University Enhancement Increment

[taiga]

What do you guys think of the lack of a dedicated increment for Uni Subjects which is apparently coming in next year?

I did think it was a bit unfair that to compete at the very very top end of VCE (99.90+) it is almost a necessity, but I also don't like the fact that your effort in that subject doesn't translate directly to a mark which "counts" to your vce.

What're your thoughts?

[taiga]

Especially with the restrictions still in place at melbourne high and other schools, some would benefit while others would not.

Yeah I actually see this as a valid reason as to why Melbourne High School students have such a huge proportion of 99.90s and not many 99.95s.

A lot of the 99.90 students at our school class of 2010 actually had ridiculous scores of 49+ in their bottom two, and in my opinion an HD at University is considerably easier than gaining a 50 in a subject. So I guess this should see it evening up at least.

Yeah it is extremely rare to see 99.95s without a language, or without Specialist Maths. I guess it's not exactly level at the top end =\

I do like your suggestion of a maximum 5.0 though, I think that would be a valid trade off for an HD (still more than it's worth IMO, but doesn't allow people to get an extra 0.5 that no one else has access to).

[gossamer]

Where did you hear about it taiga? I haven't seen/heard anything about this except on here..

[REBORN]

I can confirm it's being scrapped....it's going to be renamed a "Higher Education Study" and replaced with the 'avg of primary4'

---> @Bazza: If VET were as easy as you make it seem everyone would take it. It still has assignments and compulsory work placements.

Proof:

The current Extension Studies will become part of a new, broader program, Higher Education Studies within the VCE. This program will commence in 2012.

The program will make available first year higher education studies drawn from bachelor degrees offered through both universities and TAFE. These are studies that are an extension of VCE studies or comprise curriculum not offered in any VCE studies.

The higher education study will contribute to satisfactory completion of the VCE as an unscored Units 3 and 4 sequence. VTAC advises that this may count towards the student’s ATAR as a fifth or sixth study. For more information on how it contributes to your ATAR please contact VTAC.

The VCAA will publish the higher education studies available in 2012 on this web page. This information will be available in August next year.

Principles and Procedures for the inclusion of Higher Education Studies in the VCE (DOC - 99 KB)
This document explains the new arrangements for 2012.

[stonecold]

Not knowing about/completing a uni subject cost me dearly in the end.

IMO, VCE will only ever be fair when they force everyone to take one English, one maths, one humanities, one science, one LOTE and one enhancement uni subject/free choice subject.  But then it will be criticised for a lack of freedom and choice.

Overall I think this a move in the right direction, but the system just blows and need to be completely overhauled/ditched.

[REBORN]

^ If you had taken VET your increment would have been 4.875.

But I agree...VCE blows and I hate the ESL system. Freaking fluent english speakers are smashing out 50 in ESL....loophole!

[stonecold]

^ If you had taken VET your increment would have been 4.875.

But I agree...VCE blows and I hate the ESL system. Freaking fluent english speakers are smashing out 50 in ESL....loophole!

Yeah, I am not exactly sure.  But, I had 4.4 for my methods increment.  If I had gotten 5.0 for uni increment last year (don't want to sound cocky but I would have done it easily) then I would not be in this stupid mess I am in now.

Then again if I had not rubbed out workings on my methods exam 2 I would not be in this situation anymore either... :/

[REBORN]

ssh

nah, there were other reasons. PM if you wna know.

[taiga]

ssh

nah, there were other reasons. PM if you wna know.

The reason is there's a hot girl doing that VET class as well

[REBORN]

Amusingly that's very true.

[chem-nerd]

It is changing its name to "Higher Education" studies, but the increment it will provide is listed below.
(Source: VICTER 2014 page 6 and 7, and confirmed by VTAC)

Upon satisfactory completion, the increment will be determined as follows:
•   Where a student completes a Higher Education VCE study and the average mark over all the HE units awarded is at least 90, the Higher Education increment will be 5.0.
•   Where a student completes a Higher Education VCE study and the average mark over all the HE units awarded is at least 80 but less than 90, the Higher Education increment will be 4.5.
•   Where a student completes a Higher Education VCE study and the average mark over all the HE units awarded is at least 70 but less than 80, the Higher Education increment will be 4.0.
•      Where a student completes a Higher Education VCE study and the average mark over all the HE units awarded is at least 60 but less than 70, the Higher Education increment will be 3.5.
•   Where a student completes a Higher Education VCE study and the average mark over all the HE units awarded is at least 50 but less than 60, the Higher Education increment will be 3.0.

EDIT:  This increment system will be applied from 2012 onwards

[taiga]

That makes it more representative of the effort you put in then

[REBORN]

wow wtf...

I'd love this but I already have VET :/

I'd pretty much (not to sound arrogant) smash HES Psych and get the 5.0 but my other VET is avg of primary 4 so essentially I ride everything on my primary 4....

If I get say a 45 avg on primary4 I get 4.5 from VET + 5 from HES Psych = 9.5/10 bottom2!!!!!

...sounds sick in theory but impossible in practice! =P

if only I was good @Eng....I swear I'd do it :/

[REBORN]

If I was confident that I'd get a 40 in English I'd do it but I'm going to get a 30 and thus primary4 is going 2b' shit :/

[Lasercookie]

possibly to get a direct link to VCAA or something? i'm still surprised all these sources were wrong

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/studiesextension.html#H2N1007B