UoM General Chat

[mahler004]

Also, we're adults for cry-sakes. Surely the university can trust people to make decisions for themselves? If they don't want to/can't turn up to class, that's their problem to deal with.

The problem from their perspective is when people don't show up to class and then demand lecture recordings.

edit: That was a little harsh in retrospect - the problem is that we're in some kind of in-between phase where 'on-campus' courses are effectively online courses half the time (all assessment bar exams are delivered online, and lectures are online) and people have come to rely on lecture recordings (for better or worse). Despite this, the university isn't really under any obligation to make sure that the lecture recording service, you know, actually works.

[vox nihili]

Just my two bobs on Lecture Capture:

I can see where lecturers coming from being annoyed about low attendance and people refusing to engage with them. Lecturing is a really hard gig and it can be really deflating when you walk into a room 3/4 empty talking to people who don't really care about what you're saying. In many ways, students are losing a lot of what uni is about: all of that incidental learning that comes from just chatting to lecturers and classmates.

BUT, though what I've said above is terribly frustrating and can be a bit of a kick in the guts for someone teaching a class, at the same time, Lecture Capture is a really critical to a lot of students. Absolutely it is used and abused (for example, people living at Colleges who still watch lectures online all the time?), but if I were lecturing I'd be happy to have my lectures recording, with the knowledge that students who, by virtue of their circumstances, have to live far away from Uni or have to work, or even have to look after their kid, still get access to an education at Australia's best university and all of the opportunities that come with that. Without Lecture Capture, people in those situations are excluded, and may not be able to complete their degrees, which, in my view, is just not good enough.

[Alter]

At any rate, it seems like all of the issues have been 'resolved' (I suppose this should be said tentatively aha) and all of the backlogged lectures are now online.

[Mieow]

To anyone who has applied for exchange:
did you need to order the official Academic Transcript or were you able to just send in the Statement of Results with your application?

[auds]

To anyone who has applied for exchange:
did you need to order the official Academic Transcript or were you able to just send in the Statement of Results with your application?

You need to order the official academic transcript

[Mieow]

You need to order the official academic transcript

Ahh I thought so - thank you!!
I'm going to dish out $40 just to be rejected but that's okay 

[boingo]

http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/bachelor-commerce

I'm doing an engineering breadth sequence with my Commerce degree. Does this mean I can't do the Master of Enginnering anymore when j complete the Commerce degree?

[spectroscopy]

http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/bachelor-commerce

I'm doing an engineering breadth sequence with my Commerce degree. Does this mean I can't do the Master of Enginnering anymore when j complete the Commerce degree?

if you are already enrolled then it doesnt affect you. if you started doing commerce with the engineering breadth sequence in 2016 or earlier it means that you have to do graduate engineering to become an accredited engineer.

[auds]

Ahh I thought so - thank you!!
I'm going to dish out $40 just to be rejected but that's okay 

It's really difficult to be rejected from the exchange program completely, unless you don't have a >65 WAM. Even if for some reason you don't manage to make any of your 3 preferences, the exchange officers work with you to find an alternative university that you'd be happy to go to

[notveryasian]

http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/study/bachelor-commerce

Really strange that they are doing this. Could it be the recent introduction of MEng with Business degrees which lead to this decision? Maybe the university wants to standardize their bachelor degrees and breadth pathways get in the way of that.

[h545]

Does anyone know when the 2017 handbook will be released?

[boingo]

if you are already enrolled then it doesnt affect you. if you started doing commerce with the engineering breadth sequence in 2016 or earlier it means that you have to do graduate engineering to become an accredited engineer.

Cheers. That's a bit of a relief haha, the pathway was one of the main reasons I chose Unimelb over Monash. Phew

Really strange that they are doing this. Could it be the recent introduction of MEng with Business degrees which lead to this decision? Maybe the university wants to standardize their bachelor degrees and breadth pathways get in the way of that.

I emailed Stop One, and the person who responded told me that the 2016 Commerce cohort will be the last who can do this pathway. Apparently, from next year on the maximum breadth you can do as part of a Commerce degree is 75 points instead of the 100 you can currently do. I'm guessing they've added some more compulsory subjects to the structure

[uoiea]

Apparently, from next year on the maximum breadth you can do as part of a Commerce degree is 75 points instead of the 100 you can currently do

I don't know if this applies to students who transfer into Comm 2017 at the end of this year, but knowing Melb uni, they'll probably be dicks

That'll be another 2 subjects I can't credit if I transfer   

[stolenclay]

I'm guessing they've added some more compulsory subjects to the structure

Some of the sample course plans for the commerce majors have already been updated to reflect this. From next year, Accounting Reports and Analysis and a new subject Principles of Finance are core for BCom. Farrago link

Seems that Principles of Finance replaces both Finance 1 and Business Finance, since I can't see either on any of the new sample course plans.

[Faith-PoweR]

Seems that Principles of Finance replaces both Finance 1 and Business Finance, since I can't see either on any of the new sample course plans.

I think Business Finance (or Corporate Finance) will be renamed to Corporate Financial Decision Making - which I'm pretty sure people would still call it Corp Fi for short.
http://bcom.unimelb.edu.au/majors/finance