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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10650 on: June 09, 2015, 12:42:06 am »
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Dilate by 1/2 from y-axis, that is, f(2x) to get:
f(2x) = 16x^4 + 2x
Translate one unit up, that is, f(2x) + 1, to get:
f(2x) + 1 = 16x^4 + 2x + 1 = g(x)

This is good but you forgot the reflection in the y-axis i.e. f(-x)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10651 on: June 09, 2015, 01:23:54 am »
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When solving trig equations.

When you give your final answer and say x=bla,blah,etc

does your answer have to be in order of lowest x values to highest x values?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10652 on: June 09, 2015, 01:25:51 am »
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When solving trig equations.

When you give your final answer and say x=bla,blah,etc

does your answer have to be in order of lowest x values to highest x values?

No, it just has to include all of the possible solutions.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10653 on: June 09, 2015, 11:34:53 pm »
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This has really been bugging me.

Find the derivative of Sin^2(x)

So I've used the chain rule to get to: [2sin(x)] [cos(x)]

But what are the next steps? The answer is sin2x.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10654 on: June 09, 2015, 11:42:24 pm »
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This has really been bugging me.

Find the derivative of Sin^2(x)

So I've used the chain rule to get to: [2sin(x)] [cos(x)]

But what are the next steps? The answer is sin2x.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Your answer is right. Its just been simplified using the double angle formula for sin(2x). Just type into google 'sin double angle formula' and you'll find out some more about it. Don't be too concerned about it though, its mainly specialist trig stuff, just know that it exists from a methods viewpoint
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10655 on: June 09, 2015, 11:51:14 pm »
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Your answer is right. Its just been simplified using the double angle formula for sin(2x). Just type into google 'sin double angle formula' and you'll find out some more about it. Don't be too concerned about it though, its mainly specialist trig stuff, just know that it exists from a methods viewpoint
Alright thanks a lot, I'll look it up for tomorrow.

So if that pops up in a SAC or exam I can leave my answer in that form?

You don't understand how long I spent trying to comprehend that question haha  :P

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10656 on: June 10, 2015, 12:19:36 am »
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For the question (attached).

i got the answer k=3 or k=-3.

The book has an answer that k=3.

Who is right and why?


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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10657 on: June 10, 2015, 12:39:59 am »
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How would you do this question?(attached)

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« Reply #10658 on: June 10, 2015, 02:27:17 pm »
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anyone?  Thanks  :)

How would you do this question?(attached)

For the question (attached).

i got the answer k=3 or k=-3.

The book has an answer that k=3.

Who is right and why?



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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10659 on: June 10, 2015, 02:54:37 pm »
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How would you do this question?(attached)





















And of course you can confirm k, by substituting it into your integral:









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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10660 on: June 10, 2015, 02:58:30 pm »
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For the question (attached).

i got the answer k=3 or k=-3.

The book has an answer that k=3.

Who is right and why?

The function f(x) = 2/x has a vertical asymptote at x = 0. Even though which has the same value for , the integral has a vertical asymptote in its domain, which doesn't make sense.

In other words, the book is right. Soz :P
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« Reply #10661 on: June 10, 2015, 03:03:41 pm »
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And of course you can confirm k, by substituting it into your integral:











Thanks so much cosine  :)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10662 on: June 10, 2015, 03:22:22 pm »
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The function f(x) = 2/x has a vertical asymptote at x = 0. Even though which has the same value for , the integral has a vertical asymptote in its domain, which doesn't make sense.

In other words, the book is right. Soz :P

Thanks kinslayer  :)

wait but shouldnt it be .

also when you antiderive .

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10663 on: June 10, 2015, 03:31:35 pm »
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Here is a question (attached)?
here is my working out.











The answer says  k=3 only.

But doesnt the absolute value mean that k can also equal -3 too.
The  CAS calculator also says k=3 or k=-3.

Who is right?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #10664 on: June 10, 2015, 03:54:23 pm »
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Here is a question (attached)?
here is my working out.











The answer says  k=3 only.

But doesnt the absolute value mean that k can also equal -3 too.
The  CAS calculator also says k=3 or k=-3.

Who is right?
The absolute value method is correct. You can also think of it this way with a graphical perspective. The definite integral in this case is giving you the area under the curve with respect to the x axis. Hence the value of k must exist the whole way for the area to be calculated. As the graph has an asymptote at x=0, in this case, the graph cannot cross to x=-3. Therefore, you have to reject the solution k=x=-3, and thus the only solution is k=3.
As for your question regarding the calculator: The calculator does indeed provide two solutions. However, if you sub in k=-3 to the definite integral, you will see that it will come as undefined. This is because you can't calculate the area under the curve in the case that there is an undefined region in between x=a and x=b (in integral).
Hope this helps  :)
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