
The questions that really stumped me was the Kotters one, and actually, the stakeholder one, I couldn't fathom what that keyword meant... until I left the exam room. hahah

I approached the technology one differently, probably wrong. But I simply talked about one implication :\ but went on about it's affect. Something like how using CAD can save money, save resources, save time, make the business seem more environmentally friendly and hence increase profit etc... Don't know how that will pan out!

The evaluate question I'm also a little sceptical about too :)

I'm confident with the 10 marker though which is good!

All in all, definitely a fair exam! :)
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Post by: Ram007 on November 15, 2013, 12:02:45 am
With the social responsibility and ethical part about the operations systems. My teacher told me that you just talk about the inputs, processes and outputs and how the organisation can make it ethical and socially responsible. Example the output was like using recycled packaging, which he said is a correct answer, so I got that right haha. Same for the others and so forth.
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Post by: Mr Keshy on November 15, 2013, 12:38:48 am
With the social responsibility and ethical part about the operations systems. My teacher told me that you just talk about the inputs, processes and outputs and how the organisation can make it ethical and socially responsible. Example the output was like using recycled packaging, which he said is a correct answer, so I got that right haha. Same for the others and so forth.

I actually did something like that for inputs, I suggested using recycled paper for inputs, minimising waste for transformation, and for outputs, I said that the product should benefit the customer and be of high quality so I suggested using quality control to increase the level of quality of the travel guides or something.
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Post by: mynameislachlan on November 15, 2013, 12:42:16 am
I actually did something like that for inputs, I suggested using recycled paper for inputs, minimising waste for transformation, and for outputs, I said that the product should benefit the customer and be of high quality so I suggested using quality control to increase the level of quality of the travel guides or something.

What if you merely listed them.

E.g. Inputs could be sourcing from a socially and ethically responsible supplier and also being diverse in selection within recruitment.

Would something like that suffice it said describe but I listed two of each cause my grammar naziness
Kicked in
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Post by: soNasty on November 17, 2013, 10:42:48 pm
What will 100 scaled sacs and rank 1 with about 60/65 on the exam get me?
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Post by: lala1911 on November 18, 2013, 05:36:04 am
So hard to say, no one actually knows right now, not even the VCAA mathematicians who work out the study scores, but expect 45+.