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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1380 on: December 31, 2012, 06:20:29 pm »
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Consider a right-angled triangle:



Why haven't I learn this before? Is it from yr 12 methods?
Thanks everyone for the explanation but only get some bit and not all.

EDIT: I have another question.

T=22 + 3 sin
a) What is the amplidute? and the highest y value and lowest y value(what is it called)
b) can u find the period from this equation? or u need a domain : 0<(equal to) t< (equal to) 24. Btw how do u put equal to/larger than together as a symbol?
c) Find the time(s) when the temperature is 20.5.

Thanks :)
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« Reply #1381 on: December 31, 2012, 07:40:14 pm »
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Why haven't I learn this before? Is it from yr 12 methods?
Thanks everyone for the explanation but only get some bit and not all.

the angles in a triangle add up to 180 degrees - which is the same as in radians, the 3 angles in a right-angled triangle are equal to and . after adding them up, you just move a few things around to get to the final answer. you don't really need to prove formulas in methods though, so don't worry about it too much. it's more important to know the formula and how to use it.

T=22 + 3 sin
a) What is the amplidute? and the highest y value and lowest y value(what is it called)
b) can u find the period from this equation? or u need a domain : 0<(equal to) t< (equal to) 24. Btw how do u put equal to/larger than together as a symbol?
c) Find the time(s) when the temperature is 20.5.
Thanks :)
(a) amplitude is 3,

(b) the period of an a sinusoidal function () is , in this case thus,


in latex, the less or equal to sign is \le or \leq.
more information on latex: Re: Logs help

(c) by hand:


using a CAS:
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1382 on: January 02, 2013, 01:09:11 pm »
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Hi, I'm not sure how to write maths symbols on the forum so hopefully this is understandable. It's question 3 from chapter 9 extended response, essentials maths book.

f(x)= (x-a)^n (x-b)^m where m and n are positive integers with m>n and b>a.

Find f'(x). I tried using product rule but it didn't seem to work...

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« Reply #1383 on: January 02, 2013, 01:13:50 pm »
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Hi, I'm not sure how to write maths symbols on the forum so hopefully this is understandable. It's question 3 from chapter 9 extended response, essentials maths book.

f(x)= (x-a)^n (x-b)^m where m and n are positive integers with m>n and b>a.

Find f'(x). I tried using product rule but it didn't seem to work...

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« Reply #1384 on: January 02, 2013, 01:23:20 pm »
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See I got up to line 2 as well, but I don't get the simplyifing part.  :S
Why is it m(x-a) shouldn't it be n(x-a)? And m(x-b) not n(x-b)?
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« Reply #1385 on: January 02, 2013, 01:24:36 pm »
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See I got up to line 2 as well, but I don't get the simplyifing part.  :S
Why is it m(x-a) shouldn't it be n(x-a)? And m(x-b) not n(x-b)?

the m in m(x-a) is from the derivative of (x-b)^m

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« Reply #1386 on: January 02, 2013, 01:36:14 pm »
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the m in m(x-a) is from the derivative of (x-b)^m


Ahh, I get it now! Thanks so much  :D
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1387 on: January 02, 2013, 01:59:49 pm »
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Hi, I'm not sure how to write maths symbols on the forum so hopefully this is understandable. It's question 3 from chapter 9 extended response, essentials maths book.

f(x)= (x-a)^n (x-b)^m where m and n are positive integers with m>n and b>a.

Find f'(x). I tried using product rule but it didn't seem to work...





With much excitement I tried to answer the next few parts and got stuck again.

If m and n are odd, find the set of values for which f'(x) > 0. I got the answer by simply subbing in the derivative into the inequality, but didn't take into account the m and n are odd bit. What effect does this have?

For the second part, if m is odd and n is even find the set of values for f'(x) > 0,  you can't just sub it into the inequality because the answers are different...
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« Reply #1388 on: January 02, 2013, 04:24:03 pm »
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With much excitement I tried to answer the next few parts and got stuck again.

If m and n are odd, find the set of values for which f'(x) > 0. I got the answer by simply subbing in the derivative into the inequality, but didn't take into account the m and n are odd bit. What effect does this have?

For the second part, if m is odd and n is even find the set of values for f'(x) > 0,  you can't just sub it into the inequality because the answers are different...



drawing graphs (or substituting values of and for similar shapes) and then looking at which parts have a positive gradient make the next part easier:

m odd, n odd (graph has similar shape to )
the function would have stationary points of inflection at and  since the degree of the polynomial is even, is a local maximum. hence,


m odd, n even (graph has similar shape to )
by looking at the graph, there is a stationary point of inflection at , a local maximum at and a local minimum at and hence,

in general, if :
has a stationary point of inflection of n is odd, and a turning point if n is even
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1389 on: January 02, 2013, 05:26:53 pm »
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You, my friend, are a genius! It seems so simple now, thanks for the help.
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« Reply #1390 on: January 02, 2013, 06:33:32 pm »
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AB is one side of a regular n-sided polygon that circumscribes a circle, i.e. each edge of the polygon is tangent to the circle. The circle has a radius of 1.
Show that the area of the triangle OAB is tan(pi/n)
(O is the centre of the circle, can't post up the diagram)
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« Reply #1391 on: January 02, 2013, 06:44:51 pm »
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I feel like giving my take on this since it's an interesting question. Starting with and both being odd:



If and are both odd, then and are both raised to even powers and are therefore positive, except where they are zero, which is when or when

For the linear factor, you can simply solve the inequality:







So the derivative is positive provided and


For the case where is instead even, the factor is still positive except where

For the remaining two factors, they either need to be both positive, or both negative, for their product to be positive.

If they are both positive, we require that (since it is raised to an odd power, ) i.e. , and also that , from solving the same inequality as before. So we require that is greater than the larger of and

Using the same method, if they are both negative, then and , so must be less than the smaller of the two.

So overall we require that if is even and is odd
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1392 on: January 02, 2013, 06:51:17 pm »
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AB is one side of a regular n-sided polygon that circumscribes a circle, i.e. each edge of the polygon is tangent to the circle. The circle has a radius of 1.
Show that the area of the triangle OAB is tan(pi/n)
(O is the centre of the circle, can't post up the diagram)
The polygon can be split up into isosceles triangles, and the angles where they all meet at the centre (which includes the angle ) are

Let be the midpoint of . Then is a right-angled triangle, with the right angle at .

The angle is half the angle , so it is

Hence, , and since , we have

Since is half the length of , we have

So the area of the triangle is , as required
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #1393 on: January 02, 2013, 08:53:00 pm »
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A car travels half the distance of a journey at an average speed of 80km/hr and half at an average speed of x km/hr.

Define a function, S, which gives the average speed for the total journey as a function of x.
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« Reply #1394 on: January 02, 2013, 09:00:21 pm »
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Let be the total distance of the journey.



EDIT: Fixed the minor screw up
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