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« Reply #12945 on: June 22, 2015, 10:04:15 am »
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Hey guys
Just wondering is it better off to do ESD2 in summer or Linear Algebra in summer??
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ESD2 content is easier and less abstract to grasp, by that logic I would say do ESD2 in Summer, allowing you the full 12 weeks to let Linear Alebra "sit" in your head.
That said ESD2 is perhaps more work in terms of assignments so it will be a busy summer semester... but probably easier.
In the long run probably not a HEAP of difference though to be honest, tho personally I'd have been totally screwed for Lin Alg if I only had 4-6weeks for it.
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« Reply #12946 on: June 22, 2015, 11:53:55 am »
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Hey guys
Just wondering is it better off to do ESD2 in summer or Linear Algebra in summer??
Thanks!

I did Linear Algebra over summer and found it really good. I found that the fast pace of learning that a summer subject entails is really suited for Maths. And, you can put all of your attention into it rather than diverting it between 3 other entirely different competing interests.

I did 4 MAST subjects over my Bachelor's. My average mark for them was 71.5. My mark for Linear Algebra over summer was 88.
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« Reply #12947 on: June 22, 2015, 12:10:07 pm »
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>:( i keep tossing up between doing QM2 and business decision analysis to finish off the quantitative requirement for commerce but i can not find a shred of information about business decision analysis anywhere </3

This is like me Data Analysis (don't know whether to do that or Calc 1) Reading the review for Calc 1 scares me :(

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« Reply #12948 on: June 22, 2015, 12:52:27 pm »
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>:( i keep tossing up between doing QM2 and business decision analysis to finish off the quantitative requirement for commerce but i can not find a shred of information about business decision analysis anywhere </3

I spoke briefly with someone who did it a while back, they said that it was a lot less maths-y and more general sort of stuff (if that helps at all hahah). They also said they found it easier than qm1, but that probably depends on whether you have a maths bent or not as it seems more subjective. I haven't had any friends do it though so I can't help you more then that sorry!
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« Reply #12949 on: June 22, 2015, 01:28:00 pm »
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>:( i keep tossing up between doing QM2 and business decision analysis to finish off the quantitative requirement for commerce but i can not find a shred of information about business decision analysis anywhere </3

I want to do BDA aswell to avoid QM lel

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« Reply #12950 on: June 22, 2015, 01:47:38 pm »
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If you're thinking about an Economics major and/or Finance major and you aren't doing the "mathematics pathway" you need to do either do QM2 or Intro Econometrics (prerequisites to 3rd year Finance major subjects and a 3rd year Econometrics subject). Just something to keep in mind when choosing the quantitative subjects you have to do.
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« Reply #12951 on: June 22, 2015, 03:10:30 pm »
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ESD2 content is easier and less abstract to grasp, by that logic I would say do ESD2 in Summer, allowing you the full 12 weeks to let Linear Alebra "sit" in your head.
That said ESD2 is perhaps more work in terms of assignments so it will be a busy summer semester... but probably easier.
In the long run probably not a HEAP of difference though to be honest, tho personally I'd have been totally screwed for Lin Alg if I only had 4-6weeks for it.

I did Linear Algebra over summer and found it really good. I found that the fast pace of learning that a summer subject entails is really suited for Maths. And, you can put all of your attention into it rather than diverting it between 3 other entirely different competing interests.

I did 4 MAST subjects over my Bachelor's. My average mark for them was 71.5. My mark for Linear Algebra over summer was 88.

Right.... Thanks for the help guys! I think i might pick Linear in summer since if i fail i can repeat it sem 1 next year. If i fail ESD2 i can't repeat it since it is not offered in Sem 1 -.-  Also, apparently i can't do calc 2 with linear without permission from the maths d department..
Damn, seem like i have to work hard in the holidays....
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« Reply #12952 on: June 22, 2015, 03:16:05 pm »
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Right.... Thanks for the help guys! I think i might pick Linear in summer since if i fail i can repeat it sem 1 next year. If i fail ESD2 i can't repeat it since it is not offered in Sem 1 -.-  Also, apparently i can't do calc 2 with linear without permission from the maths d department..
Damn, seem like i have to work hard in the holidays....

dang why would you want to do that tho...
I haven't done Lin. Alg yet and Calc 2 wasn't draining at all but I can't imagine myself doing two maths subjects in one semester
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« Reply #12953 on: June 22, 2015, 03:52:28 pm »
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oh gawd....my first semester results of postgrad -.- night and day difference compared to undergrad lol

Semester 2 starts next monday for us....gotta study moreee!
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« Reply #12954 on: June 22, 2015, 03:54:50 pm »
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dang why would you want to do that tho...
I haven't done Lin. Alg yet and Calc 2 wasn't draining at all but I can't imagine myself doing two maths subjects in one semester

defs failed calc 2 this sem haha. Nah im doing linear in summer.
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« Reply #12955 on: June 22, 2015, 03:59:55 pm »
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oh gawd....my first semester results of postgrad -.- night and day difference compared to undergrad lol

Semester 2 starts next monday for us....gotta study moreee!

Are you in first year of DDS? Care to share your experience so far :) Like workload compared to undergrad, etc. I would think (and hope) there's less pressure to get good grades compared to undergrad science/biomed, because you just need to pass everything to get your degree and eligibility to practice.
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« Reply #12956 on: June 22, 2015, 04:08:15 pm »
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oh gawd....my first semester results of postgrad -.- night and day difference compared to undergrad lol

Semester 2 starts next monday for us....gotta study moreee!

It only gets better. It's like the transition from high school to undergrad all over again, you'll soon get used to the more fast paced nature and reduced support as you become even more independent.

Are you in first year of DDS? Care to share your experience so far :) Like workload compared to undergrad, etc. I would think (and hope) there's less pressure to get good grades compared to undergrad science/biomed, because you just need to pass everything to get your degree and eligibility to practice.

Eligible to practice and employed to practice are not the same thing, unfortunately.

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« Reply #12957 on: June 22, 2015, 06:17:33 pm »
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Are you in first year of DDS? Care to share your experience so far :) Like workload compared to undergrad, etc. I would think (and hope) there's less pressure to get good grades compared to undergrad science/biomed, because you just need to pass everything to get your degree and eligibility to practice.

Regarding workload: For me the contact hours doubled and work load was significantly higher. But this is probably because I only did really easy subjects in undergrad and summer subjects helped reduce the load during normal semesters. I feel like first semester was only just the beginning, the timetable looks deceptively busy when it’s not actually. We are split into groups for many things other than lectures since you can’t fit 90 students into a single preclinical prac; you are assigned a number and have the same groups for everything. There were days when we didn’t have to go in at all because of the split groups. I’ve heard that upper years have 8-5pm every day though.

There is a ridiculously easy subject in first semester of DDS1 called "Introduction to Professional Practice". I daresay it’s easier than most undergrad breadth subjects. It’s not that hard to pass the course, but you need to try a lot harder to get H1. Like memorise and learn the details of the studies mentioned in lectures as you will need to reference them in your exam answers. It's not like undergrad where only stuff from lecture slides are examinable. You will need to do extra research as lecture slides alone aren't even close to being adequate.

But you know what I absolutely love about DDS?? The comradery and how close everyone is. The environment is very different to undergrad. It’s almost like high school again seeing the same people every day and having the same classroom every day. We have 2 excellent class reps who basically handle everything except your laundry. Our facebook group is a wealth of knowledge, tips, jokes etc. Everyone shares their exam answers, asks questions, gives tips and provide updates.

You still want to try your hardest since everyone else is extremely motivated and intelligent, so you get swept up in the excitement. It’s a different kind of pressure from undergrad. In undergrad, I wanted to do good to get into DDS. In postgrad, I want to do good because I care about what im learning and this is something that will be my job for next 40 years so I better damn well be good at it. I don’t want to let my patients down and make mistakes because I skimmed through uni.

It only gets better. It's like the transition from high school to undergrad all over again, you'll soon get used to the more fast paced nature and reduced support as you become even more independent. 

Hopefully! My first year of undergrad was my worst as well.

Eligible to practice and employed to practice are not the same thing, unfortunately.

I was hoping this wasn't the case in dentistry :( Do your marks affect your chances of getting a job? I thought they wouldn't ask about my marks. At least for med, you get an internship no matter what your marks are.
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« Reply #12958 on: June 22, 2015, 08:09:55 pm »
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Hello from a fellow DDS1!  :P

Regarding workload: For me the contact hours doubled and work load was significantly higher. But this is probably because I only did really easy subjects in undergrad and summer subjects helped reduce the load during normal semesters. I feel like first semester was only just the beginning, the timetable looks deceptively busy when it’s not actually. We are split into groups for many things other than lectures since you can’t fit 90 students into a single preclinical prac; you are assigned a number and have the same groups for everything. There were days when we didn’t have to go in at all because of the split groups. I’ve heard that upper years have 8-5pm every day though.
Mm, I agree with you on the timetabling part - I would definitely say we have fewer contact hours per week than undergrad med, and perhaps even some of the more hour-heavy engineering/science disciplines (in my undergrad science degree, having 20-25 contact hours especially due to labs was not uncommon). That being said, we do have 16 week semesters rather than the usual 12 (which is fine by me; I'd rather have more numerous but shorter weeks, even if it means sacrificing some holiday time  :P). I did probably spend more time at uni this semester than in my later undergrad years, simply because most of our lectures were not recorded by default.

There is a ridiculously easy subject in first semester of DDS1 called "Introduction to Professional Practice". I daresay it’s easier than most undergrad breadth subjects. It’s not that hard to pass the course, but you need to try a lot harder to get H1. Like memorise and learn the details of the studies mentioned in lectures as you will need to reference them in your exam answers. It's not like undergrad where only stuff from lecture slides are examinable. You will need to do extra research as lecture slides alone aren't even close to being adequate.

I personally don't think it's necessary to know all the studies mentioned in the lectures for this subject (my revision was based almost purely on lecture notes, which seemed to be sufficient in my opinion). Of course, doing extra research probably would have paid off quite well. That being said, when the lecturer attempts to get through 90 slides in a 50 minute lecture, basically reading off the slides for the most part, I think it can make the lectures seem a bit superficial. I guess the purpose of the unit is to gain exposure to ideas, have knowledge of the key trends that will affect the dental workforce/practice and develop a mindset that will allow us to practice effectively - which I think was reflected in the assessment, rather than examination of relatively minute detail. In some sense, I think that made the subject 'easier'. I still enjoyed the subject a reasonable amount though.

But you know what I absolutely love about DDS?? The comradery and how close everyone is. The environment is very different to undergrad. It’s almost like high school again seeing the same people every day and having the same classroom every day. We have 2 excellent class reps who basically handle everything except your laundry. Our facebook group is a wealth of knowledge, tips, jokes etc. Everyone shares their exam answers, asks questions, gives tips and provide updates.

I agree with this, 110% of the way. Our class reps are fantastic in pretty much every way. Their communication with the faculty and in passing our queries on was excellent. I can definitely say that I would not have done as well, without our Facebook group. The collaboration there was really helpful to learning. Without being particularly socially proactive, I still managed to exceed my goal of learning one person's name and face each week :P. The supportive aspect of our cohort has definitely been a major plus.

You still want to try your hardest since everyone else is extremely motivated and intelligent, so you get swept up in the excitement. It’s a different kind of pressure from undergrad. In undergrad, I wanted to do good to get into DDS. In postgrad, I want to do good because I care about what im learning and this is something that will be my job for next 40 years so I better damn well be good at it. I don’t want to let my patients down and make mistakes because I skimmed through uni.

I have to agree with this as well. It reminds me of our problem-based learning exercise. From what I heard, the size of our flowcharts for our disease aetiology just kept increasing, because people wanted to make sure they were doing the same amount of work as the rest of the cohort! It's a good motivation to learn - even just knowing that those around you will hand in every piece of assessment provides incentive. And yes, we want to be professional and really care for our patients, and we've had that drummed into us from the start (which is a good thing IMO), even though we still obviously have a long way to go in our journey.

Hopefully! My first year of undergrad was my worst as well.
Ahh, I'm the complete opposite! I reckon I was most like a model student in 1st year, and gradually picked up worse study habits :P.

I was hoping this wasn't the case in dentistry :( Do your marks affect your chances of getting a job? I thought they wouldn't ask about my marks. At least for med, you get an internship no matter what your marks are.

I'd like a bit more info about this too. Personally, while being eligible to practise upon graduation, I'm considering working in the public sector in order to gain a bit more experience before moving into private dentistry. I imagine we're still subject to the rules of demand and supply - if there's more applicants than positions, we have to be selected somehow. Maybe if you decide to work in a rural area, or other places where dentists might be underrepresented, it might be a bit easier to find a position. But I think your marks wouldn't stop you from opening your own private practice when you graduate (though obviously there'd be more factors going into such a decision). Just throwing a couple of ideas out there (no doubt inspired by Intro to Professional Dental Practice :P ).

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« Reply #12959 on: June 22, 2015, 11:15:17 pm »
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anyone know anyone who has taken 'communicating science and technology' breadth subject on offer in semester 2, 2016, and could comment on the workload and assessment?
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I found the masters subject to be time-consuming but rewarding. However, comparing the unit outline for the undergrad and masters versions of the subject: the writing task is shorter (1500 words vs 2000); the required blog contribution is shorter (1500 words / 3 posts vs 2000 words / 4 posts); no oral presentation for the undergrad subject; and the group project sounds less challenging. When I did the subject, the group project was really the killer, taking up several hours a week for most of the semester. But the expectation for masters students would be significantly higher than for a second-year subject, so I don't know exactly what would be involved in the undergrad subject.
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