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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17055 on: October 08, 2018, 04:30:18 pm »
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Methods exam 1 2010

2.b. find the antiderivative of 1(1-x) and evaluate it from 3 to 2

How would we find the antiderivative without using absolute values?
If \(\int{\frac{1}{x}}=\log_e{x}\), shouldn't \(\int{\frac{1}{1-x}}=\log_e{(1-x)}\)?
Hence, \(-(\log_e{(1-3)}) + \log_e{(1-2)}=\log_e{\frac{1-2}{1-3}} \therefore p=\frac{1}{2}\)...

Edit: Hmmm. The exam report disagrees... :'(

Double edit; It doesn't now... :D
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17056 on: October 08, 2018, 05:08:34 pm »
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If \(\int{\frac{1}{x}}=\log_e{x}\), shouldn't \(\int{\frac{1}{1-x}}=\log_e{(1-x)}\)?
Hence, \(\log_e{(1-3)} - \log_e{(1-2)}=\log_e{\frac{1-3}{1-2}} \therefore p=2\)?

Edit: Hmmm. The exam report disagrees... :'(

You need to divide the entire log function by the coefficient of the x term, in this case it is -1 therefore the function is -ln(1-x)
usually any anti derivative of 1(/ax+b)= 1/a(ln(ax+b))  +c
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17057 on: October 08, 2018, 06:09:38 pm »
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You need to divide the entire log function by the coefficient of the x term, in this case it is -1 therefore the function is -ln(1-x)
usually any anti derivative of 1(/ax+b)= 1/a(ln(ax+b))  +c
Thanks! I'll highlight that in my summary book! :D
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17058 on: October 08, 2018, 06:56:45 pm »
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I know how to work out the basic exact values for sin, cos and tan, but i've seen questions on exam 1 involving things like sin(-3pi/4), cos(pi), etc

How would these be done?
no calculator allowed!!

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17059 on: October 08, 2018, 06:58:16 pm »
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Aren't those just trig identities that you need to understand/memorise

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17060 on: October 08, 2018, 06:59:30 pm »
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I know how to work out the basic exact values for sin, cos and tan, but i've seen questions on exam 1 involving things like sin(-3pi/4), cos(pi), etc

How would these be done?
no calculator allowed!!

Thanks ;D

as stated above everyone basically memorises them

or you can "derive" them but that's not time efficient in an exam.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17061 on: October 08, 2018, 06:59:53 pm »
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Aren't those just trig identities that you need to understand/memorise
Can't really memorise them, because what it we get something like cos(100pi/5) on exam 1? :P

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17062 on: October 08, 2018, 07:02:11 pm »
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Can't really memorise them, because what it we get something like cos(100pi/5) on exam 1? :P
cos(100pi/5) = cos(20pi) = cos(0) = 1

They could give you stuff like that in exam 1 e.g. cos(33pi), sin(29.5pi)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17063 on: October 08, 2018, 07:04:06 pm »
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How do you know that cos(20pi) = cos(0)?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17064 on: October 08, 2018, 07:05:26 pm »
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How do you know that cos(20pi) = cos(0)?
Because \(20\pi\) is just 10 whole revolutions around the unit circle, arriving back at the start (i.e: 0)...
1 rev = \(2\pi\), 10 rev = \(20\pi\)...
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17065 on: October 08, 2018, 07:09:11 pm »
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Knowing how the unit circle works really REALLY helps when solving questions such as these.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17066 on: October 08, 2018, 07:15:14 pm »
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Is one whole revolution around the unit circle 2pi?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17067 on: October 08, 2018, 07:16:39 pm »
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Is one whole revolution around the unit circle 2pi?

Yes, 2pi = 360 degrees
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17068 on: October 08, 2018, 07:18:21 pm »
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Yes, 2pi = 360 degrees
So that means that cos(2pi), cos(4pi), cos(6pi) etc all equal cos(0)?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #17069 on: October 08, 2018, 07:18:42 pm »
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So that means that cos(2pi), cos(4pi), cos(6pi) etc all equal cos(0)?

Yes
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