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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2340 on: August 03, 2013, 03:51:16 pm »
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(x+3)^2 = y^(-1/2*2) = y^-1
Reciprocal
(x+3)^-2 = y
I think I got lost at reciprocal. Do you just multiply by -1?
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« Reply #2341 on: August 03, 2013, 03:52:39 pm »
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Consider f(x) + 1 nliu


You know exactly what I mean. That's like translating the x-axis down.

I think I got lost at reciprocal. Do you just multiply by -1?

Reciprocal means raise to power of -1, or have one divide it.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2342 on: August 03, 2013, 03:54:16 pm »
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I think I got lost at reciprocal. Do you just multiply by -1?



that's what nliu mean by reciprocal (in latex version)
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2343 on: August 03, 2013, 03:55:18 pm »
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Ahh okay. I just couldn't see it before.
Cheers guys
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2344 on: August 03, 2013, 03:57:58 pm »
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The only think I would add is:Consider f(x) + 1 nliu
You know exactly what I mean. That's like translating the x-axis down.

Umm, no? I'm not talking about changing terminals, just the translation.
eg int_0^1 f(x) dx = 1  -->  int_0^1 (f(x) + 1) dx = 2

Sorry, i wasn't very clear :P
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2345 on: August 03, 2013, 04:04:31 pm »
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No, I knew what you were trying to say.
Perhaps I should have made it clearer originally: translations themselves don't change the area, but if your integration region doesn't account for the translation, the area will change.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2346 on: August 03, 2013, 04:32:31 pm »
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Original Question

I see in your signature that you do spesh Stick, so a hint for the algebraic way is substitution :)
for a, let u=3x, then you have to change the terminal ;)

for b, i'll also show a non spesh way of doing it for those of you not doing spesh


and nliu's gone and answered the rest while I was LaTexing :D

The only think I would add is:Consider f(x) + 1 nliu

This makes sense now. Thanks.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2347 on: August 03, 2013, 04:56:55 pm »
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dunno how to. ans:a

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« Reply #2348 on: August 03, 2013, 05:01:50 pm »
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dunno how to. ans:a

You test each one =D

I'll do (B) for you, to quickly show you!
What we do is denote the sets. We try to prove P(X n Y) = P(X) * P(Y) which shows the events are independent
let P(X) be probability of getting something in the set {1, 3, 5 ,7, 9, 11}. So P(X) = 1/2
let P(Y) be probability of getting something in the set {2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12}. So P(Y) = 1/2
This implies that P(X n Y) is the probability of getting something in the set {{1, 3, 5 ,7, 9, 11} n {2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12}} = null set. So P(X n Y) = 0
Use the rule P(X n Y) = P(X) x P(Y) for independent events:
LHS = 0, but RHS = 1/2 * 1/2 = 1/4.  LHS ≠ RHS, this option is not an independent event.

You do the same for each of the other options :)

hope it helps!
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2349 on: August 03, 2013, 06:07:29 pm »
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im still a lil confused. for example how would you test option a, how do you workout pr(a) and pr(b) and pr(a (intersection) b)?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2350 on: August 03, 2013, 06:33:39 pm »
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im still a lil confused. for example how would you test option a, how do you workout pr(a) and pr(b) and pr(a (intersection) b)?
Original Question

let Pr(A) be probability of getting something in the set {1, 3, 5 ,7, 9, 11}. So Pr(A) = 6/12 = 1/2
let Pr(B) be probability of getting something in the set {1, 4, 7, 10}. So Pr(B) = 4/12 = 1/3
Pr(A n B) is the probability of getting something in the set {{1, 3, 5 ,7, 9, 11} n {1, 4, 7, 10}} = {1, 7} So P(X n Y) = 2/12 = 1/6
Use the rule Pr(A n B) = Pr(A) * Pr(B) for independent events:
LHS = Pr(A n B) = 1/6
RHS = Pr(A) * Pr(B) = 1/2 *1/3 = 1/6
LHS = RHS ∴ YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY it's independent QED etc etc blah blah blah :D


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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2351 on: August 03, 2013, 08:06:31 pm »
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2352 on: August 03, 2013, 08:37:24 pm »
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Maximum value: f'(x)=0, so either x=-3 or x=2
The graph of f'(x) has a maximum, so it's an upside down parabola (coefficient a<0) => f(x) is a "negative" cubic function (coefficient a<0) with 2 turning points (generally), so going from left to right along the x axis, the first one is a local minimum (smaller value of x, which is -3), the second one is the local maximum (bigger value of x, which is 2).
I used a few inaccurate termonologies here, but hopefully you know what I mean. :D
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2353 on: August 03, 2013, 08:39:27 pm »
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Since the original function is a cubic, we know the derivative function is a quadratic.

We know also know that its x-intercepts are at (-3, 0) and (2, 0) meaning that the stationary points of f(x) are at x=-3 and x=2.

The derivative function (the quadratic) has a maximum value, rather than a minimum value. This tells us that it's an 'upside-down parabola', if you like. So for .

If you just quickly sketch the derivative graph, you would see that at x=-3 you have a minimum turning point (derivative going from negative to positive) and at x=2 you have a maximum turning point (derivative going from maximum to positive).

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2354 on: August 04, 2013, 10:59:01 am »
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A long trough whose cross-section is parabolic is 1 and /2

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