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Antidiff question
« on: August 15, 2011, 07:46:33 pm »
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Ok guys I've honestly got no clue here. This is off a Insight Exam, Exam 1 so no calculator.
Remember to keep it within the VCE Spesh course.

Question 7
Given and y=1 when x=0. (NOTE: that is NOT a typo)
Find the value of y when .
Worth 4 marks.
First step of the solution, they give
Final answer is
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Re: Antidiff question
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 08:00:04 pm »
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Just solve the differential equation to find y(x) and then find y(root3).

To integrate that, let x=sin(u)/2.

You'll notice that 1-4x^2 turns into 1-sin^2(u) and if u root that u just get cos^2(u). And from there you can just do the standard integration techniques for solving trig.
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Re: Antidiff question
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 08:05:55 pm »
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OK so I just want to make sure I get this. We want something to replace the 1-4x2 so that it becomes integratable (I don't think that is a word)? So that means we try to make the 1-4x^2 into a trig function? Yes? I think I get what you mean, I just don't know how you saw that.
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Re: Antidiff question
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 08:14:08 pm »
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Ok I'm still not quite there yet, could you show a little bit of working? please?
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Re: Antidiff question
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 08:15:12 pm »
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google search trig substitution.
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Re: Antidiff question
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 08:15:39 pm »
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OK so I just want to make sure I get this. We want something to replace the 1-4x2 so that it becomes integratable (I don't think that is a word)? So that means we try to make the 1-4x^2 into a trig function? Yes? I think I get what you mean, I just don't know how you saw that.

Yes, its trigonometric substitution. For that example, (sinu)/2 was the best bet (or (cosu)/2) for the pythagorean identity.

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Re: Antidiff question
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 08:37:11 pm »
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Ok I'm still not quite there yet, could you show a little bit of working? please?

Click the show steps button: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+%282x^2%29*%281-4x^2%29^1%2F2
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Re: Antidiff question
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 08:38:21 pm »
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Ok I'm still not quite there yet, could you show a little bit of working? please?

Click the show steps button: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+%282x^2%29*%281-4x^2%29^1%2F2
Lol, Exaclty what I was doing.
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Re: Antidiff question
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 12:06:52 am »
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For some reason I thought trig substitution wasn't on the course, :|
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