VCE Methods Question Thread!

[zhen]

I understand how you got -pie/6 but not pie/6 i understand you got it from the first quadrant since cos is postive there
I thought the domain [-pie,pie] was a domain that existed from where pie usually is to 2pie

The domain is from [-π,π] or you can break it up to [-π,0] and [0,π]. For [0,π], any positive number that's less than π, is part of the domain. Since π/6<6π/6 (this is the same as π), then it's in the domain since it's positive (so greater than 0) and it's less than π.

[LPadlan]

Hey, i was wondering how much do you guys study(in hours) a night? I know the amount of study differs for everyone and every subject, but, i just want to have a general idea on how much to study. Thanks

[Quantum44]

Hey, i was wondering how much do you guys study(in hours) a night? I know the amount of study differs for everyone and every subject, but, i just want to have a general idea on how much to study. Thanks

In year 11 I only studied methods before SATs and on weekends but in year 12 I try to do 45-60 minutes a night of textbook questions and 3 hours each weekend. Obviously before SACs that number increases substantially to account for the completion of practise SACs and other revision.

[zhen]

In year 11 I only studied methods before SATs and on weekends but in year 12 I try to do 45-60 minutes a night of textbook questions and 3 hours each weekend. Obviously before SACs that number increases substantially to account for the completion of practise SACs and other revision.

How do you fit in 45-60 mins every night for methods on weekdays? I probably average around 30-45 mins every night for weekdays, since if I do any more it'll go into my relax time and my time for other subjects. Assuming you do an hour every night of every subject, that's doing 5 hours of work every night!! How do you space this out or do you priotitise methods?

[zhen]

Hey, i was wondering how much do you guys study(in hours) a night? I know the amount of study differs for everyone and every subject, but, i just want to have a general idea on how much to study. Thanks

My methods teacher recommended 2 and a half hours of work every night on average for all subjects. So, I'd say that if you can do an average of 30-40 mins on average of methods every night, then it'd be plenty. You might want to do more if methods isn't your strongest subject or if you want to do really well. Of course, if SACs are coming up you should probably do more than this recommended amount, but on a normal weekday, this is probably enough.

[Quantum44]

How do you fit in 45-60 mins every night for methods on weekdays? I probably average around 30-45 mins every night for weekdays, since if I do any more it'll go into my relax time and my time for other subjects. Assuming you do an hour every night of every subject, that's doing 5 hours of work every night!! How do you space this out or do you priotitise methods?

Well I usually do 3-3.5 hours a night on weeknights. I always do 45-60 mins of spesh and methods so I can finish the course in July then I will do 20-40 mins of English and Latin most days. I skip chem most days as it won't be in my top 4.

[zhen]

Well I usually do 3-3.5 hours a night on weeknights. I always do 45-60 mins of spesh and methods so I can finish the course in July then I will do 20-40 mins of English and Latin most days. I skip chem most days as it won't be in my top 4.

Makes more sense, so you prioritise methods and spesh. Since I thought you were doing 45-60 mins of all 5 subjects, that would be like 4.5 hours a night on average which is really crazy, but you were just prioritising certain subjects.

[Quantum44]

Makes more sense, so you prioritise methods and spesh. Since I thought you were doing 45-60 mins of all 5 subjects, that would be like 4.5 hours a night on average which is really crazy, but you were just prioritising certain subjects.

Yeah it's not worth focusing equally on all subjects given how the VCE works

[deStudent]

Well I usually do 3-3.5 hours a night on weeknights. I always do 45-60 mins of spesh and methods so I can finish the course in July then I will do 20-40 mins of English and Latin most days. I skip chem most days as it won't be in my top 4.

Bruh you're gonna finish the entire methods and spesh course early af when you spend an average amount of time on them...you must be smart as.

[Max Kawasakii]

Yeah it's not worth focusing equally on all subjects given how the VCE works

Hm, IMO 2 great study scores contrasted to four average ones won't be as good as 6 SS in the median of Average and great. You have to be careful when people say things like "You must be studying for at least 2.5 hours a night" because this isn't entirely true. To put this in retrospect I have this scenario;

Person A: Studies primarily MM/SM intensively, does every text book question etc etc but in turn sacrifices time for his/her other 4 subjects.

Person B: Studiously avoids quantity, and instead focuses on getting the most out of out for the least amount. In simple terms, does more of the harder questions in an effort to diversify his/her knowledge. This can now be done across all 6 subjects.

It's a bit wish washy, but Quality>Quantity for sure, time management and diversification > Prioritization , so IMO it's incidentally worth focusing equally. You have to be smart in selecting what you do, anyone can just blast out all the TB questions and focus on 2 subjects and spend set 'x' amount of time on every subject, only those who are 'more switched on' can do the contrary.  IMO

Reality is, what ever works for you hey.

[zhen]

Hm, IMO 2 great study scores contrasted to four average ones won't be as good as 6 SS in the median of Average and great. You have to be careful when people say things like "You must be studying for at least 2.5 hours a night" because this isn't entirely true. To put this in retrospect I have this scenario;

Person A: Studies primarily MM/SM intensively, does every text book question etc etc but in turn sacrifices time for his/her other 4 subjects.

Person B: Studiously avoids quantity, and instead focuses on getting the most out of out for the least amount. In simple terms, does more of the harder questions in an effort to diversify his/her knowledge. This can now be done across all 6 subjects.

It's a bit wish washy, but Quality>Quantity for sure, time management and diversification > Prioritization , so IMO it's incidentally worth focusing equally. You have to be smart in selecting what you do, anyone can just blast out all the TB questions and focus on 2 subjects and spend set 'x' amount of time on every subject, only those who are 'more switched on' can do the contrary.  IMO

Reality is, what ever works for you hey.

I think quantum44 is referring to the top 4 and bottom 2 system that VCAA applies. If you get 45 in all 6 subjects, you will probably get a lower atar then if you get 48 in 4 subjects and 30 in 2 subjects (just an example), provided one of your 48 is English. So, prioritising can work, but if you stuff up one of your good subjects, there's no fallback option, so it's still a big risk.

Also, I know that 1 hour of efficient studying > 2 hours of really non efficient studying, but honestly I can't see how anyone can properly finish the course for all their subjects and also study for SACs and tests without at least an average of 2 hours per night of efficient studying. This doesn't mean that you have to do 2 hours every single night, it just means the average amount of study per night should be around this much, so you could do 2 and a half hours in one night and one and a half in another.

[LPadlan]

show that 3x=2/x+1 = 3- 1/x+1

[zhen]

show that 3x=2/x+1 = 3- 1/x+1

Can you post a picture of the question, since idk what it's asking for

[Quantum44]

Bruh you're gonna finish the entire methods and spesh course early af when you spend an average amount of time on them...you must be smart as.

I started in the summer holidays

I think quantum44 is referring to the top 4 and bottom 2 system that VCAA applies. If you get 45 in all 6 subjects, you will probably get a lower atar then if you get 48 in 4 subjects and 30 in 2 subjects (just an example), provided one or your 48 is English. So, prioritising can work, but if you stuff up one of your good subjects, there's no fallback option, so it's still a big risk.

Also, I know that 1 hour of efficient studying > 2 hours of really non efficient studying, but honestly I can't see how anyone can properly finish the course for all their subjects and also study for SACs and tests without at least an average of 2 hours per night of efficient studying. This doesn't mean that you have to do 2 hours every single night, it just means the average amount of study per night should be around this much, so you could do 2 and a half hours in one night and one and a half in another.

This is exactly what I mean. Focusing on 5 subjects in year 12 is very difficult so sacrificing one for the betterment of the other 4 is the most effective way to optimise your ATAR.

[Aaron]

Please keep all posts relevant and specific to Maths Methods questions in some way.

The discussion so far has been okay, however the posts prior to this one are now starting to go off topic (where the discussion relates to subjects in general as opposed to Methods specifically).

Posts that do not fit the scope of 'Methods Questions' (e.g. asking a question about Maths Methods or answering a question by another user about Methods) will be removed.

You are more than welcome to start a new thread or post in the appropriate section if you would like to address study habits, subject choices etc. in general. Cheers