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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #120 on: March 29, 2008, 11:15:26 pm »
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1) if

is a quadratic function and its maximum value occurs at a point . is a point of

intersection of with x-axis and point is such that chord subtends a right

angle at . Find the area enclosed by and chord .

It's probably but I don't really feel like doing the tedious working out here.
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« Reply #121 on: March 30, 2008, 10:08:07 am »
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correct.
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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #122 on: March 30, 2008, 01:13:59 pm »
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how do u prove that ?
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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #123 on: March 30, 2008, 01:20:43 pm »
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how do u prove that ?
sandwich theorem
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« Reply #124 on: March 30, 2008, 02:31:03 pm »
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l'Hôpital's rule would also work.

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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #125 on: March 30, 2008, 03:53:36 pm »
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here are some fun questions to play around with:

1.


2.


3.


4.


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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #126 on: March 30, 2008, 04:12:40 pm »
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Sandwich rule:

Since :

, for large positive .

So, since





Use the same idea with 2. to get:
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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #127 on: March 30, 2008, 04:36:56 pm »
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By intuition, 3. is 0. Approaching from the left side will not be a problem, because you can still take the square root of a small negative number plus two.

Since :

The argument of the sine function will approach infinite as the approaches zero, which means a sandwich rule is required to deal with it.



Limits is basically using intuition first, algebra second.



For 4., just use the definition of the limit. It exists if the limits from both sides agree. Then, the limit takes the value of the limits from both sides.

and

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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #128 on: March 30, 2008, 04:49:30 pm »
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l'Hôpital's rule would also work.

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That's correct. However to compute the derivative of would require the knowledge of this limit, so it would be circular to use it to prove this limit. Unless you defined some other way, i.e. maclaurin series.
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« Reply #129 on: March 30, 2008, 04:56:50 pm »
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Yes, in my Semester 2 notes, I remember this exact limit.

"But how do we know this limit? Notice that L'Hopital is illegal here (why? The reason is that calculating the derivative of sine uses the very limit we're attempting to determine). And, high school proofs use the geometry of sine, but what we would like is a purely analytic proof (no pictures!). This isolates the real issue: analytically, we don't know what sine is! We'll leave the discussion here: we simply want to make the point that some limits (and functions) which we usually take for granted are not nearly as simple as presented. (The same remark can be made for the function , as it is not obvious how to define . It is standard to define as the limit of . But if we do that, then it's not at all obvious why . In fact, it's not even obvious what means, say for irrational." - Marty Ross

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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #130 on: March 30, 2008, 10:42:52 pm »
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thanks guys!
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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #131 on: March 30, 2008, 10:50:55 pm »
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No worries. Keep in mind what coblin and Ahmad pointed out though.

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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #132 on: April 05, 2008, 09:03:32 pm »
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Hey guys,

I've got another question..
Any help will be appreciated..


( btw ignore the imperial units- the in is metres (m) and the lb is kN )



EDIT:         : I've done the question.
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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #133 on: April 10, 2008, 09:02:28 pm »
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Here's one to test:
The area of the union of several circles equals . Prove that it is possible to choose several of them, that do not intersect each other and whose total area is greater than
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Re: Recreational Problems
« Reply #134 on: April 22, 2008, 07:25:37 pm »
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Determine whether the given function is a solution of the given initial value problem:


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