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I fear Google
« on: December 08, 2009, 01:22:29 am »
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Hello

Doesn't ANYBODY feel suss about google and its intentions?
  • It has its own web browser...google chrome
  • it has its own mobile phone I THINK?
  • it has the worlds largest search engine
  • it has advertisments, and ad-watcher or whatever tracking you on practically every website
  • IT WILL HAVE AN OPERATING SYSTEM next year
  • it has google earth, which has caused controversy with street view etc
  • Has its own MSN/ messenger
  • own e-mail aka G-mail


Call me crazy and paranoid, but this is too much. I don't believe this "is an example of a great and intelligent company/work of CEO'S" I think this is an extremely subtle way of gaining control of our daily lives, which is increasingly being online, on the computer etc.

For some reason, I have NO ISSUES with Microsoft being a world leader....i don't know why, i just dont feel they are out there to watch you, maybe because they only create PC's, and a few keyboards and webcams.....whereas google just keeps growing and growing and growing.

There have been reports on how in googles terms of use, it stores ur search queries for like 20 years or something (cant remember).

btw just read the bolded words below if u cbf





The following article really made matters worse

http://www.smh.com.au/business/cloud-comes-with-a-chrome-lining-20091207-kfgn.html

ICloud comes with a Chrome lining
JACK SCHOFIELD
December 8, 2009
ALTHOUGH it won't be available for another year, Google's Chrome operating system is an attempt to take over the fast-growing netbook part of the PC market, currently dominated by Microsoft.

It is aimed at people who live their lives online. Chrome OS is designed to work with the cloud, meaning applications run from the web rather than a hard disk. Installing your own software isn't allowed.

If it takes off, Google will gain unprecedented power over PC vendors, who will be able to use only components Google specifies and supports. Google will control and maintain the operating system remotely, so if it doesn't want you to have something, you won't get it.

Google has been specific about the rules. For example, reporters have been told Chrome OS netbooks will not be allowed to use hard drives (Flash memory boots faster) and that Google will specify which Wi-Fi cards it will support.

There is nothing new about the idea of a Chrome OS machine, and there is not much new in the code: it is based on open-source projects such as Linux. Also, Google has been careful to point out its limited ambitions for Chrome OS netbooks. The initial ''use cases'' include ''computing on the couch'' and ''a lightweight, secondary work computer''. It is not trying to replace traditional PCs running Windows or Mac OS X.

''There are some applications that are not available on the web. There are some things that this machine will not be able to do,'' said Sundar Pichai, a Google vice-president. ''It's a companion device. We expect most users to have another machine at home.''

Chrome OS is optimised for the latest 902.11n version of Wi-Fi, so it is assumed users can get that from their couch, or at work. Chrome OS netbooks will also work in Wi-Fi hotspots and on a small number of trains and planes, but their offline capabilities will be limited.

Later, online web applications will become more powerful, which will reduce the need for specialised applications software, and fast, free Wi-Fi will become more widely available. When this happens, Google could end up controlling a significant portion of the PC market.

The aim, says Mr Pichai, is to make your PC work like a TV: turn it on and in a few seconds you can do what you want. In this case, it is assumed what you want to do is check email, use social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter, look up maps, and so on.

These are things people can already do with a smartphone, and Google is competing in the smartphone market with its Android software. But Chrome goes further by eliminating local applications. There won't be a Chrome OS app store, and Chrome OS netbooks won't run Android apps, because all the apps are online apps. Eliminating local apps means Google can strip everything out that isn't required to run the Chrome browser, so the final code should be smaller and faster. It also means Google can prevent users from messing around with the operating system.

Further simplification comes from not supporting devices such as MP3 players and digital cameras, except as USB storage devices. Many of Windows' complications come from its support for tens of thousands of hardware components and add-on devices. With Chrome, users no longer have to worry about maintaining their computer: Google does it for them. Nor will users have to make back-ups. There is no local data to back up: everything is stored online.

It also means Chrome OS computers can be shared around the house, or in cafes, schools and libraries. ''Your'' netbook is, in effect, stored online, in the cloud. Any device becomes ''yours'' when you log on.

Google still has problems to solve and has yet to reach deals with potential manufacturers. However, assuming Chrome OS netbooks appear on the market, will they be a success?

Historically, the omens aren't good. In the mid-'90s, Oracle got huge publicity for its simplified ''network computers'', but they flopped. Microsoft made two attempts: with WebTV (set-top box computers that plugged into a TV set) and, in 1999, Web Companions. There was also the WebPad, a simple internet access device.

But, perhaps, a decade later, the idea's time has come.

Nick Carr, whose book, The Big Switch, predicates a shift from desktop to cloud computing, says: ''My sense of the Chrome OS is that, while it represents an obvious next step for web-based computing, the inability to install applications may limit its adoption, at least for the next few years. I think it will be a while before mainstream computer users will be ready to give up the option of running their own apps and storing their own data …

''Chrome OS is a smart way for Google to push forward cloud computing, but I wouldn't expect it to take the world by storm.''

Some fear an online site they use for storing data could go bust, or they could be locked out of their Google accounts for no apparent reason. But US analyst Ray Valdes says people lose data ''when it's in the safety of their own homes''; Google's servers could be safer.

Mr Valdes says: ''Google is trying to redefine the notion of a netbook. ''In the past that has been seen as a watered-down laptop: cheaper but not as satisfying. Google is trying to change that to make a netbook a faster, richer, more secure experience; a different value proposition from a laptop. If Google can do that, it will be very successful

END ARTICLE


That's just wayy to much control...if google won't take advantage of its powers, a corrupt government one day will
« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 02:03:14 am by xXNovaxX »

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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 01:23:40 am »
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Why fear Google when you've got the New World Order?  :P  lol  jjk

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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 01:29:02 am »
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If people don't like google they will stick with windows, macs, linux, whatever...
They're not forcing you to choose google

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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 01:29:24 am »
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And then there's Googlewave, which may have been mentioned in your post, but I still don't get what it is.

Why would anyone want to buy a computer if you can't even install your own software?
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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 01:29:31 am »
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Who owns google?
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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 01:40:16 am »
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google earth's scared me when i looked into a car window and couldn't see anybody using their street view. its in the middle of a road btw.

how creepy.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 01:42:10 am by monokekie »
well the limit can turn into a threshold..

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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 01:51:47 am »
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What's more scary is shit like myki and GPS. If someone wants to they can find out where you have been/where you are going. Too much personal shit is on computers. Oh well, no one's gonna look me up anytime soon so I don't care haha.

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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 01:54:39 am »
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Who owns google?
google? LOL. Nha 2 guys I think, wow, one of them is RUSSIAN (according to wikipedia)

0/ you make a valid point, nobody is forcing us, but when a company starts having going into every aspect of our lives, it ultiamtely does "butt in" to places without choosing it, if that makes sense?

Like lets say, i use Yahoo as my homepage, and use its search engine....well when i click the search result and go to a webpage u see on the top of the page, advetrisments BY google.

Also, the majority of websites use googles "ad-word" thing....to see where people are coming from etc.

@monokekei, i bet you the next tihng they will come up with is the ability to see the INSIDE of houses i.e. the floor plans...although that is far fetched.

One positive tihng though is, google has bowed to pressure to remove "sensitive" maps etc.


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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 02:05:32 am »
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And then there's Googlewave, which may have been mentioned in your post, but I still don't get what it is.

Why would anyone want to buy a computer if you can't even install your own software?
based from what i understood in wikipedia

Its a collaborative tool, I think predominately used by businesses. It integrates, e-mail, messenger etc to store documents, share them, edit them

It allows a timeline in chronological order to show who edited a document last etc

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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2009, 02:30:20 am »
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@monokekei, i bet you the next tihng they will come up with is the ability to see the INSIDE of houses i.e. the floor plans...although that is far fetched.

One positive tihng though is, google has bowed to pressure to remove "sensitive" maps etc.


:o:o sensitive maps?
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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 02:56:07 am »
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Google is a bloody hot stock. It's past the $500 level, with the new technologies $600 might not be a dream :o

Yet it only has a $185.6bn market cap; strange.

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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 07:04:20 am »
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Why would anyone want to buy a computer if you can't even install your own software?
It is an appliance more than a computer. You can't install software on your TV or fridge either.

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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 07:42:14 am »
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If you think about it, computer enthusiasts will stay with with Linux, mainstream computing is controlled by apple and Microsoft. Microsoft is going to stay the main player as it supports so much 3rd party software and it's OS is usually cracked in less than a year (for now).

Our life is loosing it's privacy already with facebook and myspace.
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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 12:04:19 pm »
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Chrome OS is Linux based

It must be crap.

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Re: I fear Google
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2009, 12:48:57 pm »
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Our life is loosing it's privacy already with facebook and myspace.
I agree with you, but then again they have a variety of "privacy" features.

I know slightly off topic, well not really. But I had myspace....moved to Facebook and I find the latter more safe and private. You can stop your profile coming up in the search queries, you can hide your DP and make your name not a hyperlink i.e. so people cannot add you or message you, and you can also hide your wall posts from your own friends on your list so that only you can read what people write to you.

There was a worldwide message to all FB users last few days from the creators of making it even MORE secure, which will be rolled out next few weeks or months.

In summary, people shouldn't post revealing things I guess ><


@Monokekie, some countries such as the USA, China, Russia have told google to "blur out" areas of sensitivity such as defence sites....missile bases....buildings etc so that people and countries don;t take advantage of doing "bad stuff" lol aka bomb  them