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Title: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 21, 2016, 12:54:59 pm
A copy of the exam is here if you need it!

Multiple Choice:
(http://i.imgur.com/M4Sw7qR.png)

Short Answer
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(http://i.imgur.com/8mTR58E.png)

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Let us know your thoughts on this exam! If you notice any mistakes, please post them below... otherwise, what did you think? Good, bad? Hard? Easy?

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Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 12:55:46 pm
10/10 would not do again thank god i have a good ranking otherwise i would be getting a band 3
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: pughg16 on October 21, 2016, 12:57:23 pm
Can someone please explain how they solved the last question??
That one was a stumper for me....I didn't mind the majority of that exam but still....
MATHS IS OVER!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: Musa on October 21, 2016, 01:12:07 pm
Hard? Best exam of my life
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: RuiAce on October 21, 2016, 01:14:22 pm
Hard? Best exam of my life
Interesting and nice to see someone thinking in the brighter direction :)
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 21, 2016, 01:33:14 pm
Can someone please explain how they solved the last question??
That one was a stumper for me....I didn't mind the majority of that exam but still....
MATHS IS OVER!!!! ;D ;D ;D

Yay it's over! We'll have the answers up soon ;D
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 01:36:48 pm
oh boy this is going to be a disaster
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: RuiAce on October 21, 2016, 01:39:46 pm
oh boy this is going to be a disaster
Take a deep breath...


...and don't look at them if you really don't want to ;)
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 01:40:48 pm
Take a deep breath...


...and don't look at them if you really don't want to ;)

nop i will face my demons, i just want that maths mark in my signature HAHAAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: cjrig on October 21, 2016, 01:41:31 pm
That was the easiest general maths test I've ever done! IMO the CSSA 2016 trials and 2011-2015 past HSC tests were all harder than this years one  :P
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: RuiAce on October 21, 2016, 01:42:56 pm
nop i will face my demons, i just want that maths mark in my signature HAHAAHAHAHAH
Lel up to you :P
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 01:43:52 pm
Lel up to you :P

:p mr/ms actuarial studies
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: RuiAce on October 21, 2016, 01:47:05 pm
:p mr/ms actuarial studies
OH. Crap, I just realised you meant MY signature.

Sorry!! Ahahahahaha...
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 02:16:30 pm
jamon is number 3 in mcq correct? isn't it b cause 1 is a straight line?
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 02:19:37 pm
jamon is number 3 in mcq correct? isn't it b cause 1 is a straight line?

Hey! It certainly could be B. I didn't do General maths (and I mocked up the solution), so if you've learned that the correlation coefficient in that case is only slightly negative (ie. -0.3) than you're probably correct :)

Actually, you're definitely correct, I misunderstood the value of the correlation coefficient. Great job!
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 02:21:41 pm
i think theres also errors in 15

and 19

21 also?
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 02:26:45 pm
i think theres also errors in 15

and 19

21 also?

For 15, do you read the question as being charge 54 cents for ANY PART of the 30 seconds? I read it to mean you pay the 'part' of the 30 seconds that you talk; ie. half of the 54 cents for 15 seconds. I could be wrong in that reading?

For 19, in my stats course, you take the medium value not including the first and medium terms for each quartile. Is it not the same in General Maths?

21 could absolutely be different, I tried looking up how those sorts of tables work but I've never done anything like it. Could you post up your working/solutions for the questions you disagree with?
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: luke100 on October 21, 2016, 02:27:33 pm
Possibly (27) (e) (iii)
Departs Melbourne at 11:30pm which is 5:30pm Dubai Time. Add a 15 hour flight and that's 8:30am Saturday?
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 02:30:04 pm
For 15, do you read the question as being charge 54 cents for ANY PART of the 30 seconds? I read it to mean you pay the 'part' of the 30 seconds that you talk; ie. half of the 54 cents for 15 seconds. I could be wrong in that reading?

For 19, in my stats course, you take the medium value not including the first and medium terms for each quartile. Is it not the same in General Maths?

21 could absolutely be different, I tried looking up how those sorts of tables work but I've never done anything like it. Could you post up your working/solutions for the questions you disagree with?

so the way i did 19 was 54 cents per part 30 seconds or thereof

since theres 2 minutes and 15 seconds

that would equal to 2 minutes and 30 seconds cause part thereof

so 0.54 x 5 = 2.7

for general

the 5 number i think is lowest extreme, q1, median, q3, and highest extreme

for the mean one you use your calculator and use class centers
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 02:31:00 pm
Possibly (27) (e) (iii)
Departs Melbourne at 11:30pm which is 5:30pm Dubai Time. Add a 15 hour flight and that's 8:30am Saturday?

For sure; I someone added two hours somewhere when I did my flight time! Should read 8:30am, not 10:30am :) Well spotted! Keep em coming people, you're the experts!
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 02:32:17 pm
so the way i did 19 was 54 cents per part 30 seconds or thereof

since theres 2 minutes and 15 seconds

that would equal to 2 minutes and 30 seconds cause part thereof

so 0.54 x 5 = 2.7

for general

the 5 number i think is lowest extreme, q1, median, q3, and highest extreme

for the mean one you use your calculator and use class centers

Look, that sounds right to me! I think I just read Q15 differently, but you're likely right. Would you say 19 is A?
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 02:34:11 pm
Look, that sounds right to me! I think I just read Q15 differently, but you're likely right. Would you say 19 is A?

yup since there's 9 numbers

2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 8, 9, 12

median would be 5 since its the middle number

q1 would be 3+3/2 = 3

q3 would be 8+9/2 = 8.5
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 02:35:31 pm
yup since there's 9 numbers

2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 8, 9, 12

median would be 5 since its the middle number

q1 would be 3+3/2 = 3

q3 would be 8+9/2 = 8.5

Ah cool cool, happy to accept that! Sorry about that, I've just learned it a bit differently in my University course. Sounds like you absolutely smashed the exam!
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 02:36:19 pm
Ah cool cool, happy to accept that! Sorry about that, I've just learned it a bit differently in my University course. Sounds like you absolutely smashed the exam!

hell no i did not smash the exam im calculating my marks right now haha!
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Shaye1998 on October 21, 2016, 02:37:37 pm
In question 22 of the multiple choice, each line in the box and whisker plots represents 1/4 of the data. So that means you find 1/4 of 112 = which is 28. In geography we can see that 1/2 of the class got above 30 (1/4+1/4) and seeing as they say there is the same amount that got above 30 it must mean that answer is (C) 56 ( 2 * 28 = 56) hope you get it you might be able to word it better.
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 02:39:27 pm
In question 22 of the multiple choice, each line in the box and whisker plots represents 1/4 of the data. So that means you find 1/4 of 112 = which is 28. In geography we can see that 1/2 of the class got above 30 (1/4+1/4) and seeing as they say there is the same amount that got above 30 it must mean that answer is (C) 56 ( 2 * 28 = 56) hope you get it you might be able to word it better.

That definitely makes sense! Not an easy question at all, great job getting it!
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: car1i on October 21, 2016, 02:41:46 pm
hey I'm 99% sure that question 15 is D not C
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 02:43:16 pm
hey I'm 99% sure that question 15 is D not C

Yep, after having a think about it we'll be changing that right now! Great spot
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 02:44:14 pm
Yep, after having a think about it we'll be changing that right now! Great spot

sorry if we look ungrateful for your answers, were just very anxious :(
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 02:45:36 pm
sorry if we look ungrateful for your answers, were just very anxious :(

Aha no you don't seem ungrateful at all! There were always going to be mistakes; I was relying on students like you to pick them up. Seriously, thanks for your contribution, and feel free to drop in any more!
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 02:46:47 pm
Aha no you don't seem ungrateful at all! There were always going to be mistakes; I was relying on students like you to pick them up. Seriously, thanks for your contribution, and feel free to drop in any more!

:)

anyways for question 29 b ii

wouldnt the percentage be 10% increase?
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: green-jake on October 21, 2016, 02:52:02 pm
Would Q25 of the MC not be D??
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: stephanieazzopardi on October 21, 2016, 02:52:23 pm
For 15, do you read the question as being charge 54 cents for ANY PART of the 30 seconds? I read it to mean you pay the 'part' of the 30 seconds that you talk; ie. half of the 54 cents for 15 seconds. I could be wrong in that reading?

For 19, in my stats course, you take the medium value not including the first and medium terms for each quartile. Is it not the same in General Maths?

21 could absolutely be different, I tried looking up how those sorts of tables work but I've never done anything like it. Could you post up your working/solutions for the questions you disagree with?

For 15: I think the answer is D.. You get charged every 30 seconds so if you're 15 seconds into your 30 seconds they'll just charge you the full 54c. I think anyway :)
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 02:53:07 pm
Would Q25 of the MC not be D??

i put that aswell o.o
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 02:54:51 pm
:)

anyways for question 29 b ii

wouldnt the percentage be 10% increase?

You're definitely right: I did the right working out, but put down the wrong answer!
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Shaye1998 on October 21, 2016, 02:56:04 pm
In question 22 of the multiple choice, each line in the box and whisker plots represents 1/4 of the data. So that means you find 1/4 of 112 = which is 28. In geography we can see that 1/2 of the class got above 30 (1/4+1/4) and seeing as they say there is the same amount that got above 30 it must mean that answer is (C) 56 ( 2 * 28 = 56) hope you get it you might be able to word it better.
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 02:57:16 pm
also for the time one

we're going from melbourne which is further east than dubai

so wouldnt we essentially be going back in time by 21 hours? making it 2:30am friday

im not 100% on this one
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 02:57:41 pm
Would Q25 of the MC not be D??

It definitely should be! I wrote D when I mocked up the answer... don't know what happened there. Maybe a copy/paste error
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Bzenere on October 21, 2016, 02:59:39 pm
Wouldn't 28. e) (ii) be 193cm, there's only 6 gaps, not 8.
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Hayden776 on October 21, 2016, 03:00:08 pm
Please review Q25 again.
It is stated that  angle BCA is abtuse which is greater then 90.
Therefore angle ABC can be a max of 65.
Therefore angle OBC must me atleast 115.

Also 28eii,
I believe you have miss calculated it. The answer I got is 193cm^3. 
You made each corner 4.05cm^3 and there is 24 corners then times 2 for the layers =193.2cm^3
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 03:01:05 pm
Wouldn't 28. e) (ii) be 193cm, there's only 6 gaps, not 8.

i rounded it off to 194 fuckckckckckckckckckckc noooooooo
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 03:01:48 pm
Wouldn't 28. e) (ii) be 193cm, there's only 6 gaps, not 8.

For sure, 6 gaps not 8! I'll change that now
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: studybuddy7777 on October 21, 2016, 03:02:34 pm
OH MY WOWS. That exam.
Overall I think I did okay, but the damn cake question!! Could not workthat out for the life of me!! And the 5 marker about the playground! Wow!

Then you go to questions - 2 coins a flipped whats the chance that one is heads one is tails and I am just like **facepalm** this could be done by a primary kid.

A very inconsistent exam, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 03:04:44 pm
Please review Q25 again.
It is stated that  angle BCA is abtuse which is greater then 90.
Therefore angle ABC can be a max of 65.
Therefore angle OBC must me atleast 115.

Also 28eii,
I believe you have miss calculated it. The answer I got is 193cm^3. 
You made each corner 4.05cm^3 and there is 24 corners then times 2 for the layers =193.2cm^3

Hey Hayden! Thanks for the post, and welcome to the forums; I think we've already fixed both of these issues, but let me know if we haven't! I smashed out the answers so quickly that issues were always going to arise, congratulations on spotting them! Also, I have to say, the method you used to answer that angle question is really, really nice,
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 03:05:52 pm
question 27 interquartile

i got 36 because

q3 = 172 and q1 = 136
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 03:07:05 pm
question 27 interquartile

i got 36 because

q3 = 172 and q1 = 136

Hey! Seems like our answers are only 1cm off; Because I was reading the paper off my computer, it was harder to see exactly where the lines on the graph were. You'd get the mark either way!
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: studybuddy7777 on October 21, 2016, 03:09:21 pm
Can someone explain Q17? It says how much compound interest is she charged, not the total amount charged? Wouldn't it be A (or B, not sure lol but -780 the one you have)

I might have more questions yet so dont go too far! :D
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: youknowwho on October 21, 2016, 03:10:01 pm
for 30 c) why is it 1767-997, that shape was a triangle so wouldn't it be  1/2 X 45 X 45 X sin100
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 03:10:14 pm
Can someone explain Q17? It says how much compound interest is she charged, not the total amount charged? Wouldn't it be A (or B, not sure lol but -780 the one you have)

I might have more questions yet so dont go too far! :D

Yep, the answer is B! Check the answers on the first page :)
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 03:11:28 pm
Hey! Seems like our answers are only 1cm off; Because I was reading the paper off my computer, it was harder to see exactly where the lines on the graph were. You'd get the mark either way!

also is 28a 4/37 because 33 silver coins were picked with 4 gold coins meaning theres a total of 37 coins?
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 03:12:13 pm
also is 28a i put 4/37 because 33 silver coins were picked with 4 gold coins meaning theres a total of 37 coins?

You are absolutely right. Far out. I was 100% tricked by that; will change now. Great spot!
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Hayden776 on October 21, 2016, 03:15:09 pm
Hey Hayden! Thanks for the post, and welcome to the forums; I think we've already fixed both of these issues, but let me know if we haven't! I smashed out the answers so quickly that issues were always going to arise, congratulations on spotting them! Also, I have to say, the method you used to answer that angle question is really, really nice,

Thanks mate,
It's pretty hard to do some questions in the exam without a calculate so you learn to take new approaches 😊
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 03:16:01 pm
Thanks mate,
It's pretty hard to do some questions in the exam without a calculate so you learn to take new approaches 😊

Ahahahahhahahaahah absolutely stellar job
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Hayden776 on October 21, 2016, 03:19:06 pm
Ahahahahhahahaahah absolutely stellar job

Thanks,  I just mark myself and I'm looking at about 85%+

   
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: christopherk8 on October 21, 2016, 03:19:31 pm
heyyyyy everyone that was a great exam....i just went through your answers and i have a few questions:
- i am 99% sure question 21 is D
- and question 23 is also D
thats according to my calculations anyways...i can send my working if u want
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: lydia argent on October 21, 2016, 03:20:56 pm
Wouldnt question 7 be A and not B as categorical nominal is the one you can't put in order e.g dog, cat, rabbit, and categorical ordinal is the one you can put in order e.g small medium large ?

And for question 26.) b, wouldnt the answer be
1x over 3y to the power of -4 and not 1x over 3y to the power of 4 ? As you were supposed to do 1-5 to the y's power and not 5-1, because y to the power of 1 is at the top and y to the power of 5 is the denominator?

Just really curious cause thats what i put in for my answers :)
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 03:22:10 pm
heyyyyy everyone that was a great exam....i just went through your answers and i have a few questions:
- i am 99% sure question 21 is D
- and question 23 is also D
thats according to my calculations anyways...i can send my working if u want

Hey! 21 definitely may be D, I have no idea how to do those kinds of questions. As for 23, I think that's debatable; I understood the question to be a smoker OR male, not male AND a smoker. So, you take the probability of being a male non-smoker and a female-smoker. Really not sure what they intended with that question, but I went with a strict reading of OR.
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 03:22:34 pm
heyyyyy everyone that was a great exam....i just went through your answers and i have a few questions:
- i am 99% sure question 21 is D
- and question 23 is also D
thats according to my calculations anyways...i can send my working if u want

isnt it 68+88+176 divided by 485 = 68%?
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Luke Golding on October 21, 2016, 03:23:23 pm
(just to clarify, I'm not saying im right pls correct if wrong ty)

For 36e, would you not have to add four weeks pay on top of the holiday loading?

28eii. are you sure that's right? I got (10x15x3)-(pi x 2.5^2 x 3) x 12 = 193cm^3 - correct me if im wrong thanks !!

30bii. for this question, shouldnt it be [3072 x 1024 x 1024]/8 --> then with that you divide by 1000 x 1000 to get it to mb instead of MB, and then also shouldn't you divide what you get from that by /7 and then by /60 to get it to minutes? so the answer should be like 1mbps i think

are these wrong or right, im pretty sure they're right tho
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 03:24:22 pm
Wouldnt question 7 be A and not B as categorical nominal is the one you can't put in order e.g dog, cat, rabbit, and categorical ordinal is the one you can put in order e.g small medium large ?

And for question 26.) b, wouldnt the answer be
1x over 3y to the power of -4 and not 1x over 3y to the power of 4 ? As you were supposed to do 1-5 to the y's power and not 5-1, because y to the power of 1 is at the top and y to the power of 5 is the denominator?

Just really curious cause thats what i put in for my answers :)

For 7, again I'm not sure; this isn't something I've studied in depth, and a quick google made me think the answer was small/medium/large. If we get some general consensus, I'll change the answer!

As for 26 b), y to the negative 4 is the same as one on y to the four! So our answers are actually the same :)

Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 03:25:35 pm
(just to clarify, I'm not saying im right pls correct if wrong ty)

For 36e, would you not have to add four weeks pay on top of the holiday loading?

28eii. are you sure that's right? I got (10x15x3)-(pi x 2.5^2 x 3) x 12 = 193cm^3 - correct me if im wrong thanks !!

30bii. for this question, shouldnt it be [3072 x 1024 x 1024]/8 --> then with that you divide by 1000 x 1000 to get it to mb instead of MB, and then also shouldn't you divide what you get from that by /7 and then by /60 to get it to minutes? so the answer should be like 1mbps i think

are these wrong or right, im pretty sure they're right tho

i did somethign similar for the cake one

15x10x6-6xPiex2.5^2x6 = 193
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 03:26:25 pm
(just to clarify, I'm not saying im right pls correct if wrong ty)

For 36e, would you not have to add four weeks pay on top of the holiday loading?

28eii. are you sure that's right? I got (10x15x3)-(pi x 2.5^2 x 3) x 12 = 193cm^3 - correct me if im wrong thanks !!

30bii. for this question, shouldnt it be [3072 x 1024 x 1024]/8 --> then with that you divide by 1000 x 1000 to get it to mb instead of MB, and then also shouldn't you divide what you get from that by /7 and then by /60 to get it to minutes? so the answer should be like 1mbps i think

are these wrong or right, im pretty sure they're right tho

Re 36e), I genuinely don't know, I've never done a question like that before in maths so if that's the standard thing you do in General Maths then maybe you're right! If we get some consensus, I'll reassess the question.

For 28e ii, you're definitely right, and that's being changed as we speak.

For your last remark, I used google to get my answer. I used it to convert from MB to Mbits or whatever, so I sort of trust what it told me. However, again, if a couple people agree, I'll look at it again.
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: christopherk8 on October 21, 2016, 03:37:25 pm
Hey! 21 definitely may be D, I have no idea how to do those kinds of questions. As for 23, I think that's debatable; I understood the question to be a smoker OR male, not male AND a smoker. So, you take the probability of being a male non-smoker and a female-smoker. Really not sure what they intended with that question, but I went with a strict reading of OR.
i think i know what u mean.....i just thought that the probability of being a smoker OR male meant prob of being smoker (male and female=156) PLUS the prob of being male (264). :) :)
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 03:39:42 pm
i think i know what u mean.....i just thought that the probability of being a smoker OR male meant prob of being smoker (male and female=156) PLUS the prob of being male (264). :) :)

For sure, and I don't think we'll know what BOSTES was going for until they release solutions. Ah well, let's hope you're right

QUICK NOTE: I did 4U maths, so I thought I would be fine answering the General Paper. Looks like I may have been wrong.... great job to everyone on here for getting through what appears to be a difficult course! If you have any further corrections, hit 'reply' and let me know what you think!
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 03:40:33 pm
For sure, and I don't think we'll know what BOSTES was going for until they release solutions. Ah well, let's hope you're right

QUICK NOTE: I did 4U maths, so I thought I would be fine answering the General Paper. Looks like I may have been wrong.... great job to everyone on here for getting through what appears to be a difficult course! If you have any further corrections, hit 'reply' and let me know what you think!

did you ever reply to the time one? whats the correct answer for melbourne and dubai
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: green-jake on October 21, 2016, 03:41:18 pm
Pretty sure of 26e) you need to add both 4 weeks usual pay and the 17.5% annual leave aswell???
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: s-19543 on October 21, 2016, 03:43:37 pm
OH MY WOWS. That exam.
Overall I think I did okay, but the damn cake question!! Could not workthat out for the life of me!! And the 5 marker about the playground! Wow!

Then you go to questions - 2 coins a flipped whats the chance that one is heads one is tails and I am just like **facepalm** this could be done by a primary kid.

A very inconsistent exam, in my opinion.

Well some people may have been confused as to whether or not you do 1/2 ( as it would've been too obvious for a hsc question) I know people (including myself) that did 1/2 x 1/2 = 1/4, which may have thrown people off so it just depends on how one interrupts under the pressure of exam conditions. Yes it may have been easy but no need to put people down by saying "it could be done by a primary kid". I don't want to start anything but just understand that people may have been thrown off a bit due to stress ( like myself)
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Luke Golding on October 21, 2016, 03:44:25 pm
Oh another thing,

for 29eii, im pretty sure you actually have to find the gradient; (y2-y1/x2-x1) so like {(1900,60) (1980,80)} - (80-60/1980-1900) = 0.25

and then i commented "the gradient increases at a linear rate of 0.25, meaning that life expectancy increases by 3 months every year." (3 months because 0.25 x 12)

I think that's right, idk correct me if im wrong
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 03:46:47 pm
Oh another thing,

for 29eii, im pretty sure you actually have to find the gradient; (y2-y1/x2-x1) so like {(1900,60) (1980,80)} - (80-60/1980-1900) = 0.25

and then i commented "the gradient increases at a linear rate of 0.25, meaning that life expectancy increases by 3 months every year." (3 months because 0.25 x 12)

I think that's right, idk correct me if im wrong

i wrote that for every year your born later, your life expectancy increases by 0.25
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jakesilove on October 21, 2016, 03:48:31 pm
Oh another thing,

for 29eii, im pretty sure you actually have to find the gradient; (y2-y1/x2-x1) so like {(1900,60) (1980,80)} - (80-60/1980-1900) = 0.25

and then i commented "the gradient increases at a linear rate of 0.25, meaning that life expectancy increases by 3 months every year." (3 months because 0.25 x 12)

I think that's right, idk correct me if im wrong

That definitely looks perfect! I didn't think you needed to find the gradient, but that doesn't matter; you definitely got full marks :)
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: christopherk8 on October 21, 2016, 03:49:26 pm
see for the taxation question.....
if my answer for the first section is wrong BUT by using that wrong answer, my working out was correct for the following questions....will i lose marks on the whole question or just that top part
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Luke Golding on October 21, 2016, 03:50:11 pm
i wrote that for every year your born later, your life expectancy increases by 0.25

yeah im pretty sure that's right, but idk; anyway this guy is doing really well in general for a 4u student, i coulda guessed there'd be a few mistakes, but idk i might be wrong i dont wanna jump the gun
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 03:51:35 pm
yeah im pretty sure that's right, but idk; anyway this guy is doing really well in general for a 4u student, i coulda guessed there'd be a few mistakes, but idk i might be wrong i dont wanna jump the gun

thats general for you, you never know what you have to go through until you actually do it
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Luke Golding on October 21, 2016, 03:55:11 pm
alright fuck me one more haha sorry,

for 29c, it should be (i think, AGAINNN correct me if im wrong) something along the lines [for 3 marks]

"Pat's claims are correct, the women have a higher median of 55 (i think i dont remember the number soz ceebs doing again) as opposed to the 45 of the males, illustrating that there are more women likely to be older in the class than the males. The men's data is also being positively skewed, moving their mean up, as opposed to the negative skew on the women, having their data dragged down by the younger people. The skewness represents the older age of the women, and the younger age of the men, having most of them being central to the lower aged median."

thats kinda what i wrote
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: janbroodryk on October 21, 2016, 03:56:33 pm
Hey guys! I realised I got a couple questions wrong. Do you know if its a 3 mark question and we put in the wrong value but work it out correctly and get the wrong answer how many marks we get? Is it a automatic 0 or do you get 1 or 2/3 ?? Im really worried
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: sophgeorge on October 21, 2016, 03:57:13 pm
i did somethign similar for the cake one

15x10x6-6xPiex2.5^2x6 = 193

i think 193 is correct, i got that too
i still think 23 in mc should be D, 30b ii) should be 61mbps, still unsure about 29b) i got 9.09% ??
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: car1i on October 21, 2016, 04:23:21 pm
So I worked out so far I've got 97% ;D a little annoyed that the answers I got wrong were simple question though (q1 q19 and q.23)
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: mmmm675 on October 21, 2016, 04:29:14 pm
hello! sorry to be a hassle but for Q7, wouldn't it be A, as nominal is when order is not indicated & i feel that B indicates order as small->medium->large? sorry if i'm wrong, just thought i'd check & thanks for all your answers, it's very much appreciated (:
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 04:38:25 pm
hello! sorry to be a hassle but for Q7, wouldn't it be A, as nominal is when order is not indicated & i feel that B indicates order as small->medium->large? sorry if i'm wrong, just thought i'd check & thanks for all your answers, it's very much appreciated (:

yeah i put a aswell
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: mmmm675 on October 21, 2016, 04:50:19 pm
hello! sorry just one more thing, with question 23, would it be d) 87%? since it's smoker OR male, doesn't OR = +, so then 156/485 + 264/485 = 420/485 = 86.5979%? sorry i might be wrong, i just wanted to get some feedback was all (: thanks again for your answers
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: aimbotted on October 21, 2016, 05:28:11 pm
hello! sorry just one more thing, with question 23, would it be d) 87%? since it's smoker OR male, doesn't OR = +, so then 156/485 + 264/485 = 420/485 = 86.5979%? sorry i might be wrong, i just wanted to get some feedback was all (: thanks again for your answers

i wouldnt think so because it doesnt designate an order? but you could be correct
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Nick-Bradbury on October 21, 2016, 06:16:00 pm
The answer to Question 28) c) ii) made me laugh SO MUCH AHAHAHA
;D ;D


Also, Question 30) b) ii), I think you forgot to convert it to seconds! You did 3072MB/7Minutes, rather than 3072MB/420Seconds (other wise your file would be dowloaded in 7 seconds, rather than the 7 minutes he wants! :D

Also thank you so much to those here who worked hard to bring us the test papers and answers so quickly!!!
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Sa1998 on October 21, 2016, 06:17:50 pm
HEYYY
Q7 is A
We have a very similar example in the text book and I also just confirmed with my teacher
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Sa1998 on October 21, 2016, 06:22:43 pm
 And for 23 is it not 87% which is d
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: UltraLord on October 21, 2016, 06:33:42 pm
For Q. 26 e) shouldn't it be 1.175*4904 = 5762.2 - because its the pay for the 4 weeks+loading, not just the loading
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: UltraLord on October 21, 2016, 06:41:12 pm
And for 23 is it not 87% which is d

No because if you go: 156+264 - you are counting the 88 male smokers twice.
So you can go: (156+264-88)/485, or you can do 1-153(femal non-smokers)/485
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Syndicate on October 21, 2016, 07:34:44 pm
For Q. 26 e) shouldn't it be 1.175*4904 = 5762.2 - because its the pay for the 4 weeks+loading, not just the loading

I believe Jake may have made a mistake (and forgot to add the loading to the 4 week salary). As leave loading "is money paid to a person on top of their normal pay".

Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Lillies on October 21, 2016, 09:22:14 pm
In question 7, is (A) the right answer? It has more than two groups and cannot be ordered at all?
Just wondering :)
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: careyw16 on October 22, 2016, 04:33:47 pm
Wouldnt question 7 be A and not B as categorical nominal is the one you can't put in order e.g dog, cat, rabbit, and categorical ordinal is the one you can put in order e.g small medium large ?

And for question 26.) b, wouldnt the answer be
1x over 3y to the power of -4 and not 1x over 3y to the power of 4 ? As you were supposed to do 1-5 to the y's power and not 5-1, because y to the power of 1 is at the top and y to the power of 5 is the denominator?

Just really curious cause thats what i put in for my answers :)

I agree, I did A for Question 7, I believe categorical nominal doesn't have any values attached, whereas ordinal means categories have meaning/value (e.g. star rating of a motel)
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: catgreaves on October 22, 2016, 09:32:16 pm
Im confused. For Q7 in the multiple choice, isn't the answer A? Small, medium and large are ordinal not nominal
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: jamonwindeyer on October 23, 2016, 01:55:20 am
Hey all; I'm getting a pretty resounding feeling that the answer for Question 7 needs to be changed to A. I'll get this confirmed with Jake and I'm sure he'll fix it up ASAP! :)
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: SudhiTheBoat on October 26, 2016, 06:42:38 pm
Hey everyone, quick question.
For Q26e: Rather than dividing Jenny's yearly salary by 52 to find her weekly pay, wouldn't it be more accurate divide it by 365 and then times it by 7 to find her weekly pay? I'm saying this because there isn't exactly 52 weeks in a year, whereas there is exactly 365 days in a year (well assumedly).

I divided it by 52 originally and got the answer you posted, but then changed my answer to divide it by 365 and then times it by 7x4 to find an accurate monthly payment.

Hope that makes sense. The answers are very similar, but they are different.
Title: Re: Suggested Answers to the HSC 2016 General Maths Exam (+ Exam Discussion!)
Post by: Blocky27 on October 26, 2016, 08:57:29 pm
I'm certain that 30b ii is wrong. It seems everyone I have talked to didn't know that a megabit does not equal a megabyte. So my working out looked like this.

((3072/7)/60) to get MB per second needed. ANS x 1024 x 1024 x 8 = 61356675.6571 (bit per second needed) divide by 1 million to get Mbps.

= 61mbps
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: bubblegumma32 on November 18, 2016, 11:19:34 am
Im stuck on question 30 b (ii) i didn't get the working out

For the last question d (ii) the question mentioned 'solve it simultaneously' which meant you solve it using simultaneous equation

i think i did the same thing in the exam for question 30 b (ii) i did ANS x 1024 x 1024 x 8 divide by 1 000 000 i not sure if it correct

Mod Edit: Posts merged, try not to double post! :)
Title: Re: Mathematics General 2 - Exam Discussion
Post by: RuiAce on November 18, 2016, 01:44:18 pm
Im stuck on question 30 b (ii) i didn't get the working out

For the last question d (ii) the question mentioned 'solve it simultaneously' which meant you solve it using simultaneous equation

i think i did the same thing in the exam for question 30 b (ii) i did ANS x 1024 x 1024 x 8 divide by 1 000 000 i not sure if it correct

Mod Edit: Posts merged, try not to double post! :)
You're probably right for b) (ii)
I think Jake also forgot to divide another 60 to cater for 7 minutes = 420 seconds

However for d) (ii), he did solve it simultaneously. Clearly, he obtained the answers s=10, x̄=64.

I don't see how he could've gotten that solution without solving it simultaneously.