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General Discussion => Sport => General Discussion Boards => Australian Football (AFL) => Topic started by: brenden on September 04, 2014, 01:58:06 pm
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I reckon,
Sydney
Geelong
Richmond
North
What do you think?
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I agree with your predictions, however I think Richmond's winning streak will come to an end this week. Hopefully by now Port understand how much they need to win this week.
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Are you a Port supporter? I'm super keen for that game. Port will want revenge, Richmond will want atonement after last year.
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As a Richmond supporter I'll maintain the same position I've had for the past 10 weeks:
No expectations so no disappointment!
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Are you a Port supporter? I'm super keen for that game. Port will want revenge, Richmond will want atonement after last year.
Nope, I'm a North supporter :) Hopefully Saturday night's game is a good one
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Nope, I'm a North supporter :) Hopefully Saturday night's game is a good one
MY MAN! Are you going to the game?
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if richmond continue how they go, train hard, work hard i can see them making the grand final!
Richmond vs Swans
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MY MAN! Are you going to the game?
Unfortunately not, but will definitely be watching it on tv. I have watched quite a few of their games and every single one frustrated me haha. I'm also interested to see how far they'll actually go, since they are pretty good when they want to be.
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if richmond continue how they go, train hard, work hard i can see them making the grand final!
Richmond vs Swans
I don't think so haha. They'll play Sydney or Freo away, which is a step up from Port. I don't think they'll make the prelim. Good story though!
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Go Port :D.
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Hawthorn by 23
Sydney by 7
North by 5
Port by 30
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Hawthorn by 23
Sydney by 7
North by 5
Port by 30
Serious?!?! Port by 30? I think the Port vs Richmond game will be a close call. Both teams are desperately fighting for a place. Port have been lacking lately and Richmond have won quite a few games in a row now. Like my previous post stated, I think Port will still win (so no arguments there), but the margin I think will be very close (perhaps less than 2 goals).
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Nope, I'm a North supporter :) Hopefully Saturday night's game is a good one
I'm an Essendon supporter and I'm going along on Saturday night. :D Looking forward to the game!
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I'm an Essendon supporter and I'm going along on Saturday night. :D Looking forward to the game!
Great! I really hope for my sake that North don't slip into their old habits again. Last week against Melbourne was a disgusting effort even though they won by 30 points, they should have demolished Melbourne. Either North are getting weaker or Melbourne are getting stronger. Not too sure.
It's times like these where we need Boomer for North. :( I'm sure though our other players can pull it off. Kayne Turner and Mason Wood, both fresh-bloods, have done the club proud so far with their great achievements. They'll be superstars for North in the future.
It's definitely going to be a good game. I'll be watching both the Ess vs NM and Port vs Rich games. Quite interested to see who wins out of both of those games.
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Serious?!?! Port by 30? I think the Port vs Richmond game will be a close call. Both teams are desperately fighting for a place. Port have been lacking lately and Richmond have won quite a few games in a row now. Like my previous post stated, I think Port will still win (so no arguments there), but the margin I think will be very close (perhaps less than 2 goals).
Yes Richmond have nothing to lose and they should be super confident as they're in good form. but Port's best is a lot better than Richmond's best. I just think that at home, Port should beat them easily.
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go cats!
all the games are 50/50 except port should beat richmond
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CARN THE CATS!! The time where stevie j and selwood show Australia why they are living legends.
To impress in these finals, tomahawk and motlop of course. ;)
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.... and the Hawks win the first! Bad luck cats, you guys still have one more opportunity :) What a good game though... anyone else watch it?
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.... and the Hawks win the first! Bad luck cats, you guys still have one more opportunity :) What a good game though... anyone else watch it?
Yep. Hoping Hawkins cops a week and we win, obviously.
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As a Geelong fan, hHawks out played us for most of the game unfortunately. Hawkins and Stevie J just got sucked in by Hawthorn's little mind games which pretty much summed the night.
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The scoreboard was pretty much a tug-o-war most of the match. Back and forth. You know a game is great when that occurs.
I just hope North win tomorrow night and then defeat the Cats (which isn't impossible since we've defeated the top 4 this season). We definitely have the fire power. I can't remember which match it was but I do recall North kicking ~10 goals in 1 quarter to come back and defeat a team..... So it's certainly possible.
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That was one of the most intense games i've watched in a long time! I thought the game was done and dusted at half time... but that comeback!! Wow! North Melbourne win by 2 goals! :D
Edit: Cannot believe the amount of bad sports from Essendon. I know it's the end of their season but really.... Was just reading a few of the comments on Essendon's facebook page.
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That was one of the most intense games i've watched in a long time! I thought the game was done and dusted at half time... but that comeback!! Wow! North Melbourne win by 2 goals! :D
Edit: Cannot believe the amount of bad sports from Essendon. I know it's the end of their season but really.... Was just reading a few of the comments on Essendon's facebook page.
Not gonna lie, I expected our 3rd term on slouchy. Essedon are a bad third quarter side, Morth and Port are the best third quarter sides. We do this a lot haha! Sam Wriggt's best game, Cunnington an absolute legend, Wells all class and some glorious promise from Benny Brown. Say in the cheersquad, my throat is gone. Lucky I'm not tutoring tomorrow. GO NORTH!!!!
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:( :(
Bye Essendon for this year's grand final
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:( :(
Bye Essendon for this year's grand final
You guys put up a damn good fight though, regardless of the current circumstances.. so props to the bombers for that. Now today's match (Port vs Rich) is going to be an interesting one.
What i'm looking forward to is next week's match against Geelong. Brother vs Brother in an elimination. :D
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These finals are basically written in the stars.
Hawthorn vs Sydney grand final. Hawks win by 11. I'll be there :) GO HAWKS.
Prelim:
Sydney will beat Geelong in Preliminary.
Hawks will beat Freo in Preliminary.
This round;
Port Adelaide beat Richmond by 30.
Next round;
Geelong beat North.
Fremantle beat Port.
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Hawthorn vs Sydney grand final. Hawks win by 11. I'll be there :) GO HAWKS.
You're dreaming if you think the Hawks will win. ;)
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Will be at the Cats v Roos game next week! :)
Hope Tigers can cause an upset, that would be quite amusing. Go Tiges!!
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It's a team like the Tigers who deserve a good finals win. They've done an outstanding job this season with so many wins in a row. Port have been lacking lately - let's not forget they were #1 for some time too.
Will be at the Cats v Roos game next week! :)
Hope Tigers can cause an upset, that would be quite amusing. Go Tiges!!
Which one are you? A cat or a roo? :P
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You guys put up a damn good fight though, regardless of the current circumstances.. so props to the bombers for that. Now today's match (Port vs Rich) is going to be an interesting one.
What i'm looking forward to is next week's match against Geelong. Brother vs Brother in an elimination. :D
Yeah kinda called it that Port would come back in second half much to my chagrin I was right..
But such a great game and the crowd of 75k was pretty electric
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It's a team like the Tigers who deserve a good finals win. They've done an outstanding job this season with so many wins in a row.
They so don't deserve to win. They have caused two upsets out of like ten or so straight wins. Incredibly easy run home if you ask me. The recent upset of Sydney was still good but Sydney had their best players out. You're dreaming if you think the Hawks will win. ;)
Hawthorn will win there is no other way around it. They are the best team in the competition. Sure, Sydney is a champion team but we'll beat them. ;D
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They so don't deserve to win. They have caused two upsets out of like ten or so straight wins.
So what? Name another team that's done it this season. Sure it may be an easy run home but the fact is they did it and they've earnt the right to be in the top 8 and thus the finals. You can make all the excuses you like but it doesn't change the fact they're there for a reason.
By the way the game's going, Port are walking all over Richmond. We'll see though. In general Richmond deserve to be in the top 8, but Port is the better team out of the two.
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It's a team like the Tigers who deserve a good finals win. They've done an outstanding job this season with so many wins in a row. Port have been lacking lately - let's not forget they were #1 for some time too.
Which one are you? A cat or a roo? :P
I'm a cat :D :D
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I'm a cat :D :D
dam. I was going to cheer for a moment. It'll be a good rivalry on Friday not only for us trying to claim a victory over you guys since the cats are the only top 5 side we haven't beaten so far this season, but for the Scott brothers too. Do or die!
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Port are taking the piss now...
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Port are taking the piss now...
I feel sorry for Richmond, actually...
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Port are taking the piss now...
It's unbelievable!! Such a massive margin. You could tell by the end of quarter 1 it was all over.
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I am a Richmond supporter and was amazed by the end of today's game. I gave up on believing in Richmond when they were 3-10 (win-loss), but they really intrigued me! Last week's game against Sydney, I was on the edge of my seat, cheering from home - lol! Even though the last 4 times, Port have not had victory against us, I knew that today Richmond were out. However, I did briefly think that winning 10 in a row and coming back from last season's finals series lost would be a possible urge for the tigers. I never thought such a margin would be there! Congrats Port 8) Carn Tigers, 2015 Premiership Season! ;D imo, I reckon Hawks have got this, they should win this year :P
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I only watched the first quarter but it was electrifying! We absolutely smashed it haha :).
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I'm a cat :D :D
Finally a cats fan on atarnotes! i remember during the holidays you followed tennis (aus open) and also likes ivanovic?
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Finally a cats fan on atarnotes! i remember during the holidays you followed tennis (aus open) and also likes ivanovic?
Haha, you are correct! Time flies....
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Haha, you are correct! Time flies....
A Cats and Ivanovic fan! Hey twin ;D
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Mad respect to Tigers nonetheless (3-10 will never be considered a wrecked season again)
Still pissed off about Essendon though :-X
seconded >:(
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A Cats and Ivanovic fan! Hey twin ;D
And a Reus fan too! He would've been the perfect Suarez replacement :( Ah well...
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Got my tickets to Cats/North. So keen >:D
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Got my tickets to Cats/North. So keen >:D
I would go if any of my friends barracked for one of these teams (apart from me).. :( There's always next year I guess :P
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Registered for the ballet for grand final tickets this morning! Can't get prelim tickets however until freo or port win, but 100% will cause of member guarantee. GO HAWKS!
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North Melbourne into the prelims against Swans next week!!!! What a great match that was. Wow!!!!!! The last 10 minutes of the quarter I was literally sitting on the edge of my seat. GO ROOS! :D
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North destroyed us for 3.5 quarters i must say...
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North destroyed us for 3.5 quarters i must say...
It was a great game though. You guys fought back very hard in the last bit.. Was extremely nervous, I must say.
We need to get our act together for next week. No more fumbles. The umpires didn't exactly help our situation either.
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Somehow I want to blame Mackie for that free goal he gave North early on, but in all honesty the Kangas dominated us for 3 quarters of the game. If we had gone through, Sydney would have eaten us.
Hawkins was amazing as per usual! Since the Cats are out, I ship Freo to win it.
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Ross Lyon will never, ever, ever, EVER, ever win a premiership.
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My tips are on Hawthorn to win this grand final. Although, the way North and Port are performing, they have a great chance too! Its gonna be great set of finals next week ;D
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My tips are on Hawthorn to win this grand final. Although, the way North and Port are performing, they have a great chance too! Its gonna be great set of finals next week ;D
You've written off Sydney?
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You've written off Sydney?
Sydney have always been really good throughout the year, so no big change. Hawks are similar but they are doing great with no buddy. North and Port are unusual semi final picks, so kinda keen!
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My tips are on Hawthorn to win this grand final. Although, the way North and Port are performing, they have a great chance too! Its gonna be great set of finals next week ;D
I'm extremely surprised how well North have played - didn't think they would get to where they are now. Very proud. Let's hope it continues (although unlikely - Sydney have their best players ready to go). I have faith they can pull it off, dependent on whether Harvey doesn't have a case to answer via the MRP for that clash with Selwood (looked accidental to me). Go Roos! :D
P.s - anyone who watched the Roos vs Cats game (or went to it for that matter), see John Longmire having a good look in the crowd? :P That's determination coming down interstate just to watch a potential opposing side :) very tactical move
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I'm extremely surprised how well North have played - didn't think they would get to where they are now. Very proud. Let's hope it continues (although unlikely - Sydney have their best players ready to go). I have faith they can pull it off, dependent on whether Harvey doesn't have a case to answer via the MRP for that clash with Selwood (looked accidental to me). Go Roos! :D
mm yeah. Dissapointed that port beat tigers though, really hoped richmond could go far after there epic 9 in a row comeback ;)
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Brent Harvey found not guilty by the AFL Tribunal for the clash with Joel Selwood last friday night. Very happy with that news. The chance for a win has increased. :) Although it's looking like the Swans will win at this stage.
For those who aren't aware and want to read more:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-16/brent-harvey-cleared-by-Tribunal
I know alot of people have differing opinions on what the outcome should have been tonight... so for those that have been following, thoughts?
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I'm okay with the ruling though I would have to say that Joel Selwood giving evidence at the AFL Tribunal was pretty cool!
I was more following the AA Squad this year and I guess this year's squad has been pretty good though a few unlucky ones like Jacobs and Parker (should have replaced Sandilands and Pendlebury [average year]). VC would have been Boak if he wasn't named on the Bench imo.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-16/all-change-for-2014s-all-australians
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I think anyone with an issue on the ruling has probably never played a contact sport in their life. Not even saying this as a North supporter, it just wasn't a suspendable (or even a reportable) offence.
Definitely gained a bit of respect for Joel Selwood! Not one of my favourite players but he sure as hell is tonight, lol!
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Brenden didn't get my Joel Selwood joke on facebook, finals are ruined
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I don't know about either players past other than the medical history in that article, but it all seems pretty legit and fair to me. I'm pretty happy for the guy, missing out on playing in your finals really sucks (even if this means the Bloods will have to push a little harder, but we'll still come out ;) )
Brenden didn't get my Joel Selwood joke on facebook, finals are ruined
I mean, what's the point in even having finals if your friends don't get your jokes?! :P
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News for any Crows supporters out there:
Your coach has just been sacked.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-17/sanderson
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I think anyone with an issue on the ruling has probably never played a contact sport in their life. Not even saying this as a North supporter, it just wasn't a suspendable (or even a reportable) offence.
Definitely gained a bit of respect for Joel Selwood! Not one of my favourite players but he sure as hell is tonight, lol!
He should have been suspended according to the AFL's new fangled policy on head high contact. You can say what you want about whether it 'should' be an offense in a contact sport, but literally everything he did (off the ball, head high, jump into the opponent) is something they're apparently stamping out.
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Definitely gained a bit of respect for Joel Selwood! Not one of my favourite players but he sure as hell is tonight, lol!
He's always been a legend!
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He should have been suspended according to the AFL's new fangled policy on head high contact. You can say what you want about whether it 'should' be an offense in a contact sport, but literally everything he did (off the ball, head high, jump into the opponent) is something they're apparently stamping out.
It wasn't a head high bump, it was a fair bump and their heads touched. I don't even think it's suspendable under the new rule which specify 'forceful contact' for rough conduct.
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It was off the ball, negligent and avoidable. He made head high conduct after jumping off the ground and was thus deserving (IMO) of the 1 week suspension handed down to him under the current interpretation of the rules.
With this being said, I don't entirely mind that his challenge was successful and think that the penalties for similar incidents need to be looked at. Fines rather than suspensions might be a more suitable deterrent for these incidents.
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I think the MRP overall needs a major overhaul. Some of the charges that get laid are ridiculous.
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It was off the ball, negligent and avoidable. He made head high conduct after jumping off the ground and was thus deserving (IMO) of the 1 week suspension handed down to him under the current interpretation of the rules.
With this being said, I don't entirely mind that his challenge was successful and think that the penalties for similar incidents need to be looked at. Fines rather than suspensions might be a more suitable deterrent for these incidents.
It was off the ball but part of the play. You could do that in netball and cop a slap on the wrist. In no way was the play illegitimate. Sure it was avoidable if he wanted to let Selwood get the ball again and tear things up as per usual. Breaking someone's wrist in a tackle is avoidable if you choose not to tackle them. It just wasn't forceful in the sense of reportable offences (even factoring in the head contact/rules). I've literally been hit harder in U14s.
Edit: "I've literally been hit harder in U14s"-- probably explains some things.
Just wanted to note: I'm definitely for protecting heads more than they have been in the past, I'm in no way complaining that the game has "gone soft" like some do.
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I still think the MRP is being more lenient come finals. Completely agree with Phy124, anyway, doesn't matter now, Selwood is and always a legend.
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I still think the MRP is being more lenient come finals. Completely agree with Phy124, anyway, doesn't matter now, Selwood is and always a legend.
Yeah it's pretty hard to see how Tom Hawkins doesn't even get points for his jumper punch. Freo player's spoil looked really sketchy to me, too.
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Even though I support collingwood,
I'm going for port. I hate the hawks and Sydney, wouldn't mind a north melbourne v port adelaide final.
Hawks v sydney would be absolutely epic though, franklin v his old club in a grand final!!
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It was off the ball but part of the play. You could do that in netball and cop a slap on the wrist. In no way was the play illegitimate. Sure it was avoidable if he wanted to let Selwood get the ball again and tear things up as per usual. Breaking someone's wrist in a tackle is avoidable if you choose not to tackle them. It just wasn't forceful in the sense of reportable offences (even factoring in the head contact/rules). I've literally been hit harder in U14s.
Edit: "I've literally been hit harder in U14s"-- probably explains some things.
Just wanted to note: I'm definitely for protecting heads more than they have been in the past, I'm in no way complaining that the game has "gone soft" like some do.
I'm not saying he shouldn't have blocked his path, but rather if someone is stupid enough to jump off the ground and negligently make contact with someones head then they should reap the consequences of their actions. The lack of forceful contact was the reason why I said I didn't entirely mind that his challenge was successful, but I really think it could've gone either way.
As someone who is frequently taken out in off ball incidents, I am well aware that this is part of the game and do not mind it. However, I think that when contact is made to the head it is a different story, irregardless of what body part made contact with the head of the other person. (mentioned this because I've seen many people argue that the charge shouldn't have been laid because it was an accidental head clash)
I still think the MRP is being more lenient come finals. Completely agree with Phy124, anyway, doesn't matter now, Selwood is and always a legend.
Yeah I think it's definitely the case and has been for a long time. The backlash from fans come finals time is much worse than during the home and away season and I'd be extremely surprised if this didn't weigh on sanctioning decisions.
I think the MRP needs to review and more clearly outline the penalties players will face for these incidents regarding on ball/off ball, deliberate/incidental, low force/high force etc. because as it is they are probably too strict.
tl;dr:
-If you jump off the ground and make head high contact - cop it
-MRP get your shit together
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I'm not saying he shouldn't have blocked his path, but rather if someone is stupid enough to jump off the ground and negligently make contact with someones head then they should reap the consequences of their actions. The lack of forceful contact was the reason why I said I didn't entirely mind that his challenge was successful, but I really think it could've gone either way.
As someone who is frequently taken out in off ball incidents, I am well aware that this is part of the game and do not mind it. However, I think that when contact is made to the head it is a different story, irregardless of what body part made contact with the head of the other person. (mentioned this because I've seen many people argue that the charge shouldn't have been laid because it was an accidental head clash)
Yeah I think it's definitely the case and has been for a long time. The backlash from fans come finals time is much worse than during the home and away season and I'd be extremely surprised if this didn't weigh on sanctioning decisions.
I think the MRP needs to review and more clearly outline the penalties players will face for these incidents regarding on ball/off ball, deliberate/incidental, low force/high force etc. because as it is they are probably too strict.
tl;dr:
-If you jump off the ground and make head high contact - cop it
-MRP get your shit together
Yeah fair enough. Probably shouldn't have jumped off the ground but I sort of feel that has more to do with his size than carelessness. A tick against though, for sure. And yeah I totally agree, a head clash is still getting hit in the head. Eg, Nat Fyfe, even though it probably didn't "deserve" a suspension, that was a massive head clash.
Even without the supports going nuts, the MRP themselves probably can't help but be more lenient come finals time (inappropriately of course). I just can't see the Freo guy's spoil getting let off during the home and away season. The only issue I've got with the MRP is the consistency. (Adam Goodes, Lance Franklin, compare Nat Fyfe??) - whatever the rule is, I don't care, so long as everyone can look at an incident and reasonably expect to know what the MRP are going to do about it.
Edit: Can't even focus because of the footy later.
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North Melbourne will beat Sydney they said. Gonna be a close game they said. :-\
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North Melbourne will beat Sydney they said. Gonna be a close game they said. :-\
Hahaha Sydney beens strong throughout the whole season, wasn't much of a surprise!
I hope Port makes it.
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I guess that's what happens when you're a cashed up team. I know that's not really an excuse but it's the reality of it.. They are #1 because they have the cash to throw around and get the best players + to put into their operations.
We did our best, but Sydney were way too good. To even get to a preliminary final is an achievement in itself. :) 2015 here we come.
I would love to see Port win the grand final. Probably unlikely but it'd be a change from the generic grand finals.
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Port robbed
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I kinda wanted Port to win so the grand finals would be different this year. However. if a non-victorian team wins, then the other state would be up them selves and keep reminding us forever. I guess its good that it is hawks vs swans. Come on Hawks ;D
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Port robbed
With the holding the ball call?! I agree
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With the holding the ball call?! I agree
With the holding the ball ????
More like the whole game. The umpiring was shocking. Guess AFL don't want two non-melbourne teams to play it out in the grand final.
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Umpiring looked same both ways, but Port got robbed by a dodgy holding the ball call with 1:30 left 60m out from goal.
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Some dodgy umpiring on both ends (take Roughie not getting a 'holding the man' free kick in the centre circle in the 4th quarter as well as Gunston's 'off the ball' free kick in the first) but really if Port were able to kick straight in the first quarter then they would have won in the end!
Same goes for their 'impact' players too like Wingard + Wines (little impact till very late in the game)...
Looking forward to Brownlow Night on Monday though!
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I had the best seats to the hawks vs port game. I was about to have a heart attack the second the siren went, until it provided some solidarity.
They definitely were not robbed. Hodge tackled him and he made absolutely zero effort to get it out. You may not think about the actual wording of 'holding the ball' as it has become somewhat cliche as to when it is awarded nowadays, but he HELD THE BALL after being tackled and made absolutely no effort.
Umpires were pretty good tonight if you ask me. A few mistakes here and there. First of the four goals in their storm home was a cheap, umpire ridden free.
But my clairvoyant skills provided me well once again within the face of adversity. I guessed the granny once again :D
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My hatred towards Hawthorn just grows :)
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My hatred towards Hawthorn just grows :)
+1 if I could.
Hope Buddy absolutely demolishes them next week.
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Hope Buddy absolutely demolishes them next week.
I honestly reckon this will be most anticipated thing of the grand final - whether Buddy will win this time 'round. As much as I want Swans to win, I reckon it'll be hilarious if Hawthorn win, just because in both recent situations of a Swans vs Hawthorn final, Buddy lost both times.
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How can you hate hawthorn we're an exciting team. What more could you want?
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How can you hate hawthorn we're an exciting team. What more could you want?
WE NEED A CHANGE OF EXCITING TEAMS!!! ;) ;D Haha, I do like hawks but cant stand collingwood, geelong and sydney.
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How can you hate hawthorn we're an exciting team. What more could you want?
I'm a Geelong fan, how can I not? I wish the Kennett curse never died out :( :P
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How can you hate hawthorn we're an exciting team. What more could you want?
Port to win :P. Oh well, we still had an amazing season compared to 2013.
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Matt Priddis congrats! (Wish Ablett wasn't injured)
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Matt Priddis congrats! (Wish Ablett wasn't injured)
That was a shock.. I was hoping that Nat Fyfe didn't win (even though he couldn't).. How embarassing would it have been if he technically "won" it, when he didn't even really deserve that suspension. Aaah
Well done to Matt Priddis though, so glad Ablett didn't win it.
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That was a shock.. I was hoping that Nat Fyfe didn't win (even though he couldn't).. How embarassing would it have been if he technically "won" it, when he didn't even really deserve that suspension. Aaah
Well done to Matt Priddis though, so glad Ablett didn't win it.
Why!! Cause he's such a beast? Comes in 3rd with almost half the season injured. What a beast.
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I love how all the Brownlow medal betting was so tragically wrong.
Like, Robbie Gray didn't even feature in the top I don't know. Priddis was like $41 odds apparently. Selwood did alright, but as favourite? Those punters.
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The bookies are making a lot tonight. Selwood robbed. What is with all those 2's, 1's and none at all?? His game against brisbane, 39 disposals, only 2 votes. It's been a shit year for the cats.
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The bookies are making a lot tonight. Selwood robbed. What is with all those 2's, 1's and none at all?? His game against brisbane, 39 disposals, only 2 votes. It's been a shit year for the cats.
I'm with you there. It wasn't the best year for Sel nor the cats, however he did outplay everyone this season. Deffs should have came 2nd if not 1st. Oh well, we'll bounce back next year.
It's good seeing another face up there getting the brownlow that's for sure.
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/brownlow-medal/perth-students-mathematical-model-to-predict-afl-brownlow-winner-20140922-10k3k1.html
^lol
I'm with you there. It wasn't the best year for Sel nor the cats, however he did outplay everyone this season. Deffs should have came 2nd if not 1st. Oh well, we'll bounce back next year.
It's good seeing another face up there getting the brownlow that's for sure.
To cap off an utterly shit year is if Hawthorn wins on Saturday.
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Matt Priddis winning = SportsBet and other betting companies winning millions