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Title: Holidays
Post by: SunnyB on December 22, 2013, 07:08:49 pm
Hey Guys, i was wondering what i should do over the holidays to prepare for business management 3/4? do you recommend do the textbook (whole, first few chapters etc..). Any suggestions would deb greatly appreciated.

Thanks in Advance :)
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Only Cheating Yourself on December 22, 2013, 08:15:45 pm
hey, did you receive any 3-4 homework from your school?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: SunnyB on December 22, 2013, 09:06:24 pm
i did, holiday hw, it was just a few sheets, nothing more. Not even read first chapter lol...
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Jason12 on December 23, 2013, 12:55:18 am
You can read the first chapter if you want but I'd recommend reading through the study design and looking through newspapers and online for news about large scale organisations
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Only Cheating Yourself on December 23, 2013, 12:29:43 pm
You can read the first chapter if you want but I'd recommend reading through the study design and looking through newspapers and online for news about large scale organisations

and then do what?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: SunnyB on December 23, 2013, 01:02:48 pm
how much of the textbook do you think i should cover in the holidays to at least maintain and A or A+ throughout the year? I really want a 45+ raw next year and will do anything to get one haha, what will put me in the best position to get one. Obviously hard consistent work will be needed, but what can get me ready for the first sac next year.

Cheers
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Billion on December 23, 2013, 02:59:49 pm
A friend of mine got a 50 in BM, and she didn't do anything throughout the holidays.
BM is one of my relaxed subjects, so I'll just be reading a few chapters, and do some h/w we were given.
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Only Cheating Yourself on December 23, 2013, 03:03:15 pm
A friend of mine got a 50 in BM, and she didn't do anything throughout the holidays.
BM is one of my relaxed subjects, so I'll just be reading a few chapters, and do some h/w we were given.

Hey, do you work on answering or structuring your answers in a particular way?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: SunnyB on December 23, 2013, 03:14:12 pm
Hey, do you work on answering or structuring your answers in a particular way?

lol, its holidays, don't stress on structuring your answers yet mate
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Jason12 on December 23, 2013, 10:40:43 pm
and then do what?

Collect articles for company activity as you can use them as examples in your answers when you cover content later in the year. You can use the study design to find what you will be covering then find that in your textbook and read it.
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Only Cheating Yourself on December 23, 2013, 11:12:31 pm
Collect articles for company activity as you can use them as examples in your answers when you cover content later in the year. You can use the study design to find what you will be covering then find that in your textbook and read it.

what if my teacher doesn't understand the example i use from real the world, so i can even use this on the exam?  And do you recommend this?  So for e.g if a question asks 'What negativity do LSO have to the economy' i could say downsizing ….. and then say e.g last year holden downsized and this affected…… would i get full marks for that?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Blues Fan on December 23, 2013, 11:25:23 pm
Make sure you print off the study design. Read through it and make sure that you know what's coming up ahead and what needs to be covered throughout the year. I would recommend reading the first 2 or 3 chapters and make notes where ever you can. Just skim over it so you have a good understanding.

Like what the other students have said, grab an old scrap book and cut out articles and stick them in. So when it comes to exam time you have all the resources needed.
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Only Cheating Yourself on December 23, 2013, 11:31:48 pm
Make sure you print off the study design. Read through it and make sure that you know what's coming up ahead and what needs to be covered throughout the year. I would recommend reading the first 2 or 3 chapters and make notes where ever you can. Just skim over it so you have a good understanding.

Like what the other students have said, grab an old scrap book and cut out articles and stick them in. So when it comes to exam time you have all the resources needed.

do you think making notes is a good idea before school starts?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Blues Fan on December 23, 2013, 11:38:04 pm
Definitely! You don't have to go over board by making them very detail! If you make notes in the holidays by the time you get to school and have started your first sac you will feel more confident having the knowledge already. Then you can spend more time doing practice sacs and practice exam questions rather than stressing on doing notes in time the the sac.
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: SunnyB on December 24, 2013, 07:23:11 am
get notes from ATARnotes, what do you say about that?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: SunnyB on December 24, 2013, 07:29:37 am
As a minimum, how many chapters of the book and wide reading i should do to get a sufficient headstart by the start of the year?

I have tried getting a headstart before, just to see what it was like, and did this in year 9 with Surds. What tended to happen was that, because having already covered the unit i thought i didn't have to do as much work in class. I think others can relate? you just have that tendency not to do as good as you would've if this UNIT WAS 100% NEW, if you kinda understand me here?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Blues Fan on December 24, 2013, 11:25:38 am
Yes, that tends to be the problem as you become lazy as well since you know that you have already done the work! (Well that happened to me anyway!)

I would say in the holiday do 2 chapters max in this case. You want to be ahead but also not too far that you drive yourself bored. The first chapter should be easy so that shouldn't take too long.
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: SunnyB on December 29, 2013, 07:20:05 pm
Would you reccomend doing questions in 1.1, 1.2 etc or just chapter summary?

Also should I start on making notes per chapter?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: anna.xo on January 02, 2014, 08:58:20 pm
I personally didn't do anything over the holidays to get a headstart. But if you are really keen, then I would say definitely print off the study design and read through it. Lightly read through the textbook just to familiarise yourself with key ideas.

Some tips;
-learn your definitions ! This will be invaluable come exam time.
-read the questions being asked ! You would be surprised how many people just write down memorised answers, which do not directly address the question
-don't leave notes till September school holidays !

Good luck !
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: SunnyB on January 02, 2014, 09:08:34 pm
I personally didn't do anything over the holidays to get a headstart. But if you are really keen, then I would say definitely print off the study design and read through it. Lightly read through the textbook just to familiarise yourself with key ideas.

Some tips;
-learn your definitions ! This will be invaluable come exam time.
-read the questions being asked ! You would be surprised how many people just write down memorised answers, which do not directly address the question
-don't leave notes till September school holidays !

Good luck !

Hey, Thanks for that :)

In regards to the study design, should i print it off, or is a digital copy enough? like on my iPad or comp.

Also, do you recommend me reading through the whole study design, even for all my 6 subjects, or just the first aos for each one, to know what I'm dealing with.
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: anna.xo on January 02, 2014, 10:17:40 pm
Hey, no worries(:
Whatever works best for you, doesn't matter. For me, our teacher gave us a copy of it printed off, which worked well for me. I don't like digital documents, so hard copy stuff works best for me. And I also didn't have access to a computer/technological device 24/7 so a hard copy was more practical for me.
Use whatever you're more likely to find convenient.

For business, what I did was I read through the chapter first. Then I read through the key knowledge points of the study design that related to the chapter I had just read. I then went and reread the chapter and highlighted the information relevant to the study design dot points and made notes from them. Don't make notes by chapter because the chapters have a lot of information that is not important.

Just concentrate on further & business this year, don't worry about your other 4. You'll forget everything you studied this year for them by  next year most likely. I've been told not to bother with study designs for maths, but I don't know if this is the best idea. I would still have a flick through them if I were you, and I will be doing this to. The study designs will be your best friend this year, I promise !
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: SunnyB on January 03, 2014, 09:39:04 am
Hey, no worries(:
Whatever works best for you, doesn't matter. For me, our teacher gave us a copy of it printed off, which worked well for me. I don't like digital documents, so hard copy stuff works best for me. And I also didn't have access to a computer/technological device 24/7 so a hard copy was more practical for me.
Use whatever you're more likely to find convenient.

For business, what I did was I read through the chapter first. Then I read through the key knowledge points of the study design that related to the chapter I had just read. I then went and reread the chapter and highlighted the information relevant to the study design dot points and made notes from them. Don't make notes by chapter because the chapters have a lot of information that is not important.

Just concentrate on further & business this year, don't worry about your other 4. You'll forget everything you studied this year for them by  next year most likely. I've been told not to bother with study designs for maths, but I don't know if this is the best idea. I would still have a flick through them if I were you, and I will be doing this to. The study designs will be your best friend this year, I promise !


ahhh yeap, i see what you did :) thanks, I'm gonna give that a try.

Did you find looking at external sources like media, news papers etc heaped you in busman?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: anna.xo on January 03, 2014, 01:04:51 pm

ahhh yeap, i see what you did :) thanks, I'm gonna give that a try.

Did you find looking at external sources like media, news papers etc heaped you in busman?

No worries(: I hope it works for you !
Yes, and we covered specific organisations in class too. I tended to use the organisations that I studied in class instead of actual examples from the media..however, if you can get your hands on some examples you should definitely use them ! Examples are what seperate your answers from the good to the very good. However, use with caution..don't let an example 'become' your answer.
Looking at real life organisations and linking them back to your answer, especially in the exam, will ensure that you get full marks for a question, as it will not look like you have just written down a rote learned response. However, in saying that, don't stress too much about this, because in most exam questions you will be given a scenario and have to use examples from that ! So yes, if you can find real life examples, by all means go ahead, but if you can't don't stress !
Make sure you know 2 or 3 in great detail though. A popular type question in the exam is 'Using an organisation you have studied this year..'. Our school chose CUB (Carlton united breweries) & Australia Post, so this is what I used..and related it back to almost every question. Ask if you need anything else !
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: SunnyB on January 05, 2014, 08:49:06 pm
No worries(: I hope it works for you !
Yes, and we covered specific organisations in class too. I tended to use the organisations that I studied in class instead of actual examples from the media..however, if you can get your hands on some examples you should definitely use them ! Examples are what seperate your answers from the good to the very good. However, use with caution..don't let an example 'become' your answer.
Looking at real life organisations and linking them back to your answer, especially in the exam, will ensure that you get full marks for a question, as it will not look like you have just written down a rote learned response. However, in saying that, don't stress too much about this, because in most exam questions you will be given a scenario and have to use examples from that ! So yes, if you can find real life examples, by all means go ahead, but if you can't don't stress !
Make sure you know 2 or 3 in great detail though. A popular type question in the exam is 'Using an organisation you have studied this year..'. Our school chose CUB (Carlton united breweries) & Australia Post, so this is what I used..and related it back to almost every question. Ask if you need anything else !

Thats not a bad idea actually. As far as i know, we are doing Yakult and going to the factory.

In regards to holiday hw, should AOS1 be a good start? i will do this thoroughly or at least try to, so i can be ready for the first sac. Since business tends to be a rote learning and content heavy subject i might forget crap if i go ahead haha.

Good idea? any suggestions?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Blues Fan on January 05, 2014, 11:16:27 pm
That seems like a good idea! If you have time, go on the Yakult website and start gathering information on how they produce Yakult. As I also did a sac on it and it took a while to gather information and then having to use it in my practice sacs. That's if you are very keen on starting very early! Good luck.
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Only Cheating Yourself on January 05, 2014, 11:20:16 pm
That seems like a good idea! If you have time, go on the Yakult website and start gathering information on how they produce Yakult. As I also did a sac on it and it took a while to gather information and then having to use it in my practice sacs. That's if you are very keen on starting very early! Good luck.

What information do you look for?  How they impact on the economy, what else?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Blues Fan on January 06, 2014, 10:27:14 pm
Is your school doing The Yakult study case for operations?
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Only Cheating Yourself on January 06, 2014, 10:28:18 pm
Is your school doing The Yakult study case for operations?

nah.
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: freyamay3 on January 11, 2014, 01:19:07 pm
hey!
just thought i could help out with your h/w dilemma, i have a huge booklet that my school business management received, if your interested i could email you the booklet?

anyway! let me know :)

Freya.
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: anna.xo on January 11, 2014, 01:50:19 pm
Sorry, did not check this thread for updates.

But what Bluesgirl has said is spot on, regarding organisations and examples.

My school did CUB for operations and went to the factory, but it is never too late to start preparing notes because this will be your most time consuming activity during the school year, and most of the time you won't have time to just sit and make notes, since they take forever and also with the craziness of your other subjects.

AOS 1 is definitely more than good enough, and yes, it is not a wonderful idea to go too far ahead because this can lead to becoming complacent in class which will negatively affect you and also you will forget things which means that you will have to relearn things, which will just be an overall waste of time. So don't jump too far ahead into the course just yet.

Good luck and all the best !
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: Only Cheating Yourself on January 11, 2014, 02:33:44 pm
Sorry, did not check this thread for updates.

But what Bluesgirl has said is spot on, regarding organisations and examples.

My school did CUB for operations and went to the factory, but it is never too late to start preparing notes because this will be your most time consuming activity during the school year, and most of the time you won't have time to just sit and make notes, since they take forever and also with the craziness of your other subjects.

AOS 1 is definitely more than good enough, and yes, it is not a wonderful idea to go too far ahead because this can lead to becoming complacent in class which will negatively affect you and also you will forget things which means that you will have to relearn things, which will just be an overall waste of time. So don't jump too far ahead into the course just yet.

Good luck and all the best !

Whats there about Holden?  I made a thread but no one seems to know.
Title: Re: Holidays
Post by: anna.xo on January 11, 2014, 02:55:42 pm
Whats there about Holden?  I made a thread but no one seems to know.

Holden had a change in EBA last year. This won't make much sense right now to you but later on in the course you cover 'employee relations' and this example ties in here.
You should be able to google this and find some information about it.