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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2655 on: September 29, 2013, 01:48:49 pm »
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Its a 2 hour exam and you should spend more time on extended response. My teacher says to spend around 30-45 minutes on multi-choice. And if you take too much time you should just move on to ER because at the end, you can just guess for MC but you can't really write much on ER without actually reading it.
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« Reply #2656 on: September 29, 2013, 01:53:08 pm »
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What I used to do was in reading time was to go through the ER first and get ideas on how to approach them in my head. Then in the remaining minutes of reading time work out the first few easier multiple choice questions. When writing time started, I'd go and fix those few MC questions that I'd gotten through in my head, then do the ER and come back to MC after ER was finished (this was assuming that I would have enough time to get through both comfortably, which worked for methods, for spesh I was a bit more time pushed).

It'll be different for everyone though, just depends on where your strengths are and how fast you can work through it. Don't spend too much time on a question if you're stuck, i.e. in the above if you got stuck on an ER, leave it and come back to it so that you can get through the rest of the ER and MC in the time. (guessing you've all heard that last part before though :P)
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« Reply #2657 on: September 29, 2013, 02:18:09 pm »
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I can find the largest rectangle but I'm not sure what to do with square since similar triangles doesn't work?

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« Reply #2658 on: September 29, 2013, 02:24:43 pm »
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draw entire asymptotes, because the graph only tends towards that value as x (or y) tends to +infinity or -infinity, but not for values in between. 

Think of it like this: whats the definition of an asymptote? It's a value to which x tends as y becomes very large (or very small), or a value to which y tends as x becomes very large (or very small). So it doesnt matter what x and y do when theyre NOT very small, it only matters what happens as they do become very large or small.

Hopefully that makes sense :)

So full asymptotes even for something like ??
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2659 on: September 29, 2013, 02:30:17 pm »
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I can find the largest rectangle but I'm not sure what to do with square since similar triangles doesn't work?
There you go :)

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« Reply #2660 on: September 29, 2013, 02:34:11 pm »
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So full asymptotes even for something like ??
thats right!

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« Reply #2661 on: September 29, 2013, 02:48:13 pm »
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how much time should I be spending on the MC section of the exam?

The standard answer is 1.5 minutes for MC on the exam, but I recommend less (I think I was doing them in like 10-15min but that's not the point).

Most people going into the methods exam give themselves "30-35" minutes for the MC. The problem is when there are a couple harder MC's in the exam and they take longer than the 30min they gave themself. Then they stress about taking too long on the MC which makes them stressed for the ER so they're rushing everything and make more mistakes etc etc pretty much a bad experience.

Some people will say do the ER first then, because you can always go back and guess the MC, but I personally never liked the sound of that since when pushed to finish the MC people can screw up easy questions. Or, you're already tired from the ER and have little energy to finish the MC.

Either way, I would recommend practising to finish in under 20minutes for multiple choice and use your reading time effectively (look at b^3's comment for more details, no need for me to repeat it).
This way if you tackle the MC first, you know you can finish it under the "recommended" 30min, or if you choose to do ER first you know if you leave 30min at the end for the MC you won't be that pushed for time.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2662 on: September 29, 2013, 03:31:00 pm »
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Anyone have an idea how to do it on the CAS?
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« Reply #2663 on: September 29, 2013, 03:34:32 pm »
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I'd say just use the normal "expand" function. Gets the same result and probably quicker.

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« Reply #2664 on: September 29, 2013, 03:36:53 pm »
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I'd say just use the normal "expand" function. Gets the same result and probably quicker.
They both work the same, I can't remember specifics but I think the PropFrac function was more useful around dividing large polynomials and needing the remainder?
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« Reply #2665 on: September 29, 2013, 03:41:47 pm »
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« Reply #2666 on: September 29, 2013, 04:32:34 pm »
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I hate geometry :'(
Can someone explain these questions please? Thanks

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2667 on: September 29, 2013, 05:30:38 pm »
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We've had a little problem with the attachment stopping the page from loading. So I've split the thread, and whoever had the solution attachment will have to reattach it.

Sorry guys.
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« Reply #2668 on: September 29, 2013, 05:51:15 pm »
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Alright, my working for rhinwarr's second question is at http://i.imgur.com/5AjDN9N.jpg
I especially hope I didn't mess up after how many issues there have been with uploading this.   :-[
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #2669 on: September 29, 2013, 05:56:56 pm »
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I hate geometry :'(
Can someone explain these questions please? Thanks

This explanation is going to be long and algebra intensive. I also happen to be terrible at geometry.

Spoiler
The line passing through the point will have the equation . We get this by simply starting with the equation y=mx+c and substituting in the point .

The x-intercept of this line occurs at:





Integrating the equation for the line we calculated from 0 to the x-intercept gives us:











This is the term for our area, and notice here that for our area term to be positive, m has to be a negative number, which, if you look at the graph, makes sense.

Now we need to find the minimum value of our area of our graph, which we can do by differentiating the expression for area.

    I omitted the steps in differentiation. That's not too hard and you can probably do it yourself.

Rearraging:

, remembering to take the negative square root.

Substituting our value of m back into the area equation we worked out before:


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