How to get into Medicine

[stonecold]

Hmm thanks for the info.

For me i would move interstate but the main concern is really whether i am able to take care of myself.

Also don't want to be a financial burden on parents.. So staying in melb would be an option..

But yes, if Medicine is your dream than do chase it. Friends and family here would be proud?

Yeah, although to be brutally honest, there aren't very many med opportunities in Victoria, so odds are you will have to move at some point.

Monash Undergrad is probably the most competitive direct undergrad entry in the country.  UTAS and Flinders are also very difficult for interstate school leavers though.

Then, there is graduate, which comprises of the MD at UoM (which will increase in competition by the time we can apply) and also MBBS at Monash and Deakin.  

It is rather slim pickings, and will take at least 7 years via graduate entry pathway here, IF you get in.  Moreover, from numerous posts I've read on MSO and pagingdr, they all say a med degree is virtually the same wherever you go.

Lots more opportunities interstate however. QLD has 3 undergrad/provisional Unis, NSW has 3, and SA has 2.

Even UTAS is a better option, because you can transfer into med there after one year of science or similar.  Monash does not allow this.

By all means go for Monash, but if you don't get in, then it will make things harder.

I suppose it depends how much you want to do med.  Either go interstate or risk 3 years on a science/biomed degree to get into grad med.

What actually happens if you 'fail' to meet the requirements of the GPA and the GAMSAT? What do you do then? gg life

Take an honours year to improve your GPA, if your uni allows you to do it.

And you can do the GAMSAT in the last AND second last year of your science degree, so you get two goes at it, unlike the UMAT.

But for grad entry, you can only have 3 preferences AUSTRALIA wide, and if you receive multiple interviews, you only get to choose 1.

For undergrad, you can apply everywhere, and do as many preferences as you like through the university admission centres and then as many interviews as you like too.

You'll probably get into Monash though, so I wouldn't get on hung up on it now.

It is just that everything rides on the UMAT unfortunately.

[aznboy50]

gg to someone who gets a 92%ile umat rank and a 99.85 atar.

[echenzi]

Life isn't gg. Not in Australia

Worse comes to worse drive trucks and become the next lindsay fox.

[Andiio]

Life isn't gg. Not in Australia

Worse comes to worse drive trucks and become the next lindsay fox.

I know, it was a joke ==

You can do almost anything you want in Australia, it just takes a certain amount of time - that's what's good for Australia, anyways.

[slothpomba]

I know this is been repeated around this place many times over but if you really want to get in, you will find a way there eventually.

(Apparently driving trucks is pretty lucrative if you do it in the mines in perth.)

[Russ]

But for grad entry, you can only have 3 preferences AUSTRALIA wide, and if you receive multiple interviews, you only get to choose 1.

You don't get to choose one, you only get offered one, it works the same way as preferences for VCE. (but if you're not accepted, they may pass your interview score to a later preference)

Also, MBBS at Deakin is very good from what I've seen and heard

[echenzi]

Hmm, does anyone also know about reports of insufficient intern numbers since all these new MBBS courses popped up?

[Russ]

Which "new" courses?

And yeah intern numbers are a growing concern, the government has currently guaranteed intern places for domestic (victorian) students. Given that it's going to be at least 6 years before you're in that position, things may well change before that.

Read some of these:
http://amsa.org.au/docs/intern-vic-response.pdf

[echenzi]

Hmm i'm not sure about the reason for intern numbers anymore, but didn't they used to be able to offer an internship to nearly every medical graduate?

Somehow, there will now be more graduates than intern positions available.

[Russ]

I think the government will eventually be forced to step in and commit the money to fixing the problem so I don't think it's a particularly pressing concern right now. In a couple of years, if things are still sliding then yes, it will be

[happyhappyland]

I dont think theres any new MBBS course but University of South Australia is opening a graduate entry medical course in the near future

[pi]

Thanks for the first post! (+1 post vote)

[daliu]

Update: I believe Monash have bumped up the required percentile that you need now to get into medicine to an unweighted section score of 195 (as of 2011; this is the sum of your three raw section scores) based purely on UMAT, plus a decent ATAR. However, in saying that, from what I gather there will be a lot more in the ATAR-UMAT stream, so in a sense ATAR is weighted more heavily than it was before.

There's still the Dean's Rural List/Indigenous List there as well, if you fall into that category.

[pi]

However, in saying that, from what I gather there will be a lot more in the ATAR-UMAT stream, so in a sense ATAR is weighted more heavily than it was before.

Just more on this, 90 ATAR+UMAT interviews were offered in 2011: http://www.med.monash.edu.au/medical/central/prospective-students.html (thanks luken93 for that info!)

Examples of this:
188 + 99.35 = Interview
192 + 97.8 = Interview
180 + 99.55 = No interview


So, I'm fairly certain that the UMAT is still weighed more than the ATAR when giving interviews. When offering places, the rumour is still that the three are weighed equally.

[REBORN]

^ what is 192 in terms of %le