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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6675 on: November 04, 2014, 12:47:28 pm »
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When writing the final answer- do we have to make fractions a proper fraction? Or can I just leave it as an improper fraction? I don't want to waste time making my final answer "look nice"? Thoughts?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6676 on: November 04, 2014, 12:48:37 pm »
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I did what @IndefatigableLover did, as it was only 2 marks. Aha but idk, on an exam might do what @Yacoubb did.

Also: is this wrong:


x can be negative -> since the x2 makes it positive...
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6677 on: November 04, 2014, 12:49:03 pm »
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Yeah don't bother changing to a proper fraction. It doesn't matter as long as the answer is correct(unless the question says otherwise)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6678 on: November 04, 2014, 12:55:29 pm »
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Two conflicting statements (Edit: not really actually lol) ^^ aha. I did what @IndefatigableLover did, as it was only 2 marks. Aha but idk, on an exam might do what @Yacoubb did.

Also: is this wrong:
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x can be negative -> since the x2 makes it positive...
Yeah I would have probably done it Yacoubb's way but so long as it's a 'Show that' question, you want to do some working to show that they're the same.. as for that picture, I don't think it's 'wrong' since in the box above the first one you outlined, it technically doesn't exist when you sub in x=-1 so I would go with the positive answer (probably want somebody else to clarify that though)..

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6679 on: November 04, 2014, 12:58:12 pm »
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Yeah I would have probably done it Yacoubb's way but so long as it's a 'Show that' question, you want to do some working to show that they're the same.. as for that picture, I don't think it's 'wrong' since in the box above the first one you outlined, it technically doesn't exist when you sub in x=-1 so I would go with the positive answer (probably want somebody else to clarify that though)..

Yeah that's true; I'm really not sure here aha
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6680 on: November 04, 2014, 01:01:07 pm »
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Yeah that's true; I'm really not sure here aha

I always remember to look at the given equation before I make changes. Since substituting x= -1 would not provide a solution, x=+1

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6681 on: November 04, 2014, 01:05:19 pm »
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I always remember to look at the given equation before I make changes. Since substituting x= -1 would not provide a solution, x=+1

Mm yeah, from the given equation it doesn't work (I guess?), so go by that... But does it not work for the given equation?

yeah 2log(-1) doesn't work
but you can make it work -> log((-1)2)

Ahhh... Like it's not as if that really strays from the given equation.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6682 on: November 04, 2014, 01:06:44 pm »
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Mm yeah, from the given equation it doesn't work (I guess?), so go by that... But does it not work for the given equation?

yeah 2log(-1) doesn't work
but you can make it work -> log((-1)2)

Ahhh... Like it's not as if that really strays from the given equation.

Stick with the rule that you make substitutions into the given equation. If it doesn't work there, it cannot be a solution.

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6683 on: November 04, 2014, 01:07:29 pm »
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Stick with the rule that you make substitutions into the given equation. If it doesn't work there, it cannot be a solution.

Yeah I will go with this :)
Hopefully VCAA won't give something like this though...
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6684 on: November 04, 2014, 01:13:36 pm »
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How do we get 2? I understand that () = 1 thus . How does this equate to 2?
I was thinking to differentiate sec^2 but seems like I'm getting no where haha. Thanks.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6685 on: November 04, 2014, 01:14:28 pm »
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Could someone explain how thanks!!
Also @Jason12 what exam is this?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6686 on: November 04, 2014, 01:15:07 pm »
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How do we get 2? I understand that () = 1 thus . How does this equate to 2?
I was thinking to differentiate sec^2 but seems like I'm getting no where haha. Thanks.

sec(pi/4) = 1/cos(pi/4) = 1/1/root(2) = root(2)

Edit: then obviously, sec2(pi/4)/tan(pi/4) = (root(2))2/1 = 2
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6687 on: November 04, 2014, 01:20:07 pm »
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(2pi +2)2=(2pi +2)(2pi +2) = 2(pi+1)*2(pi+1) = 4(pi+1)

-2/4(pi+1) = -1/2(pi+1)

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6688 on: November 04, 2014, 01:20:21 pm »
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Yeah something like that needs you to employ pythagoras' theorem.

So construct a triangle, and find sinthetaband costheta. Once you've done that, refer back to 10a (acostheta and asintheta). Multiply the given value by the specified a value, and then use them to get your final answer.

Is that clear?

Ah yeah got it. So simple haha, should've gotten it. Thankyou'!

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6689 on: November 04, 2014, 01:20:37 pm »
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sec(pi/4) = 1/cos(pi/4) = 1/1/root(2) = root(2)
Ahhhh thanks! I should start to use the formula sheet more haha. However the answer is 2 not root(2)?
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