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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1305 on: February 20, 2013, 08:02:37 pm »
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Use that as a guide, do the same with
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1306 on: February 20, 2013, 08:19:05 pm »
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1307 on: February 21, 2013, 04:08:39 pm »
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Stuck on part a for both of these questions:



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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1308 on: February 21, 2013, 05:20:50 pm »
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Stuck on part a for both of these questions:

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The area of the triangle is hence the kite's area is twice that.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1309 on: February 22, 2013, 06:52:13 pm »
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a) solve [sec(x)]^2 + tan(x) = 1
b) hence, solve the above equation when it is greater than 1.

Ive got part a but im stuck on part b.
cheers in advance

edit: forgot to chuck in the domain. Domain = (0,2pi]
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1310 on: February 22, 2013, 07:12:24 pm »
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we know that 1 + tan^2(x) = sec^2(x).
so the inequation becomes (1+tan^2(x)) + tan(x) > 1
tan^2(x) + tan(x) > 0
tan(x) [tan(x) + 1] > 0
so possibilities are:
tan(x) > 0 and tan(x) + 1 > 0
OR
tan(x) < 0 and tan(x) + 1 < 0
solve each pair of simultaneous inequations over the given domain.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1311 on: February 22, 2013, 07:26:15 pm »
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we know that 1 + tan^2(x) = sec^2(x).
so the inequation becomes (1+tan^2(x)) + tan(x) > 1
tan^2(x) + tan(x) > 0
tan(x) [tan(x) + 1] > 0
so possibilities are:
tan(x) > 0 and tan(x) + 1 > 0
OR
tan(x) < 0 and tan(x) + 1 < 0
solve each pair of simultaneous inequations over the given domain.

thats exactly what i was doing. But i sort of tested it out with a simple quadratic like a(a+1)>0.
normally, you would get a>0 and a<-1, but by doing it the way you have up there ^, you get a>0 and a>-1???
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1312 on: February 22, 2013, 08:05:24 pm »
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thats exactly what i was doing. But i sort of tested it out with a simple quadratic like a(a+1)>0.
normally, you would get a>0 and a<-1, but by doing it the way you have up there ^, you get a>0 and a>-1???
You don't normally get a>0 and a<-1 -- you get a>0 OR a<-1. You need to make the distinction between 'and' and 'or.'

The reason you arrive at this


tan(x) > 0 and tan(x) + 1 > 0
OR
tan(x) < 0 and tan(x) + 1 < 0


is because for a product of two numbers to be positive, they have to be the same sign.

So you need tan(x) > 0 and tan(x) + 1 > 0 to be true simultaneously, or tan(x) < 0 and tan(x) + 1 < 0 to be true simultaneously.

For the case where tan(x) > 0 and tan(x) + 1 > 0, this is equivalent to tan(x) > 0 and tan(x) > -1, which simplifies to tan(x) > 0 (in other words we need tan(x) to be both greater than 0 and -1, which can only happen if it's greater than 0)

For the case where tan(x) < 0 and tan(x) + 1 < 0, this is equivalent to tan(x) < 0 and tan(x) < -1, and this simplifies to tan(x) < -1 (same logic as before)

Combining the two cases, we get tan(x) < -1 or tan(x) > 0
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1313 on: February 22, 2013, 09:05:29 pm »
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You don't normally get a>0 and a<-1 -- you get a>0 OR a<-1. You need to make the distinction between 'and' and 'or.'

The reason you arrive at this


tan(x) > 0 and tan(x) + 1 > 0
OR
tan(x) < 0 and tan(x) + 1 < 0


is because for a product of two numbers to be positive, they have to be the same sign.

So you need tan(x) > 0 and tan(x) + 1 > 0 to be true simultaneously, or tan(x) < 0 and tan(x) + 1 < 0 to be true simultaneously.

For the case where tan(x) > 0 and tan(x) + 1 > 0, this is equivalent to tan(x) > 0 and tan(x) > -1, which simplifies to tan(x) > 0 (in other words we need tan(x) to be both greater than 0 and -1, which can only happen if it's greater than 0)

For the case where tan(x) < 0 and tan(x) + 1 < 0, this is equivalent to tan(x) < 0 and tan(x) < -1, and this simplifies to tan(x) < -1 (same logic as before)

Combining the two cases, we get tan(x) < -1 or tan(x) > 0

Oh ok. yeah that makes sense, of course.
thanks for the help guys. much appreciated
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1314 on: February 22, 2013, 10:42:50 pm »
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Probably just making a stupid error here since it seems like a pretty simple question. My calculator is spitting out complex solutions however. :|

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1315 on: February 22, 2013, 10:43:49 pm »
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What was your working? :)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1316 on: February 22, 2013, 10:46:32 pm »
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Well I was a bit concerned by the word 'zero' but I assumed that both 1+i and 1-i were solutions. Then I applied a simultaneous equations method.
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1317 on: February 22, 2013, 10:52:34 pm »
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It doesn't have real coefficients so you can't infer that z = 1 - i is a zero
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1318 on: February 22, 2013, 11:00:59 pm »
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That makes sense. I knew it was a simple error somewhere. :P
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #1319 on: February 23, 2013, 02:29:33 pm »
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are three linearly dependent vectors ALWAYS coplanar?
Not necessarily would they?
unless my definition of coplanar is somehow different to the universal one
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