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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2009, 04:04:29 pm »
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...and it was dark, lol. Couldn't see ;P

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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2009, 04:33:51 pm »
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lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllll. woops, left my hand on "l" LMAO (woops here i go again on caps).

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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2009, 04:47:15 pm »
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What I'm trying to say is that your original post was clearly not an accident as suggested by:

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Re: FAT TAX
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2009, 06:25:41 pm »
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Re: strange typesetting

So what?

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Re: fat tax

A classic case of government intervention creating mistakes that are not fixed by the removal of it, but by "patching it" with more government intervention. (e.g.: medicare system makes fat people a burden on the health system, so fat people need to be punished - if the system was set under liberal and free principles, then we would not need to interfere with personal lifestyle choices)
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2009, 07:39:50 pm »
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Re: strange typesetting

So what?

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Re: FAT TAX
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2009, 04:16:31 pm »
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I can understand the tax on cigarettes and so on, but I think that most people who buy chocolate bars don't actually abuse them and therefore the tax would be too blunt to actually work well. Besides, with cigarette taxes, the only people willing to buy them still are complete addicts. If the same is true for chocolate, then only obese people would be eating chocolate which is kind of weird.

Personally, it would obviously reduce my incentive to buy chocolate and I would do so less often, as per basic economics, but I'm not obese, so *shrugs*

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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2009, 04:27:52 pm »
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U hit the nail on the hammer Eriny!! That's what I was trying to get across. People that buy chocolate bars don't abuse eating chocolate, and therefore it won't work well. It's all just a cover up for another tax.

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2009, 01:30:54 am »
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I can understand the tax on cigarettes and so on, but I think that most people who buy chocolate bars don't actually abuse them and therefore the tax would be too blunt to actually work well. Besides, with cigarette taxes, the only people willing to buy them still are complete addicts. If the same is true for chocolate, then only obese people would be eating chocolate which is kind of weird.

Personally, it would obviously reduce my incentive to buy chocolate and I would do so less often, as per basic economics, but I'm not obese, so *shrugs*

Another allegory could be made for taxes on alcohol. Alcohol shares much of the same properties as chocolate in that in moderate amounts, it is not deadly, but in too much is not a good thing.
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2009, 01:51:29 am »
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Just tax the most inelastic (non-essential) goods on the market. Should work fine.


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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2009, 10:55:17 am »
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  Providing revenue more efficiently than by other taxes, is the only [good] reason to tax luxury goods, [as Brendan argued here http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,7904.0.html]
  As Eriny said, hiking up chocolate bar prices as a disincentive to fat people is very much of a scattergun approach, unjustly burdening all consumers of that good*; furthermore, as Coblin intimated, if the government withdrew its assistance to victims of self harm,** the problem [at least in terms of cost to the taxpayer] would be solved at a stroke.

*Though I disagree with her that cigarettes are fundamentally different from chocolates, for the purposes discussed
 
**Brendan advocated a 'HECS-style debt', for people who were in urgent need of treatment, but unable to pay
 
 
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So what?

The reaction to this thread is a perfect example of the extremely nepotistic behaviour that drove me away from VCENotes.
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  lol srsly Mao + Excal, was there a potion at the Global Mod initiation ceremony, which suddenly makes any drinker insufferably holier-than-thou?

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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2009, 02:41:28 pm »
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The reaction to this thread is a perfect example of the extremely nepotistic behaviour that drove me away from VCENotes.

And just why did you come back, anyway? :)

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Re: FAT TAX
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2009, 02:46:43 pm »
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Re: FAT TAX
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2009, 12:33:13 am »
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 Providing revenue more efficiently than by other taxes, is the only [good] reason to tax luxury goods, [as Brendan argued here http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,7904.0.html]
  As Eriny said, hiking up chocolate bar prices as a disincentive to fat people is very much of a scattergun approach, unjustly burdening all consumers of that good*; furthermore, as Coblin intimated, if the government withdrew its assistance to victims of self harm,** the problem [at least in terms of cost to the taxpayer] would be solved at a stroke.

*Though I disagree with her that cigarettes are fundamentally different from chocolates, for the purposes discussed
 
**Brendan advocated a 'HECS-style debt', for people who were in urgent need of treatment, but unable to pay
 
 
Re: strange typesetting

So what?

The reaction to this thread is a perfect example of the extremely nepotistic behaviour that drove me away from VCENotes.
+1
 
  lol srsly Mao + Excal, was there a potion at the Global Mod initiation ceremony, which suddenly makes any drinker insufferably holier-than-thou?

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Nah, I just don't like people who do something that's clearly intentional and then (fail at) lying about their intentions. Just one of those little things that irritate me!

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With that in mind though, with the higher cost of chocolate due to this tax will (presumably) come with additional income due to reduced taxes. Would it be fair to say that things would be remain the relatively same (i.e., a person could buy 4 bars a week with their disposable income before and after the changes)? I know it's not going to be an exact science, but that's the aim behind it anyway.

And those who don't eat chocolate win.
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Re: FAT TAX
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2009, 12:35:28 am »
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lol! Dam it, he blew my cover :P. fineeeee i ADMIT (woops caps again), but I was typing very fast, and yes, didn't check my spelling, but I did know I made errors.

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