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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #90 on: October 14, 2010, 04:45:43 pm »
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lol

we are not saying we suport terrorism or any of that sort..

Would you be willing to receive help from an organization that has links to Hamas?
Yes.

I was actually on your side until I realised you don't even have any half-decent defence
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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #91 on: October 14, 2010, 05:33:07 pm »
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like i said previously.. if HAI was really linked to terrorism and all dat crap.. why does it even exist in Australia..

de facto argument is the equivalent of saying "it's not because it's not"
I don't really care if you take the laptops or not, I just think that your attitude is pretty atrocious and deliberately ignorant

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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #92 on: October 14, 2010, 05:36:40 pm »
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plus the media is definately not a gud source to find out reality... Any one can make up bullshit ..
Would you rather I infiltrate the Hamas ranks and find out for myself?

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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #93 on: October 14, 2010, 06:20:35 pm »
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STOP BULLYING EACH OTHER!

That is all.
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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #94 on: October 14, 2010, 07:45:40 pm »
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They should just build another holy land.

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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #95 on: October 14, 2010, 08:10:03 pm »
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like i said previously.. if HAI was really linked to terrorism and all dat crap.. why does it even exist in Australia..

de facto argument is the equivalent of saying "it's not because it's not"
I don't really care if you take the laptops or not, I just think that your attitude is pretty atrocious and deliberately ignorant

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If ur not hundred percent certain of anything dont just blabber it out..

Congratulations, you just eliminated the majority of all knowledge

wat the..???  wat attitude..???  you's are da one dat started da shit.. doesnt da message get thru ur thick head

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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #96 on: October 14, 2010, 08:10:28 pm »
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STOP BULLYING EACH OTHER!

That is all.

yes it shall end at this.. full stop.

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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #97 on: October 14, 2010, 08:15:07 pm »
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wat the..???  wat attitude..???  you's are da one dat started da shit.. doesnt da message get thru ur thick head

Don't think anything more needs to be said

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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #98 on: October 14, 2010, 08:49:59 pm »
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Why are you so concerned with halting debate? I for one think ninwa and enwiabe's comments are helping to move the thread into proper debate and am very interested to hear someone attempt logical opposition to Chavi's points.

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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #99 on: October 14, 2010, 08:54:05 pm »
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Fret not Russ. I have studied others like him before and I am fairly certain I can communicate effectively in his language

hello.. do u understand me..? i come from planet earth.. i am sory if my speaking is not as gud as urs.. i believe u and ur friend are in a state of denial.. on planet earth, you need evidnce to bak ur claims.. contest the evidence not the source (unless if the source is shiity, but the news links here are largely trustworthy) thank you.. Can we frend???

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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #100 on: October 14, 2010, 08:54:51 pm »
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plus the media is definately not a gud source to find out reality... Any one can make up bullshit ..

And what IS a "gud source to find out reality"? Ask HAI if they fund terrorism? Yes, let's do that.

Why are you so concerned with halting debate? I for one think ninwa and enwiabe's comments are helping to move the thread into proper debate and am very interested to hear someone attempt logical opposition to Chavi's points.

There is no debate it seems, it's just one side putting up an argument and the other acting childish and ignorant. Logical opposition would be appreciated here.
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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #101 on: October 14, 2010, 09:41:46 pm »
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Ah yes, unwittingly - but we know about this one. Would an organisation that would fund terrorism be giving away free laptops without some sort of ulterior motive? lol.
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_04/b3968074.htm
http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/sweatshops/saipan/SaipanLeaflet.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Foxconn_suicides
http://www.nosweat.org.uk/story/2009/03/31/un-attempts-force-sweatshop-production-haiti

Now you know of many :D

Anyway, devil advocate time. The dude with the atrocious spelling does raise an interesting point. If the links were that obvious, why are they still operating? I see Interpal has already been investigated thoroughly. The way I see it, the intentions of HiA are pure. However, due to the ascendancy of the Hamas over provisions in and out of Palestine, the HiA are forced into some sort of compromise. Hand over the goods or get blown to hell.

and the Australian branch of HAI was banned by Israel:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/charity-banned-for-aiding-terror/story-e6frg6nf-1111117064706

(btw, in an epic irony, you can clearly see hebrew writing from the Israeli aid delivered to the residents of Gaza)

1) Makes sense. After all, they were the state which placed a blockade banning humanitarian aid
2) Only under international obligations, sweetie.

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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #103 on: October 14, 2010, 09:58:05 pm »
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Re: free laptops for muslim students [offtopic]
« Reply #104 on: October 14, 2010, 10:32:54 pm »
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Anyway, devil advocate time. The dude with the atrocious spelling does raise an interesting point. If the links were that obvious, why are they still operating? I see Interpal has already been investigated thoroughly. The way I see it, the intentions of HiA are pure. However, due to the ascendancy of the Hamas over provisions in and out of Palestine, the HiA are forced into some sort of compromise. Hand over the goods or get blown to hell.
Oh, that's right. HAI are "forced" into "handing over" the money because they're afraid of being "blown to hell".

and the Australian branch of HAI was banned by Israel:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/charity-banned-for-aiding-terror/story-e6frg6nf-1111117064706

(btw, in an epic irony, you can clearly see hebrew writing from the Israeli aid delivered to the residents of Gaza)

1) Makes sense. After all, they were the state which placed a blockade banning humanitarian aid
2) Only under international obligations, sweetie.
Notwithstanding the fact that this isn't a debate about the merits of the Gaza blockade, you have to ask yourself:
1) Why is Gaza's border with Egypt also under blockade - and why is there a blockade in the first place?
2) What are Israel's "international obligations", if it withdrew to '67 border with Gaza in 2005?

Anyhow, to answer some of your other concerns.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6403
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The U.S. Senate Committee on Finance is currently investigating HAI for suspected ties to international Islamic terrorism. According to the FBI, Hamas operations in Jordan are carried out through HAI. As early as 1996, a CIA document linked HAI to the now-defunct Saudi-based charity Muwafaq, which the U.S. identified as an al Qaeda front organization. That document further named HAI as a fundraiser for Hamas.
That's right, turns out that they have links to the mother of all terror organizations, Al Quaeda

http://europenews.dk/en/node/12586
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Human Appeal International (HAI), a UAE government-run "charitable" organization, whose board includes the UAE president,77 continues to fund Hamas and other Palestinian organizations, .martyrs,. and Palestinian terrorists in Israeli prisons and their families. The HAI modus operandi includes transferring funds to the Palestinian Red Crescent, whose West Bank and Gaza branches Hamas runs. Hamas, in turn, distributes the money to Hamas “charities.”

So, why hasn't HAI been banned yet in Australia? Like was mentioned previously, it's only a matter of time - that's why their offices may still be open - but one should note, that there are legislators pushing for NGOs such as HAI to be criminalized in Australia.

Additionally, HAI along with a slew of other NGOs are appealing against Australia's anti-terror laws and legislation (conflict of interest much?)
http://www.crimeprevention.gov.au/www/agd/rwpattach.nsf/VAP/%28966BB47E522E848021A38A20280E2386%29~SLB+-+Submission+on+National+Security+Legislation+Amendment+Bill+2009+-+AMCRAN+October+2009.txt/
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