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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15540 on: November 06, 2017, 07:30:05 pm »
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can i pls get help for the Nht Exams
exam 1:
8cii, 6aii
exam 2:
- section a:
q15-17 (quick way of doing 17 bc my cas isnt showing the true/false method properly)
q19 and 20

thank you

btw for eg; in a 4 mark question, do i get consequential marks if i started off with a mistake but then got the right answer for the mistake? or are consequential marks only for questions in parts (like u get part a wrong, then b, c, d etc)?
Exam 1 Questions
8cii) Please see my earlier comment where I answered this question. There's also some discussion and alternative solutions if you scroll down a bit. Let me know if my explanation didn't make sense :)

6aii) As per sampling from a small population with sample size four:
Exam 2 Questions
15) I'm not sure if this is the intended working out, but anyway...
Consider that at the point of intersection, the equation of the tangent to both graphs is y = x. In other words, the gradient is 1!
We just need to solve for the value of k in which both derivatives are equal to 1!
The inverse is

This should give you k=1/e, which is E.

16) If the area under the graph is 8, consider what the transformations will do to change the area.
A dilation of 2 from the x-axis will double the area i.e. A = 2*8 = 16
A transformation of 1 unit down will reduce the area by a rectangle with height 1 and length 3 (the 3 comes from the 3 units between x = 1 and x = 4), which is 3 sq units
So now after removing the rectangle, 16 - 3 = 13, we get B as the answer.

17) I should add a caveat for when you use the method you described - beware logarithms.
When you have typed in option C using the method you described, you will get an equation (rather than the expected 'true'). Now, you need to solve this equation for x. You will get x>=1. This tells us option C is only true when x is greater than or equal to 1. Nevertheless, option C is still true (for numbers greater than or equal to 1, anyway)! Hope this makes sense :)
In general, I would solve all equations involving logs for the purpose of the 'true/false' method.

19) The probability we want is

Now we use the formula given in the question

which after a bit of manipulation (hint: subtracting logs with the same logs means you divide what's in the brackets) should give option B.

20) Please see here for a discussion about this same question (discussion lasts for about 4-5 comments) :)

RE: consequential marks - don't quote me on this, but I've heard that examiners only penalise you for making a mistake once i.e. you will receive consequential marks.

Can someone help me with question 3e 2017 nht exam 2? The wording is really confusing me.
What part of the question doesn't make sense? Have you read the examiner's report? I find it helps to draw out a flowchart.
The question wants the probability that a box is labelled incorrectly. The box will be labelled incorrectly when it is a Grade A and it has a use-time of less than 10.5 hours (intersection of probabilities), or it is Grade B and has a use-time of more than 10.5 hours.
Please post if you're still stuck :)

Does anyone have a link to ALL the formulas we need to know? Coz I know there's some not on the formula sheet given by VCAA that are required knowledge.
There's a few - I suggest you have a look at past VCAA exam 1s to get an idea of what's required :)
From the top of my head though - chain/product/quotient rules for differentiation; binomial probability; sampling from a small population. I'm sure there's more though.

do i HAVE to write in this notation?
usually i just write 'normal' 'mean=x' 'sd=y'
is that enough?
I don't think it's explicitly required. Just be sure when you do what you've suggested, that you make clear which variable it corresponds to. e.g. "Let X be a normally distributed random variable with mean __ and SD ___" or similar, so the examiner can follow your work :)


Hope this helps! :)
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15541 on: November 06, 2017, 08:47:51 pm »
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Hey guys could anyone help me with question 3 of the heffernan 2016 exam 2? I just want to know why they've used the normal approximation to find the sd, but the question is a binomial so why can't you use sqrt(np*(1-p))

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15542 on: November 06, 2017, 09:35:01 pm »
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Hey guys could anyone help me with question 3 of the heffernan 2016 exam 2? I just want to know why they've used the normal approximation to find the sd, but the question is a binomial so why can't you use sqrt(np*(1-p))

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We're dealing with a sampling distribution, so while X is indeed a binomial variable, recall that the sampling distribution is p hat = X/n. We're looking for the SD for p hat, so we use the formula which they used in their solutions as per the formula sheet.

Hope this helps :)
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15543 on: November 06, 2017, 09:53:52 pm »
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We're dealing with a sampling distribution, so while X is indeed a binomial variable, recall that the sampling distribution is p hat = X/n. We're looking for the SD for p hat, so we use the formula which they used in their solutions as per the formula sheet.

Hope this helps :)

thank you so much  :)
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15544 on: November 06, 2017, 10:14:06 pm »
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Does anyone know if we can use our calculators during reading time?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15545 on: November 06, 2017, 10:16:46 pm »
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Does anyone know if we can use our calculators during reading time?
Unfortunately, no - according to the VCE Exams Navigator 2017 (page 5 under "Calculators"):
"Calculators must not be used during reading time."
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15546 on: November 06, 2017, 11:10:18 pm »
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Can I use pencil for the methods exam????

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15547 on: November 07, 2017, 02:00:34 am »
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Can I use pencil for the methods exam????
yes. Many people including myself have used pencils in the past and have recieved study scores. :)
just make sure your pencil markings aren't too feint by pressing hard enough.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15548 on: November 07, 2017, 09:28:57 am »
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Are general solution questions likely to come up on exam 1?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15549 on: November 07, 2017, 09:39:10 am »
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Are general solution questions likely to come up on exam 1?
i think it can come up but they're more likely to give a domain :)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15550 on: November 07, 2017, 10:27:09 am »
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Hi,

For VCAA 2012 E1, Q4c) what is the reason why we don't double count 2 phone calls on Monday and Tuesday, but we count 1 on Mon, 3Tues and its reverse?

Essentially, we count (1,3) and (3,1) but only count (2,2) once, but we can get 2,2 in two different orders?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15551 on: November 07, 2017, 10:45:11 am »
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hey guys

could someone help me with this standard normal distribution question:
Let X be a normally distributed random variable with mean 5 and variance 9 and let Z be the random variable with the standard normal distribution.

a) Find Pr(X>5)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15552 on: November 07, 2017, 10:53:05 am »
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hey guys

could someone help me with this standard normal distribution question:
Let X be a normally distributed random variable with mean 5 and variance 9 and let Z be the random variable with the standard normal distribution.

a) Find Pr(X>5)

Thanks :)

You'd have to find the standard normal distribution from the normal distribution of X
So
X~N (mean=5, variance=9 (which means that sd=3)), Pr(X>5)=Pr(Z>(x-mean)/sd) that would give you a Pr(Z>0)
And with your standard normal knowledge, you'd know that the mean of Z is 0, so it cuts the distribution exactly half, and half of Z will be more than 0.
Pr(z>0) would be 0.5 or 1/2
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15553 on: November 07, 2017, 10:56:58 am »
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Thanks

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #15554 on: November 07, 2017, 10:57:11 am »
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Hi,

For VCAA 2012 E1, Q4c) what is the reason why we don't double count 2 phone calls on Monday and Tuesday, but we count 1 on Mon, 3Tues and its reverse?

Essentially, we count (1,3) and (3,1) but only count (2,2) once, but we can get 2,2 in two different orders?

Hey :) this question is kinda flawed in wording but they are looking for the total number of calls (2,2) and because 2M2T is the same order as 2M2T they don't count it as different variables (or accounts yknow what I mean). 1M3T and 3M1T would be considered different due to the day (this is kinda self explanatory).
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