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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: squance on November 23, 2009, 05:01:37 pm

Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: squance on November 23, 2009, 05:01:37 pm
Looks like it unless we apply for an exemption (but I don't have a good reason for exemption >.<)
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on November 23, 2009, 05:03:41 pm
When do we get the results then? :( :(
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: asa.hoshi on November 23, 2009, 05:12:42 pm
OMG is it really true? this is funny. i heard there are posters around uni abt this! howcome is not said about it on the university home page or the portal?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: squance on November 23, 2009, 05:14:45 pm
I only found out about it through an email from the Student Union (and emails from the Student Union are only sent to Student Union members)
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: asa.hoshi on November 23, 2009, 05:17:37 pm
oh my. i wonder how they can block our results?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 23, 2009, 05:19:56 pm
Sorry, but I don't get this.  Is there some sort of strike or something that is preventing universities from releasing exam results?  Can someone please explain?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: xXNovaxX on November 23, 2009, 05:24:35 pm
That's so unfair! They attack where it hurts most!
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Noblesse on November 23, 2009, 05:37:56 pm
Sigh.

-_-
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: dcc on November 23, 2009, 05:43:55 pm
Can anyone who is a union member post the email here? Thanks.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: squance on November 23, 2009, 05:47:56 pm
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Dear Student Union Members,

Last week, University of Melbourne staff voted to implement bans on the transmission of results.

This is due to the refusal of the University senior management to seriously negotiate with staff to address excessive workloads, reduce student-staff ratios and increase job security for casual academics and tutors.

UMSU supports university staff and endorses the results ban.

Teaching quality, over-crowded class rooms and tutor availability outside of class times are all serious issues that can be fixed by a decision of the University to treat staff concerns seriously.

The results ban could mean that your results will be delayed.

In order to ensure that no student suffers disadvantage, the NTEU (staff union) and UMSU (student union) have created an exemptions committee.

If you believe you will suffer serious harm or disadvantage, you can apply for an exemption from the ban. One of your student representatives will be sitting on the exemption committee, and their information will be made available in the next couple of days if you would like more information, or would like to get in contact with them.

Please visit: http://universitybargaining.com.au/students/Melbourne/ for more information.

More information about the exemptions committee and the results bans will be made available on that website.

Yours sincerely,

Carla Drakeford

President

UMSU
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Noblesse on November 23, 2009, 05:50:04 pm
I wonder if there is a maximum amount of time they can block them for...
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on November 23, 2009, 05:50:48 pm
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There is no intention to cause any serious harm to students

WTF. No intention my ass. I've had it up to here with these f*&^ing unions.

This year I tried to go to the uni with people barricading the entrance and shoving me papers and trying to stop me from going to classes that I (with HECS) pay for.

Can they explain why they are doing this?

Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: AppleThief on November 23, 2009, 05:53:38 pm
Can they explain why they are doing this?
It explains it in the email TinyApple kindly quoted.
Title: Results Ban
Post by: squance on November 23, 2009, 05:54:41 pm
http://universitybargaining.com.au/2009/11/result-bans-are-now-on/

Arrgh.
WHY?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: xXNovaxX on November 23, 2009, 05:55:00 pm
Just wondering, is the concern they raise about staff THAT bad?

Like being  a prestigious, and I assume wealthy University, is there really over-crowding? Too many students in a class? But hasn't that been going on for DECADES? i.e. lecture rooms of 100+ people?

I sympathise with them about job security, especially during these times, and always hearing how "x" uni has stood down dozens of staff etc. But yeah, is it all just nonsense?

=S
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: ninwa on November 23, 2009, 05:56:55 pm
Those unions are stupid. Good luck getting support when you're pissing that many people off...
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on November 23, 2009, 05:57:29 pm
Does that mean we don't get results on 11th (or 10th)?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Noblesse on November 23, 2009, 05:58:18 pm
Like being  a prestigious, and I assume wealthy University, is there really over-crowding? Too many students in a class? But hasn't that been going on for DECADES? i.e. lecture rooms of 100+ people?

Never had trouble getting a seat...anywhere. Although I do the popular 1st year subjects (eg. accounting subjects), they run the lectures like 3-4 times each day (in addition to prompt online recordings), so it's always easy to get seats.

*shrug* might be different in other faculties
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: dcc on November 23, 2009, 06:00:10 pm
I think when they say 'results ban' they mean 'no results for arts students'.  Because really, how often does a science subject not run on a strike day?  I have <never had a class cancelled due to a strike>, but all my arts friends just don't end up going.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: iamdan08 on November 23, 2009, 09:42:53 pm
This is bullshit. If they want student support they are not going about it the right way. Pathetic really, since the only people who are being punished are the students, the ones who are keeping them in their job in the first place.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: xXNovaxX on November 23, 2009, 10:12:23 pm
This is bullshit. If they want student support they are not going about it the right way. Pathetic really, since the only people who are being punished are the students, the ones who are keeping them in their job in the first place.
I  LOVE that statement u made, u should really consider being a lawyer!! Hahah, that is such a valid point.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: nicholasysc on November 23, 2009, 10:24:34 pm
funny how Monash doesnt have strikes like Melbourne do? (or does Monash have them as well?) XD :P
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Collin Li on November 23, 2009, 10:36:20 pm
Using students as hostages will only isolate them and their cause.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on November 23, 2009, 11:10:46 pm
This is bullshit. If they want student support they are not going about it the right way. Pathetic really, since the only people who are being punished are the students, the ones who are keeping them in their job in the first place.

I get the feeling that we are the pawns. Ok these guys may have some issues with what's happening, but these strikes are costing us students a lot. In finance I learn't that if investors don't like how a company is being run, they abandon it and it will lose it's power.

I again want to say that these strikes harm us students a lot. The issues these strikes are about really have little relation to students and it's more just workers having b&$@%es about things and if it doesn't go their way, let's put he'll on the students.

Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Noblesse on November 24, 2009, 12:18:28 am
funny how Monash doesnt have strikes like Melbourne do? (or does Monash have them as well?) XD :P

I blame the Melbourne Model.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: xXNovaxX on November 24, 2009, 12:23:14 am
^ LOL
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 24, 2009, 11:36:44 am
funny how Monash doesnt have strikes like Melbourne do? (or does Monash have them as well?) XD :P

I blame the Melbourne Model.

As I was reading from my last post, I was just about to say this lol
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on November 24, 2009, 12:14:06 pm
funny how Monash doesnt have strikes like Melbourne do? (or does Monash have them as well?) XD :P

I blame the Melbourne Model.

Lol. The whole arts area like hates the Melbourne model, whereas science is really indifferent. Jamison hate to rain on your parade but we choose to do a Melbourne model degree.



Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: ell on November 24, 2009, 12:27:38 pm
This is annoying. RMIT is scheduled for the 30th November, so we'd be waiting a while if this isn't resolved soon.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: ninwa on November 24, 2009, 12:37:21 pm
Lol. The whole arts area like hates the Melbourne model, whereas science is really indifferent. Jamison hate to rain on your parade but we choose to do a Melbourne model degree.

Pretty sure he was joking :P
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: doboman on November 24, 2009, 03:02:37 pm
My 2c which I also posted on http://universitybargaining.com.au/2009/11/result-bans-are-now-on/comment-page-2/#comment-299

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November 24th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Guys, stop posting saying “how does this help students, it only helps your hip pocket”. I’m a RMIT student who also happens to be very mad at this. But if we all get off our high horses and take a step back- we can analyse this situation properly and objectivly.

Having results withheld is very annoying. Agreed.
Students graduating or those who need marks for scholarships/transfers deserve exemptions. Agreed.
This is “soo unforgivable for UMSU to support this action”. Disagreed.

What you have to understand is, yeah those who are graduating (transfering/scholarships ect) need results. And im sure that they will get exemptions. But the main target audience for this issue is first and second year students, students who are just starting their UNI journey. These are the students who will suffer the most from what the UNIVERSITY (not the union) are doing. They are the people who will recieve sub-standard teaching and educational opportunities because classes will be have to double or tripple in size. Now I know it’s an inconviniece not to get it on results day, but come on you lot, it’s not that bad. Somebody has to take a stand for future students’ rights and we all need to THANK the union for doing so.

How would you have liked it if you were starting your UNI life with classes double your size? How would you like it if the only contact you had with a teacher was after a lecture for a brief minute? How would you like it if you recieved no support from academics? [And i can go on] That’s right, you wouldnt like it. But this is what future students will be subjected to if nothing is done. And guess what, the University is an organisations, and all they care about is making money [cutting teachers, bigger classes, less this, less that] so dont think the Uni is going to say, “oh poor students, we should give them an extra teacher”.

To rap up, yes it’s annoying. But it’s not that bad, and if it improves the quality of teaching and academic transfer, then we should be all for it. Not attacking the union.

Take a step back, stop being selfish [over a few days] and look at the big picture. Stop caring about yourslf so much [espc when it's only being withheld for a small amount of time] and think about how much this will improve other students if this happens to be successful.

Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Collin Li on November 24, 2009, 04:23:53 pm
To anyone who believes that poor quality of education is the issue here:

"It’s a fact of life that people love to complain, particularly about how terrible the modern world is compared with the past.

They are nearly always wrong. On just about any dimension you can think of — warfare, crime, income, education, transportation, worker safety, health — the twenty-first century is far more hospitable to the average human than any earlier time.
" — SuperFreakonomics

The “poor quality” of education is just an appeal for the union to get its way with their payrises.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: xXNovaxX on November 24, 2009, 04:38:20 pm
NO offence, for I have NO knowledge in this field/University.

But I dont >>>THINK<<< Uni teachers have it hard?! Like I dunno, seems kinda a laid back job.

*dont hurt me*

But like, even if they had 200 students etc...you dont have to care for each one individually, run after homework, cahse absences etc. They just read off a powerpoint, and insert some of their own knowledge (GENERAL SUMMARY)

I know I sound really daft, but yeah. Like I wouldn't say Uni teachers have it bad? Like yes its HARD to get into a lecture position, and they are very intelligent etc.

Correct me if I am wrong, happy to hear rebutalls.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Collin Li on November 24, 2009, 04:45:15 pm
NO offence, for I have NO knowledge in this field/University.

But I dont >>>THINK<<< Uni teachers have it hard?! Like I dunno, seems kinda a laid back job.

*dont hurt me*

But like, even if they had 200 students etc...you dont have to care for each one individually, run after homework, cahse absences etc. They just read off a powerpoint, and insert some of their own knowledge (GENERAL SUMMARY)

I know I sound really daft, but yeah. Like I wouldn't say Uni teachers have it bad? Like yes its HARD to get into a lecture position, and they are very intelligent etc.

Correct me if I am wrong, happy to hear rebutalls.

Obviously every lecturer will have a different take on it. But as some people have pointed out earlier in the thread -- advertised strikes have had no affect on their subjects because of the faculty they come from.

Is it any surprise that Arts lecturers are more likely to participate than Engineering lecturers or Commerce lecturers? I've never been affected by a strike, and I don't think I will be affected by this one either. Their non-committal to the NTEU's agenda is a vote of confidence against the supposedly poor working conditions at university.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on November 24, 2009, 10:42:42 pm
Quote from: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/students-add-to-pressure-on-melbourne-uni-staff-conditions/story-e6frgcjx-1225800583049
While formal processing of results will be banned, students will be able to ascertain their marks directly from their teachers.

Maybe we still can get our results?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: zzdfa on November 25, 2009, 12:14:32 am
yeah they'll probably just put them up on blackboard to stop people from spamming their email
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Noblesse on November 25, 2009, 12:36:39 am
I wonder if they are still banned by the due date, whether the history of results trick will work?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on November 25, 2009, 10:08:38 am
I wonder if they are still banned by the due date, whether the history of results trick will work?
Don't think that will work, they might block that...

Though the teachers might have the results and post them up somewhere if they aren't supporting the ban?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Eriny on November 25, 2009, 11:28:37 am
NO offence, for I have NO knowledge in this field/University.

But I dont >>>THINK<<< Uni teachers have it hard?! Like I dunno, seems kinda a laid back job.

*dont hurt me*

But like, even if they had 200 students etc...you dont have to care for each one individually, run after homework, cahse absences etc. They just read off a powerpoint, and insert some of their own knowledge (GENERAL SUMMARY)

I know I sound really daft, but yeah. Like I wouldn't say Uni teachers have it bad? Like yes its HARD to get into a lecture position, and they are very intelligent etc.

Correct me if I am wrong, happy to hear rebutalls.
It depends. Often it involves a lot of marking in a very short time so the uni can organise graduation and stuff (at ANU, graduation ceremonies are held in December, less than a month after the last exams have taken place). Also, most lecturers do research. I'm not sure what it's like at other unis but if you're an academic at ANU you have to publish two scholarly articles a year on top of a course load. If you don't do this you become a 'teaching academic' which means you don't get time off (or as much time off) for research and you have to teach more classes. I don't think the teaching itself is all that difficult though, especially if you teach the same course several times. Academics are also paid fairly well and have excellent superannuation.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on November 25, 2009, 12:43:36 pm
NO offence, for I have NO knowledge in this field/University.

But I dont >>>THINK<<< Uni teachers have it hard?! Like I dunno, seems kinda a laid back job.

*dont hurt me*

But like, even if they had 200 students etc...you dont have to care for each one individually, run after homework, cahse absences etc. They just read off a powerpoint, and insert some of their own knowledge (GENERAL SUMMARY)

I know I sound really daft, but yeah. Like I wouldn't say Uni teachers have it bad? Like yes its HARD to get into a lecture position, and they are very intelligent etc.

Correct me if I am wrong, happy to hear rebutalls.
It depends. Often it involves a lot of marking in a very short time so the uni can organise graduation and stuff (at ANU, graduation ceremonies are held in December, less than a month after the last exams have taken place). Also, most lecturers do research. I'm not sure what it's like at other unis but if you're an academic at ANU you have to publish two scholarly articles a year on top of a course load. If you don't do this you become a 'teaching academic' which means you don't get time off (or as much time off) for research and you have to teach more classes. I don't think the teaching itself is all that difficult though, especially if you teach the same course several times. Academics are also paid fairly well and have excellent superannuation.

I want to take a step back into being objective about this! So is this true? academics will mark the assessed work and it's the administrators who distribute the results to the students. So is it just the administrators who are doing this strike? The academics who are doing this strike? Or is it both?

Eriny do you have this knowledge because you are hoping to be an academic? I personally would like to enter the area of academia, but I don't want to have this rubbish going on if I were to work as one! Where did you find this information from.

I think this is the reason why a lot of students would prefer the business sector than being in academia. This whole area looks like putting in the same (if not more) work than your counterparts to enter what seems to be more competitive and unstable area. This was the whole reason why I thought of doing engineering (despite it being boring) because it seemed much more stable. My interest in maths and physics was too great though to stop learning the two, so I decided to stay with these.

Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on November 25, 2009, 05:44:39 pm
Email to students:

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The University of Melbourne and the National Tertiary Education Union
(NTEU) are currently negotiating a new Enterprise Bargaining Agreement.
 
Regrettably, the NTEU as part of its negotiation strategy has imposed bans
on the transmission of assessment and examination results, an action has
the potential to directly and unfairly impact on students.
 
The University deplores this action and shares the sentiments of many
concerned students who have expressed their views to the University and on
the NTEU website.  Students should not be held to ransom by the NTEU.
 
Historically the staff at Melbourne have been reluctant to engage in
tactics such as exam bans as they realise that such actions hurt students.
 
The NTEU action came as a surprise to the University as both parties are
now in a period of intensive negotiation and the University had believed
negotiations were progressing productively.
 
However, I would like to assure you that the University will be doing
everything possible to minimise the impact of the NTEU action on students.
 
At this point, we expect that the processing and announcement of results
and course completions will proceed as usual, in accord with published
schedules and in time for final year students to graduate as planned.
 
The University is watching this situation closely and as further
information comes to hand will communicate with students promptly via
student email and the student portal.  I would urge  you monitor these
sources for further details and, if at any stage you are concerned that you
are being affected by the bans, please contact your Student Centre.  A list
of Student Centres, their locations, opening hours, and contact details are
at http://www.acadreg.unimelb.edu.au/StudentCentre/centre/index.html
 
John Dewar
Provost
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: /0 on November 25, 2009, 05:47:40 pm
YEAH Business as usual
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Eriny on November 25, 2009, 08:39:19 pm
NO offence, for I have NO knowledge in this field/University.

But I dont >>>THINK<<< Uni teachers have it hard?! Like I dunno, seems kinda a laid back job.

*dont hurt me*

But like, even if they had 200 students etc...you dont have to care for each one individually, run after homework, cahse absences etc. They just read off a powerpoint, and insert some of their own knowledge (GENERAL SUMMARY)

I know I sound really daft, but yeah. Like I wouldn't say Uni teachers have it bad? Like yes its HARD to get into a lecture position, and they are very intelligent etc.

Correct me if I am wrong, happy to hear rebutalls.
It depends. Often it involves a lot of marking in a very short time so the uni can organise graduation and stuff (at ANU, graduation ceremonies are held in December, less than a month after the last exams have taken place). Also, most lecturers do research. I'm not sure what it's like at other unis but if you're an academic at ANU you have to publish two scholarly articles a year on top of a course load. If you don't do this you become a 'teaching academic' which means you don't get time off (or as much time off) for research and you have to teach more classes. I don't think the teaching itself is all that difficult though, especially if you teach the same course several times. Academics are also paid fairly well and have excellent superannuation.

I want to take a step back into being objective about this! So is this true? academics will mark the assessed work and it's the administrators who distribute the results to the students. So is it just the administrators who are doing this strike? The academics who are doing this strike? Or is it both?

Eriny do you have this knowledge because you are hoping to be an academic? I personally would like to enter the area of academia, but I don't want to have this rubbish going on if I were to work as one! Where did you find this information from.

I think this is the reason why a lot of students would prefer the business sector than being in academia. This whole area looks like putting in the same (if not more) work than your counterparts to enter what seems to be more competitive and unstable area. This was the whole reason why I thought of doing engineering (despite it being boring) because it seemed much more stable. My interest in maths and physics was too great though to stop learning the two, so I decided to stay with these.


I know most of the stuff I know from listening to lecturers talk about their job (they do that sometimes). I am thinking of being an academic though, but I think there are a few other things I wouldn't mind doing as well. I have many competing interests.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: squance on November 25, 2009, 08:44:13 pm
YEAH Business as usual

WOO!! Awesome!
(I still hate the NTEU though)
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: beezy4eva on November 26, 2009, 08:36:10 pm
WHY IS THE STUDENT UNION SUPPORTING THIS? I thought the whole point of the union was to look out for OUR welfare, not the teachers. Not releasing our grades which we have a right to know is NOT beneficial for us. 
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on November 27, 2009, 10:28:46 am
WHY IS THE STUDENT UNION SUPPORTING THIS? I thought the whole point of the union was to look out for OUR welfare, not the teachers. Not releasing our grades which we have a right to know is NOT beneficial for us. 

The question is more like "why wouldn't the student union support this?"

How cynical of me


Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: /0 on November 27, 2009, 08:16:18 pm
Can we find out our exam results from instructors before the 11th (or 10th?)?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: dcc on November 27, 2009, 08:19:27 pm
Can we find out our exam results from instructors before the 11th (or 10th?)?

I doubt it.  There is one thing you can do (read top of the UoM forum) to get your results a day earlier then they are released, but I don't think they're allowed to actually say what your results are (just like staff @ UoM aren't allowed to talk about the location / time / date of any exams, so that the blame cannot be placed on them)
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: ell on November 30, 2009, 10:11:09 am
Alright. I received my results for only one of my subjects, the rest have been withheld.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: squance on November 30, 2009, 11:26:09 am
Alright. I received my results for only one of my subjects, the rest have been withheld.


:'( :'( :'(
It sucks that these uni lecturers are part of the NTEU
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: ell on November 30, 2009, 03:31:23 pm
Quote from: Peter McDonald, Program Director for the Software Engineering & Computer Science degrees
Hi Folks,

You'll be pleased to hear that as of this afternoon, the NTEU (Staff) Union has agreed to lift their bans on providing RMIT with results. This is as a result of RMIT agreeing to provide better and safer conditions for our sessional/contract staff.

All course leaders who have not already uploaded their results to the University computer systems will do so later today or tomorrow, which means that over the next two days you will find more, and eventually all, of your results available via the online results system.

This also means that program coordinators will be able to easily determine the outcomes of graduation applications. So the biggest potential headache is over. There may be one or two courses for which results are delayed a little further because manual entry of results may be required. I know a couple of full-year courses (eg. 3rd Year SE Internship course) where a problem arose with semester 1 results reverting from RW to NN because semester 2 results were not entered in time (due in large part to the union action). All will be sorted soon.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 02, 2009, 07:59:21 pm
I just got an email:

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I Exam Viewing is scheduled for Monday 14 December, 2-3.30pm.

Exam review appointments can now be booked via the Commerce Student Centre Student Booking System.  http://www.ecom.unimelb.edu.au/tools/bsstudentinterface/login.aspx

Simply log in using your standard University username and password and select from the exam review timeslots provided for the relevant subject.

If you have any questions regarding the Student Booking System or require any assistance please contact the Commerce Student Centre.

Upper Ground Level, ICT Building
Tel: +61 3 8344 5317
Toll Free: 1800 666 300
Email: [email protected]

So I made an appointment for 2pm to view my results for 15 minutes. But 'where' is another question.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 02, 2009, 08:51:41 pm
I just got an email:

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I Exam Viewing is scheduled for Monday 14 December, 2-3.30pm.

Exam review appointments can now be booked via the Commerce Student Centre Student Booking System.  http://www.ecom.unimelb.edu.au/tools/bsstudentinterface/login.aspx

Simply log in using your standard University username and password and select from the exam review timeslots provided for the relevant subject.

If you have any questions regarding the Student Booking System or require any assistance please contact the Commerce Student Centre.

Upper Ground Level, ICT Building
Tel: +61 3 8344 5317
Toll Free: 1800 666 300
Email: [email protected]

So I made an appointment for 2pm to view my results for 15 minutes. But 'where' is another question.

Seriously this results ban is like going to the country of your dreams and being mugged there.
Is that for Finance 101 only? I hope I get to have a look at my Management paper. I booked a time last sem for Finance but forgot to go :(
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: /0 on December 02, 2009, 08:54:53 pm
huh? I thought the ban was being lifted o.O
Can you still access results online?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 02, 2009, 09:02:15 pm

Is that for Finance 101 only? I hope I get to have a look at my Management paper. I booked a time last sem for Finance but forgot to go :(


Wait...wait...wait just 1 moment. You did one of these things last semester? So where do you go and does this mean I may still get my results on the 11th? Where do you go?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: zzdfa on December 02, 2009, 09:28:32 pm
Quantum, do you realize that this is for students wishing to inspect their exam papers to see where they went wrong, and doesn't have anything to to do with the results ban?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 02, 2009, 09:42:50 pm

Is that for Finance 101 only? I hope I get to have a look at my Management paper. I booked a time last sem for Finance but forgot to go :(


Wait...wait...wait just 1 moment. You did one of these things last semester? So where do you go and does this mean I may still get my results on the 11th? Where do you go?
That email you've got is for viewing your exam paper. Last semester we had to make an appointment at the Commerce student centre (there wasn't an online booking system). And I think the exam viewing happens at the Student Centre at The Spot. I think it should say somewhere when you sign up...

If you don't get your results on the 11th, those who signed up get to see their marks on the 14th :P
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 02, 2009, 11:03:16 pm
Quantum, do you realize that this is for students wishing to inspect their exam papers to see where they went wrong, and doesn't have anything to to do with the results ban?

My bad!

Just realised this and as you have seen I have removed one of my posts and edited the other. I am truely sorry if I have caused any disturbances, but I am just in a panic at the moment with the results ban. PLUS no other subjects of mine have allowed me to inspect my exam paper.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: kendraaaaa on December 02, 2009, 11:04:05 pm
Lolololool monash here I come.

o.O
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Collin Li on December 03, 2009, 07:06:17 am
QuantumJG -- it's far easier to apply for an exemption and just lie about your circumstances. I did this with little to no effort. It was about 2 lines. It was vague.

And they said yes.

And if they hadn't, I would have ranted more about NTEU and their disrespect for student privacy.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: username on December 03, 2009, 09:13:15 am
I got an exemption email this morning.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 03, 2009, 09:59:17 am
You can't apply for an emeption anymore or can you?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 03, 2009, 10:50:09 am
OMG Should I apply for one? I thought we were going to get our results on time anyway.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: /0 on December 03, 2009, 03:35:54 pm
lol my instructor hinted at my score but I don't know if he was joking...

anyway...  how do you apply for exemption? If you do, do you have to travel there and see your score (in which case I cbf) or can you do it online?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: username on December 03, 2009, 04:51:07 pm
lol my instructor hinted at my score but I don't know if he was joking...

anyway...  how do you apply for exemption? If you do, do you have to travel there and see your score (in which case I cbf) or can you do it online?

If you go to the site the OP linked to, there should be directions on how to apply.

http://universitybargaining.com.au/students/melbourne/

This is the one for UoM.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: username on December 03, 2009, 04:52:23 pm
OMG Should I apply for one? I thought we were going to get our results on time anyway.

The ban on UoM results haven't been lifted so I don't think we will be in the end. No harm in applying.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 03, 2009, 05:05:16 pm
OMG Should I apply for one? I thought we were going to get our results on time anyway.

The ban on UoM results haven't been lifted so I don't think we will be in the end. No harm in applying.

It says:
Quote
Reason for exemption *
Supporting documentation establishing a genuine case of your need to know your results will ensure a rapid decision (e.g. evidence of application for course transfer or application for a scholarship or a need for visa renewal or a need for professional registration to commence employment or some other compelling reason).
I haven't got anything to prove that I'm applying for an internal transfer so what would I write here  ???
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: /0 on December 03, 2009, 05:06:02 pm
Say it's vital for your mental stability lol
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 03, 2009, 05:13:32 pm
Actually, there's a button in the Portal - most likely we will get our results on time...

(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9772/sdfdsfk.jpg)



Release dates
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: squance on December 03, 2009, 05:15:02 pm
Thats good then :) :) :)
But I still hate the NTEU
(and damn it, why did I renew my membership with the student union for next year? >.<
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: username on December 03, 2009, 05:38:37 pm
OMG Should I apply for one? I thought we were going to get our results on time anyway.

The ban on UoM results haven't been lifted so I don't think we will be in the end. No harm in applying.

It says:
Quote
Reason for exemption *
Supporting documentation establishing a genuine case of your need to know your results will ensure a rapid decision (e.g. evidence of application for course transfer or application for a scholarship or a need for visa renewal or a need for professional registration to commence employment or some other compelling reason).
I haven't got anything to prove that I'm applying for an internal transfer so what would I write here  ???

I got the wonderful idea from Robbo and said I was applying for a job that wanted to see my grades.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 03, 2009, 05:43:12 pm
Thats good then :) :) :)
But I still hate the NTEU
(and damn it, why did I renew my membership with the student union for next year? >.<
Get a refund heehee
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Collin Li on December 03, 2009, 06:03:30 pm
OMG Should I apply for one? I thought we were going to get our results on time anyway.

The ban on UoM results haven't been lifted so I don't think we will be in the end. No harm in applying.

It says:
Quote
Reason for exemption *
Supporting documentation establishing a genuine case of your need to know your results will ensure a rapid decision (e.g. evidence of application for course transfer or application for a scholarship or a need for visa renewal or a need for professional registration to commence employment or some other compelling reason).
I haven't got anything to prove that I'm applying for an internal transfer so what would I write here  ???

I got the wonderful idea from Robbo and said I was applying for a job that wanted to see my grades.

Worked for me! I also made up something about how I needed it in a week or something.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 03, 2009, 06:30:21 pm
Help me think of an excuse as well!!


My excuse was that I need to know if I passed linear algebra, since I need to know if I needed to do it over the summer semester. Probably won't get passed.

Even if these bans are lifted, I still hate NTEU for even contemplating to withhold our results.

I won't become a union member next year (nor did I last year). What is the value of becoming a member anyway? $6 off a text book?


Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 08, 2009, 10:39:57 am
Should I forward this to lecturers? (It says in this email)



Dear student,

Re: Exemptions sought for transfer of results

This officially notifies that your results have been exempted from the ban on the transmission of results as authorised by the University of Melbourne NTEU exemptions committee on November 30  2009.

Exemption are granted for the following subjects:

325101 Managing People and Organisations 610102 Chemistry 2 640172 Physics 2: Life Sciences & Environment 650142 Genetics & The Evolution of Life

In order for your results to be processed you must forward this email on to all the lecturers who are responsible for the subjects you sought exemptions for. The email can be used by those lecturers to authorise your exemption to other staff administering the release of your results.

Regards,

Ted Clark
For
University of Melbourne NTEU Exemptions Committee
8 December 2009
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: squance on December 08, 2009, 10:47:28 am
Yes you should forward this email to your lecturers.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 08, 2009, 11:19:32 am
Should I forward this to lecturers? (It says in this email)



Dear student,

Re: Exemptions sought for transfer of results

This officially notifies that your results have been exempted from the ban on the transmission of results as authorised by the University of Melbourne NTEU exemptions committee on November 30  2009.

Exemption are granted for the following subjects:

325101 Managing People and Organisations 610102 Chemistry 2 640172 Physics 2: Life Sciences & Environment 650142 Genetics & The Evolution of Life

In order for your results to be processed you must forward this email on to all the lecturers who are responsible for the subjects you sought exemptions for. The email can be used by those lecturers to authorise your exemption to other staff administering the release of your results.

Regards,

Ted Clark
For
University of Melbourne NTEU Exemptions Committee
8 December 2009

What did you write in you plead for exemption? I have recieved no email at all.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 08, 2009, 11:32:53 am
Should I forward this to lecturers? (It says in this email)



Dear student,

Re: Exemptions sought for transfer of results

This officially notifies that your results have been exempted from the ban on the transmission of results as authorised by the University of Melbourne NTEU exemptions committee on November 30  2009.

Exemption are granted for the following subjects:

325101 Managing People and Organisations 610102 Chemistry 2 640172 Physics 2: Life Sciences & Environment 650142 Genetics & The Evolution of Life

In order for your results to be processed you must forward this email on to all the lecturers who are responsible for the subjects you sought exemptions for. The email can be used by those lecturers to authorise your exemption to other staff administering the release of your results.

Regards,

Ted Clark
For
University of Melbourne NTEU Exemptions Committee
8 December 2009

What did you write in you plead for exemption? I have recieved no email at all.
I needed it to apply for an internal transfer...
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: username on December 08, 2009, 11:40:31 am
Should I forward this to lecturers? (It says in this email)



Dear student,

Re: Exemptions sought for transfer of results

This officially notifies that your results have been exempted from the ban on the transmission of results as authorised by the University of Melbourne NTEU exemptions committee on November 30  2009.

Exemption are granted for the following subjects:

325101 Managing People and Organisations 610102 Chemistry 2 640172 Physics 2: Life Sciences & Environment 650142 Genetics & The Evolution of Life

In order for your results to be processed you must forward this email on to all the lecturers who are responsible for the subjects you sought exemptions for. The email can be used by those lecturers to authorise your exemption to other staff administering the release of your results.

Regards,

Ted Clark
For
University of Melbourne NTEU Exemptions Committee
8 December 2009

I only did it to my subject coordinators. Reason is because for Genetics where we had like 6 lecturers, I doubt it'd make a difference since Dawn was the main person anyway.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 08, 2009, 11:42:29 am
Should I forward this to lecturers? (It says in this email)



Dear student,

Re: Exemptions sought for transfer of results

This officially notifies that your results have been exempted from the ban on the transmission of results as authorised by the University of Melbourne NTEU exemptions committee on November 30  2009.

Exemption are granted for the following subjects:

325101 Managing People and Organisations 610102 Chemistry 2 640172 Physics 2: Life Sciences & Environment 650142 Genetics & The Evolution of Life

In order for your results to be processed you must forward this email on to all the lecturers who are responsible for the subjects you sought exemptions for. The email can be used by those lecturers to authorise your exemption to other staff administering the release of your results.

Regards,

Ted Clark
For
University of Melbourne NTEU Exemptions Committee
8 December 2009

What did you write in you plead for exemption? I have recieved no email at all.
I needed it to apply for an internal transfer...

Are you transferring to biomed?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 08, 2009, 11:43:32 am
Should I forward this to lecturers? (It says in this email)



Dear student,

Re: Exemptions sought for transfer of results

This officially notifies that your results have been exempted from the ban on the transmission of results as authorised by the University of Melbourne NTEU exemptions committee on November 30  2009.

Exemption are granted for the following subjects:

325101 Managing People and Organisations 610102 Chemistry 2 640172 Physics 2: Life Sciences & Environment 650142 Genetics & The Evolution of Life

In order for your results to be processed you must forward this email on to all the lecturers who are responsible for the subjects you sought exemptions for. The email can be used by those lecturers to authorise your exemption to other staff administering the release of your results.

Regards,

Ted Clark
For
University of Melbourne NTEU Exemptions Committee
8 December 2009

I only did it to my subject coordinators. Reason is because for Genetics where we had like 6 lecturers, I doubt it'd make a difference since Dawn was the main person anyway.
Did you put in any name/student number? Otherwise they wouldn't know who the exemption is for.

Are you transferring to biomed?
If results are good and I get credit for all my subjects
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: username on December 08, 2009, 11:48:23 am
Should I forward this to lecturers? (It says in this email)



Dear student,

Re: Exemptions sought for transfer of results

This officially notifies that your results have been exempted from the ban on the transmission of results as authorised by the University of Melbourne NTEU exemptions committee on November 30  2009.

Exemption are granted for the following subjects:

325101 Managing People and Organisations 610102 Chemistry 2 640172 Physics 2: Life Sciences & Environment 650142 Genetics & The Evolution of Life

In order for your results to be processed you must forward this email on to all the lecturers who are responsible for the subjects you sought exemptions for. The email can be used by those lecturers to authorise your exemption to other staff administering the release of your results.

Regards,

Ted Clark
For
University of Melbourne NTEU Exemptions Committee
8 December 2009

I only did it to my subject coordinators. Reason is because for Genetics where we had like 6 lecturers, I doubt it'd make a difference since Dawn was the main person anyway.
Did you put in any name/student number? Otherwise they wouldn't know who the exemption is for.

Are you transferring to biomed?
If results are good and I get credit for all my subjects

It says in the email 'Results exemption for [student number]'. Did for mine, anyway.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 08, 2009, 12:44:40 pm
I got my email.

I am exempted!
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: iamdan08 on December 08, 2009, 03:34:59 pm
Wait. Wasn't the ban lifted? I thought melb uni said we should get our results as normal?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 08, 2009, 03:36:48 pm
That's what the university says, but the ban for UoM hasn't been lifted. RMIT has.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 08, 2009, 03:50:37 pm
Just exempt yourself from the ban.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: iamdan08 on December 08, 2009, 03:55:43 pm
lol. So do i go to this site? -> http://universitybargaining.com.au/students/melbourne/

What are the best excuses so far?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: squance on December 08, 2009, 04:01:30 pm
But wouldn't it be too late to apply for it now since results are supposed to be released at the end of this week?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: iamdan08 on December 08, 2009, 05:12:18 pm
Well i submitted an application. It said "we will endeavor to respond within three days". So if you include today, i should get a response by Thursday. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Ahmad on December 08, 2009, 05:29:05 pm
Has anyone not applied for exemption? I haven't.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: /0 on December 08, 2009, 05:34:29 pm
I haven't, I don't think they will take umep seriously
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 08, 2009, 05:42:40 pm
I've forwarded the email to 4 of the subject coordinators, and 2 have replied so far.

They have confirmed that Biology and Physics are not affected. Applies for Science and Biomed.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: squance on December 08, 2009, 06:02:39 pm
I've forwarded the email to 4 of the subject coordinators, and 2 have replied so far.

They have confirmed that Biology and Physics are not affected. Applies for Science and Biomed.

Man, if Chemistry is affected, I will be so angry.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 08, 2009, 06:59:27 pm
I've forwarded the email to 4 of the subject coordinators, and 2 have replied so far.

They have confirmed that Biology and Physics are not affected. Applies for Science and Biomed.

It's good to know physics isn't affected (I haven't got the email yet though), I got an email from my finance professor saying that finance isn't affected. Haven't heard from linear algebra or engineering.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: iamdan08 on December 08, 2009, 08:44:38 pm
So what do you think will happen if we try and order an email of results history tomorrow. Do you think only the subjects not affected by the ban will come up, or will no results come up?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 08, 2009, 09:00:24 pm
So what do you think will happen if we try and order an email of results history tomorrow. Do you think only the subjects not affected by the ban will come up, or will no results come up?

how long does it take to get the email?
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 08, 2009, 09:02:55 pm
So what do you think will happen if we try and order an email of results history tomorrow. Do you think only the subjects not affected by the ban will come up, or will no results come up?

http://studentadmin-unimelb.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/studentadmin_unimelb.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1215

I think the official date for most of us is 11th, but we should be able to request it on 10th
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: QuantumJG on December 08, 2009, 09:05:27 pm
http://studentadmin-unimelb.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/studentadmin_unimelb.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1215

I think the official date for most of us is 11th, but we should be able to request it on 10th

I was asking how many days it would take to get the history of results.
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: squance on December 08, 2009, 09:06:44 pm
http://studentadmin-unimelb.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/studentadmin_unimelb.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1215

I think the official date for most of us is 11th, but we should be able to request it on 10th

I was asking how many days it would take to get the history of results.

Around 1 hour after requesting the history of results
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: Edmund on December 08, 2009, 09:10:25 pm
Ok I just requested them to see if I get my results now :D :D

http://studentadmin-unimelb.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/studentadmin_unimelb.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1215

I think the official date for most of us is 11th, but we should be able to request it on 10th

I was asking how many days it would take to get the history of results.
Yeh sorry was quoting iamdan
Title: Re: Results Ban
Post by: iamdan08 on December 08, 2009, 09:56:56 pm
I think the official date for most of us is 11th, but we should be able to request it on 10th

Oh, my bad. On the portal it said the 10th. Thought that was for everyone. Last semester i got my results around 6.30pm the night before.