So...who DIDN'T write on the 'Comments' for Language Analysis?

[mattshen]

im not even sure...because the girl in that depicts what Day is contending and that is modern society sees tattoos as a fashion accessory through 'mum wants one now' and 'i show it off'. Anyways i was wrong because i said ALL of the images and comments oppose Day's contention :/

[jinny1]

better than me bro.. i said shes a dumb mindless bitch who epitomise today's generation of those sitting on the fence and just spitting pointless dribble that spam up the internet..

[tanya.j]

I saw the comment from 'kiwi' and sort of linked the image and the two together,

I did that too. i linked kiwi dude's comment with the ta mako's tatto picture. but i full analysied the persuasive techniques in kiwi's comments as there were so many :O
that has become a useless para hsnt it?

the only thing of daay's i analysed was the number of followers and the inclusion of a comments section

THAT WAS THE SHITTEST ARTICLE ON THIS WHOLE PLANET! OH WAIT, IT WASN'T EVEN AN ARTICLE..IT WAS A BLOG -________________-'

[viv7220]

I wrote about the comments in my conclusion
to emphasize how successful day was in her argument and what the audiences reactions to her blog was...
 
because the comments wernt actually the writers P.O.V

[FromBaghdadWithLove]

i said she included the comment to involve her audience and followers in the dissucssion so that expert advice and public opinion can be shared, giving her creditably.

[hailvce]

i have a feeling the assessors will be looking to reward those who did analyse and compare/contrast the view Day to the comments....

i think it might separate many of the analyses, from a 6 to a 7 or 8 and ultimately a 9 and 10 for the really good students

[Anon123]

i have a feeling the assessors will be looking to reward those who did analyse and compare/contrast the view Day to the comments....

i think it might separate many of the analyses, from a 6 to a 7 or 8 and ultimately a 9 and 10 for the really good students

just saying, but to even look at each comment individually would require like a 10 paragraph language analysis. You want to compare it as well? Add another 5 or so paragaphs. no thanks

[geoff_821]

Of course you have to analyse the comments. Haven't you guys done the language analysis where a principal writes a newsletter on banning mobile phones at school, then a parent writes a letter in reply to the newsletter. You had to analyse the letter despite it not being written by the writer (in this case, the principal).
The comments act similarly to this letter, but in a smaller version.

Think about it, if someone posts an argument on this forum and you disagree with their contention, and someone has already commented with a similar viewpoint as you. It's gonna have an effect on you, you feel more inclined to follow through with your disagreement because someone else in the community shares the same idea.

I don't want to be blunt, but if you didn't analyse the comments, the range of language analysis' you practised with may not have been broad enough

[Anon123]

Of course you have to analyse the comments. Haven't you guys done the language analysis where a principal writes a newsletter on banning mobile phones at school, then a parent writes a letter in reply to the newsletter. You had to analyse the letter despite it not being written by the writer (in this case, the principal).
The comments act similarly to this letter, but in a smaller version.

Think about it, if someone posts an argument on this forum and you disagree with their contention, and someone has already commented with a similar viewpoint as you. It's gonna have an effect on you, you feel more inclined to follow through with your disagreement because someone else in the community shares the same idea.

I don't want to be blunt, but if you didn't analyse the comments, the range of language analysis' you practised with may not have been broad enough

I would love to hear how long your response for language analysis would then be.

I would assume you write no less than 3 body paragraphs for the actual article itself, if not 4 [life myself and what most others do for normal articles and w/e], any less and you aren't analysing it that well.

So then you are going to analyse each comment? Well ok, that would require at the bare minimum a paragraph each...no thanks...

Broad range of articles? How many do you think we are expected to look at? I myself did only 2 language analysis full essays, but also looked at about another 15 or so and made plans for them. None of them had comments or anything remotely similar....Just because you either got lucky and happened to find the "right" analysis or looked at like ten thousand sample pieces doesn't give you the right to say shit about others.

[Panicmode]

Of course you have to analyse the comments. Haven't you guys done the language analysis where a principal writes a newsletter on banning mobile phones at school, then a parent writes a letter in reply to the newsletter. You had to analyse the letter despite it not being written by the writer (in this case, the principal).
The comments act similarly to this letter, but in a smaller version.

Think about it, if someone posts an argument on this forum and you disagree with their contention, and someone has already commented with a similar viewpoint as you. It's gonna have an effect on you, you feel more inclined to follow through with your disagreement because someone else in the community shares the same idea.

I don't want to be blunt, but if you didn't analyse the comments, the range of language analysis' you practised with may not have been broad enough

Wow, wish I was as smart as you. You can definitely rub your amazing analysis in my face when you get your 50 in English because obviously we all missed out big time.

[Water]

Hmmm...

Not being a prick.... But........


http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/english/pastexams/2004english.pdf

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/english/pastexams/2005english.pdf

[Panicmode]

Hmmm...

Not being a prick.... But........


http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/english/pastexams/2004english.pdf

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/english/pastexams/2005english.pdf

You're not a prick at all

But... please not on the 2004 exam it clearly states both so there really isn't any ambiguity on the matter. Also, in the 2005 exam, students were only asked to analyse the first page (it says only analyse the first page). So it's not like this is exactly the same situation.

I ended up analysing the comments. I'm just saying that to state, "Of course you had to analyse the comments" and to insinuate that those who didn't analyse the comments had under prepared was not fair.

[Anon123]

Hmmm...

Not being a prick.... But........


http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/english/pastexams/2004english.pdf

http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/english/pastexams/2005english.pdf

2004: In a coherently constructed piece of prose, analyse the ways in which language is used to present a point of
view in both the principal’s newsletter article and the parent’s letter found on pages 14 and 15.
-has nothing to do with the comments, read the question please; and this is an even split between two different things, its just comparing and shit; completely different

2005: Read the question? Unless I am interpreting this wrong;

In a coherently constructed piece of prose, analyse the ways in which language is used to present a point of
view in the magazine article The Write Stuff  found on page 14
-thats just the one article

nice try....

also I don't know about you, but I try to look at VCAA exams with the current study design as well as commercial exams for the current study design, not saying that you shouldn't look at other things, but to suggest (not that you were) that this is something we SHOULD HAVE looked at is quite silly...

[Water]

This is quite amazing, that I have to put this "blatantly" put.

Of course, none of these papers would be an "exact" replica, or hold extremely close parallels, but such "such techniques" like comments, and other information have been used in previous years in connection with an article. Whether it be image, headline, letter to the editors and what not, they had one purpose - to be analyzed.

These older generation people (2004 - 2005), had to do far and much more than us. 30 minutes for a Language Analysis and successful ones were 600 words or more and were insightful. They were also asked to contrast and parallel. The comments hold similar features, compare and contrast with the article and then its intended effect.

Of course, it is "unfortunate," that many would have left out the comment. But what would be its purpose then? If one included the comments, they would get extra points for it. It is of course, a feature of the article. I am not condemning neither am I supporting about the comments here. But I am just putting into perspective that VCAA has done such things like this as before.

[Anon123]

But they clearly haven't...you just tried to show us evidence; which wasn't actually evidence at all...lol?

Yes it would be wrong to COMPLETELY ignore the comments, I just wrote a paragraph about what it means by allowing for comments; although I hardly think that is right...

I stand by that analysing each comment would require a paragraph each or otherwise have a really shallow, and IMO useless one-two sentence analysis of each one..