Monash General Chat

[anna.xo]

Late, because I'm sure the tutor will let it slide, and mark you present. (I'm not sure about your tutes, but my ones are compulsory for 10% of the mark).

^This. Some might be a little touchy about it but they really have no choice. It might bring down your participation marks but defs not attendance.

Thanks guys. I honestly hate walking in late; it feels so disrespectful haha.

[scarletmoon]

(that reads as a bit of an attack, but I'll assume otherwise)

Just my personal opinion based on my own observations, but I wasn't super convinced that 1) people knew exactly what was going on with patients, and 2) that treatments were particularly well-targeted. Acute-care psych seemed to me to have a lot of "it could be this, let's throw the kitchen sink at it and see what sticks and what doesn't over time", which I really didn't like. Furthermore, even in my short stint in psych, there were many patients who were admitted more than once, which suggests to me that there isn't an amazing link between in-patient and out-patient services.

Just my $1.45 on it though, I'm sure other students had differing experiences.

Sorry I certainly did not mean it to be an attack, I am interested in going into psychiatry and had never heard anyone say it was under resourced before.

[pi]

wouldn't that be because psych isn't really based off physical symptoms which can be tested but rather assumptions based on behaviour and feelings of patients, which is more subjective hence assumptions are needed?

Definitely true, very subjective and one of the reasons why I think psych is so challenging. But either way, I think it's still under-resourced. For example, with bipolar affective disorder we haven't really found anything amazing since lithium (which was ageeees ago). That's probably because there is still a lot unknown how a lot of these conditions develop, heck there's even a good theory that they may just be one mental disorder and what we call anxiety or depression or schizophrenia may just be different points of severity along the same spectrum.

and a lot of people with mental health issues seem to be less willing to treat the issues as opposed to someone with a physical issue.

Not only that, but many also have no insight at all that they have a problem. Which leads to noncompliance and effectively "locking them up" in acute wards on Treatment Orders until they get better. Unfortunately many relapse as out-patients which must be so frustrating to psychiatrists.

Sorry I certainly did not mean it to be an attack, I am interested in going into psychiatry and had never heard anyone say it was under resourced before.

Not a worry, I had a feeling I may have read too much into it! Psych is an interesting field, definitely one that would be rewarding as you can really transform the lives of people. But yeah, just not for me

[Alwin]

Ooh...could you post up what they say? I'm interested in both Finance and Actuarial Science (or maybe Economics). I'm not sure what to major in. Two would great.

Boy this thread moves fast, or maybe I'm just slow hmm. Anyways, I went and asked and this is what I found out:
1. For my intake (2014), there is a very large overlap between Finance and Actuarial, something like 5 or 6 units that overlap. Note that your degree is probably different from mine, e.g. I think they've changed the aero degree every year for the past 3 years (don't ask me why...)
2. Technically, it is possible for me to complete 8 Finance units and 8 Actuarial units + 6 core units without having to do any extra commerce units (still 16 commerce, 26 engineering)
3. However, there is a faculty rule that states only 2 units (not including compulsory ones) can overlap for separate majors. e.g. I could do all 6 overlapping units, but only 2 could count to Finance and Actuarial. So I could end up with a Finance major made up of:
2 Finance only units, 4 Overlapping units that only count towards finance, 2 Overlapping units that count towards finance and actuary, 2 actuary only units.
So, I'd satisfy requirements for a Finance Major (8 units) but not the Actuary Major (4 units). Or if I chose to major in Actuary with the exact same units I could, but I couldn't get the Finance Major as well.

I hope that makes sense, but tl;dr you can choose units from different majors if you want, but ultimately you can only end up with one major.

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EDIT: Oh, and I saw some messages about PASS sessions. Last year I didn't register and rocked up with my friend who had registered to see what PASS was like. At the end of the session the PASS leader said that he'd be happy for me to stay for the entire semester even though I hadn't registered. So...

[ShortBlackChick]

Thanks guys. I honestly hate walking in late; it feels so disrespectful haha.

Ahahaha so do I, and I guess it is disrespectful but sometimes shit happens like you woke up late or there's fkn traffic or you drove around for half an hour trying to find parking or walking up that hill up Wellington Road after parking at Synchnotron killed you or there was a line at Neptune's for fkn $2.80 mini chips or some dumbass took the lift to get to level 1 of Menzies. potentially all in the same day

But god knows making sure I meet the attendance requirement to pass the unit is far more important than disrespecting the tutor, they can deal with those mental scars themselves

[Aaron]

Thanks guys. I honestly hate walking in late; it feels so disrespectful haha.

As a former tutor, I would say turning up late is better than not turning up at all. It only becomes an issue if it's a recurring thing - because it demonstrates a lack of time management, organisation and ultimately shows disrespect to the tutor & your studies. I can recall a specific scenario last year when I was tutoring, where a student would continually enter the class 45-60 mins late and would simply come in, not apologise and just basically interrupt the flow of the tutorial when the tutorial was in motion.

If you're ever turning up late, make sure you apologise as a courtesy to the tutor. It goes a long way and partially repairs that anger they have towards you internally for being late!

[anna.xo]

Ahahaha so do I, and I guess it is disrespectful but sometimes shit happens like you woke up late or there's fkn traffic or you drove around for half an hour trying to find parking or walking up that hill up Wellington Road after parking at Synchnotron killed you or there was a line at Neptune's for fkn $2.80 mini chips or some dumbass took the lift to get to level 1 of Menzies. potentially all in the same day

But god knows making sure I meet the attendance requirement to pass the unit is far more important than disrespecting the tutor, they can deal with those mental scars themselves

HAHAHA I agree with everything you said. And daaaaamn, that would be some day !

As a former tutor, I would say turning up late is better than not turning up at all. It only becomes an issue if it's a recurring thing - because it demonstrates a lack of time management, organisation and ultimately shows disrespect to the tutor & your studies. I can recall a specific scenario last year when I was tutoring, where a student would continually enter the class 45-60 mins late and would simply come in, not apologise and just basically interrupt the flow of the tutorial when the tutorial was in motion.

If you're ever turning up late, make sure you apologise as a courtesy to the tutor. It goes a long way and partially repairs that anger they have towards you internally for being late!

Tutes for us aren't compulsory and I know I have to miss a couple in a row because of work commitments so I'm leaning towards showing up. But I think more than half an hour late isn't really worth it and I'd feel awful walking in like that. Thanks for your insight

[Orson]

Boy this thread moves fast, or maybe I'm just slow hmm. Anyways, I went and asked and this is what I found out:
1. For my intake (2014), there is a very large overlap between Finance and Actuarial, something like 5 or 6 units that overlap. Note that your degree is probably different from mine, e.g. I think they've changed the aero degree every year for the past 3 years (don't ask me why...)
2. Technically, it is possible for me to complete 8 Finance units and 8 Actuarial units + 6 core units without having to do any extra commerce units (still 16 commerce, 26 engineering)
3. However, there is a faculty rule that states only 2 units (not including compulsory ones) can overlap for separate majors. e.g. I could do all 6 overlapping units, but only 2 could count to Finance and Actuarial. So I could end up with a Finance major made up of:
2 Finance only units, 4 Overlapping units that only count towards finance, 2 Overlapping units that count towards finance and actuary, 2 actuary only units.
So, I'd satisfy requirements for a Finance Major (8 units) but not the Actuary Major (4 units). Or if I chose to major in Actuary with the exact same units I could, but I couldn't get the Finance Major as well.

I hope that makes sense, but tl;dr you can choose units from different majors if you want, but ultimately you can only end up with one major.

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EDIT: Oh, and I saw some messages about PASS sessions. Last year I didn't register and rocked up with my friend who had registered to see what PASS was like. At the end of the session the PASS leader said that he'd be happy for me to stay for the entire semester even though I hadn't registered. So...

Oh Thanks so much Alwin! I have an year to decide, so I'll worry about that later. I emailed the PASS dude, and he said it was okay if I turned up anyway. Were these classes helpful? I'm kinda struggling with ENG1002 at the moment, and I'm hoping it helps.

On another note, I really hate the moodle quizzes, I forgot this weeks quiz for ENG1002 again, and I doubt the coordinator is going to open it up again for me. Is there a reason as to why they do them online? Can't the final exam just be like 60%, and the team project like 40%? I really hate it when people try to incorporate technology into things, even though it doesn't fit there.

[anna.xo]

I'm gonna be like an hour late to my damn tute. God fucking dammit -.-

Edit; excuse the language.

[Orson]

Hey everyone. It's suddenly hit me that I'm not doing enough preparation for lectures and pre-lecture quizzes. I do everything that is prescribed, but it still isn't enough. All my quizzes and pracs have been at like 50%, but I have no idea how to increase them. Today in the computing class, the dude came over to me in the last minute, asked me to explain something, he didn't give me any time, and just gave me 50%.  I had this goal of around an 70 - 80 average, but it looks like its all being slowly taken away by these online quizzes.

My subjects: ECC1000, ENG1090, ENG1002, ENG1003

Any tips?

[(Daniel)]

Hey everyone. It's suddenly hit me that I'm not doing enough preparation for lectures and pre-lecture quizzes. I do everything that is prescribed, but it still isn't enough. All my quizzes and pracs have been at like 50%, but I have no idea how to increase them. Today in the computing class, the dude came over to me in the last minute, asked me to explain something, he didn't give me any time, and just gave me 50%.  I had this goal of around an 70 - 80 average, but it looks like its all being slowly taken away by these online quizzes.

My subjects: ECC1000, ENG1090, ENG1002, ENG1003

Any tips?

Take your time for your quizzes. Unless its different to my ones... i do them at the library or at home with all the resources i need available to me (videos, readings, textbooks) and i try to do them. So far the hardest quiz i have done took me around 6 hours to complete but you should be sure of every answer.

[keltingmeith]

Hey everyone. It's suddenly hit me that I'm not doing enough preparation for lectures and pre-lecture quizzes. I do everything that is prescribed, but it still isn't enough. All my quizzes and pracs have been at like 50%, but I have no idea how to increase them. Today in the computing class, the dude came over to me in the last minute, asked me to explain something, he didn't give me any time, and just gave me 50%.  I had this goal of around an 70 - 80 average, but it looks like its all being slowly taken away by these online quizzes.

My subjects: ECC1000, ENG1090, ENG1002, ENG1003

Any tips?

Are these online quizzes timed? Maybe you should be taking them a little more slowly. Double, triple and quadruple check your answers.

[Orson]

Are these online quizzes timed? Maybe you should be taking them a little more slowly. Double, triple and quadruple check your answers.

Take your time for your quizzes. Unless its different to my ones... i do them at the library or at home with all the resources i need available to me (videos, readings, textbooks) and i try to do them. So far the hardest quiz i have done took me around 6 hours to complete but you should be sure of every answer.

Yeah. I get an hour for the quizzes. I normally take all the time available, but in some cases (ENG1002 in particular), even if I was given longer, I still wouldn't have a clue what is going on. I'm really struggling with these kind of questions. Where can I get some online tutorials?

Is there like a way you guys study to get those 90s you get? If I'm struggling with 1st year subjects...I'm screwed.

[Alwin]

Oh Thanks so much Alwin! I have an year to decide, so I'll worry about that later. I emailed the PASS dude, and he said it was okay if I turned up anyway. Were these classes helpful? I'm kinda struggling with ENG1002 at the moment, and I'm hoping it helps.

On another note, I really hate the moodle quizzes, I forgot this weeks quiz for ENG1002 again, and I doubt the coordinator is going to open it up again for me. Is there a reason as to why they do them online? Can't the final exam just be like 60%, and the team project like 40%? I really hate it when people try to incorporate technology into things, even though it doesn't fit there.

PASS sessions can be useful, they often provide summaries for commerce units.

As for exams... before first year engineering units changed, exams were typically 70%. I had one unit in first year that had an 80% exam, which was also rather ridiculous actually...

Is there like a way you guys study to get those 90s you get? If I'm struggling with 1st year subjects...I'm screwed.

You just need a system   The worst part of uni is that no one will remind you to do things and lectures aren't like your teachers as in they won't chase you up for work. For me, I use a combination of:
Android calendar/iPad Reminders/Evernote/My Study Life/Sticky Notes/Diary/Mini Whiteboard (on my table)/Trello in order to make sure I know what's due when and where.

Hopefully you're not as absent minded as I am, so you won't need such a complicated system HAHA. But once you have it in place, handing in uni work just becomes a routine. Eventually you'll stop missing quizzes and actually know when you need to start preparing for quizzes.

So far the hardest quiz i have done took me around 6 hours to complete but you should be sure of every answer.

Dayum! I'm all for in-semester assessments (because if I don't do it during semester, I'll probably have to do it during swotvac anyways) but 6 hours is harsh. What unit was that quiz for?

[(Daniel)]

Dayum! I'm all for in-semester assessments (because if I don't do it during semester, I'll probably have to do it during swotvac anyways) but 6 hours is harsh. What unit was that quiz for?

Human rights 1.

Just a noob thing. I never read scholarly articles before. At first i just skimmed over the 15 designated pages of readings and realized i would not get anywhere. So i started reading. I re-read the first sentence like 4 times..i knew it was gonna be a long afternoon. It took me a while but i grinded out all the questions.