How was it?

[Russ]

Where on the ACER website does it say that, because I'm pretty sure they're not. Google Item Response Theory if you want to know how it's scored.

[Graphite]

The website does say something like "All questions are worth the same, candidates are encouraged to answer all questions as incorrect responses are not penalised" or something along those lines. But yea, heaps of people say that's wrong. Perhaps they aren't lying in the sense that they are worth 1 mark each before moderation.

[pi]

From UMAT info booklet 2011 (pg 11)

All questions have the same value, therefore by attempting
as many questions as possible you stand the best chance of
maximising your score.

I don't believe it though

[jane1234]

The test may contain a small number of trial questions which will not contribute to candidate scores.

That is so bull shit.  How can it be "fair" for candidates to waste time on questions that wont even count.

I bet they purposely put these "trial" questions at the front of the paper just to ensure you waste pointless time on them...

i agree, but i think the questions were the abacus one and the pearl one are the trial ones since not every1 got those questions which were in the middle of the paper... =( they shud put them down as bonus questions or something at the end and be like if u get all 4 correct you can get an extra 2 points or sumthing.. which gives the incentive to not only do the questions but at the same time does not hinder alot of ppl since they can choose not to do it also reduces the chances of guessin all 4 correct and people who do get all 4 correct most likely would have done it properly.
In addition the pearl question could be harder than the abacus one or the other way around and in turn means that not every1 had the same testing situation which could be considered unfair, however this is the UMAT afterall and nothing is fair in it lols =P.

It would be pretty stupid on their part to use the harder questions as non-scorable "trial" questions because it will make it harder to separate people. If they did have hidden trial questions, it would make more sense to be the easy ones because most people would have gotten them anyway...
... I hope all of section 2 was made up of trial questions though...

[tony3272]

From UMAT info booklet 2011 (pg 11)

All questions have the same value, therefore by attempting
as many questions as possible you stand the best chance of
maximising your score.

I don't believe it though

That really doesn't sound right. Unless it's something like: 'all questions are worth the same amount of marks, but some are not marked and some are marked more than once to increase your score'

[pi]

... I hope all of section 2 UMAT was made up of trial questions though...

+1

[BoredSatan]

pretty sure a key part of the umat is to know which questions to skip (or to make educated guesses).. most likely those will be the ones that wont count

[mystikal]

pretty sure a key part of the umat is to know which questions to skip (or to make educated guesses).. most likely those will be the ones that wont count

... but if the hard questions are the trial ones... then there is no point in the UMAT then coz there are going to be some hard ones to seperate the smart ones from the average minded and they would have to count. also all the trial questions are not hard, "it is a trial" afterall which means they are testing the difficulty of the question amongst a sample population for future uses. yea...  UMAT = lame

[Greatness]

lets just forget about all this bullshit and hope for a good result!

[Jdog]

FUCK. I am soo worried about the UMAT

everyone says it was really easy, and they aced section 3. I had to guess 3-4 in section 3, and not sure of a couple of others!
and also section 1, people said was really straight forward, I think I did alright, but nowhere close to acing!

and section 2, I don't think anyone can be sure of that.

its so disconcerting to hear peoplle saying they dominated it

[Greatness]

FUCK. I am soo worried about the UMAT

everyone says it was really easy, and they aced section 3. I had to guess 3-4 in section 3, and not sure of a couple of others!
and also section 1, people said was really straight forward, I think I did alright, but nowhere close to acing!

and section 2, I don't think anyone can be sure of that.

its so disconcerting to hear peoplle saying they dominated it

:s who have you been talking to? almost everyone i know said that it was incredibly hard! And you had to guess 3-4? I guessed like 50% of S1, and even more for S2....
Dont worry about it, if everyone found it hard then hopefully it will work out in the end!

[pi]

^^I think I've been talking to the same ppl as Jdog actually, except they were VERY depressed about S2

[Romperait]

pretty sure a key part of the umat is to know which questions to skip (or to make educated guesses).. most likely those will be the ones that wont count

I don't see how that can possibly be a key part of the umat if you just do every question to the best of your ability. Then if there are trial questions, so what? You did your best for all of them.

[nemolala]

i just want to know why a test like the UMAT can really indicate whether you will be a good candidate for a med student or not. doesn't make sense why is so important.

[thushan]

It doesn't. It's only used by Monash for convenience. Better to interview 600 applicants rather than 6000.