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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2115 on: August 12, 2013, 04:59:59 pm »
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Im not too sure myself but wanna give it a go so,




i got dx/dt= -x/5, because the outflow rate is 2l per minute?


i understand everything except the limits of the intergration. why did they use them (50 and 3) to get the time?
if you intergrate the expression you get t in terms of v. then you sub in the final v (3) for the final t, and initial v (50) for the initial t, then subtract them to get the time taken. this means the limit should have 3 on top and 50 on the bottom, but they took out the negative in front and switched the terminals around.
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« Reply #2116 on: August 12, 2013, 05:04:07 pm »
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i got dx/dt= -x/5, because the outflow rate is 2l per minute?

Yeah that's what I got too! :)
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« Reply #2117 on: August 12, 2013, 05:07:13 pm »
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Im not too sure myself but wanna give it a go so,







Yes, I believe that's correct. How did you go about getting to ?
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« Reply #2118 on: August 12, 2013, 05:07:41 pm »
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yeah but the tank has 20 litres in it already. wouldn't it be 2/20 =1/10?

i think you wouldve been confused by the 10 litres of salt
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« Reply #2119 on: August 12, 2013, 05:08:50 pm »
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yeah but doesnt the tank have 20 litres in it already. wouldn't it be 2/20 =1/10?
oh yeah you're right, i misread the question haha
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« Reply #2120 on: August 12, 2013, 05:09:53 pm »
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« Reply #2121 on: August 12, 2013, 05:23:48 pm »
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what is the formula for the vector resolute of v in the direction of u? Is it the same as the vector resolute of v, parallel to u?  [(unit.vector.of u (dot.product) v )unit.vector.of u] if yes then why?

for example how would you solve this question:
find the vector resolute of 3i-2j+k in the direction of -i+3j+2k
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2122 on: August 12, 2013, 05:46:21 pm »
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Vector resolute of v in the direction of u:



Vector resolute of 3i-2j+k in the direction of -i+3j+2k:





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« Reply #2123 on: August 12, 2013, 05:48:18 pm »
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Vector resolute of v in the direction of u:




how did you get that
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2124 on: August 12, 2013, 05:59:48 pm »
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yeah but the tank has 20 litres in it already. wouldn't it be 2/20 =1/10?

i think you wouldve been confused by the 10 litres of salt

Ahh, of course! I was confused by that haha, thanks a lot!
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2125 on: August 12, 2013, 06:30:50 pm »
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Also another question:

A particle travelling in a straight line has velocity v m/s at time t s. Its acceleration is given by . Its velocity is 50m/s initially and is reduced to 3 m/s. What is the expression for the time taken in seconds for this to occur.

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i understand everything except the limits of the intergration. why did they use them (50 and 3) to get the time?

Firstly, what is an integral? If you have dy/dx = f'(x), then integrating f'(x) from bounds a to b will give f(b) - f(a), or the change in y.
So similarly here, we have dv/dt = -0.05(v^2-5)
dt/dv = -20/(v^2-5)
Now we want the change in time. Note any similarities with the above? If we integrate the function given from the initial velocity, v=50 to the final velocity, v = 3, we find the time elapsed between those two velocities. So we integrate -20/(v^2-5) dv from 50 to 3.
But VCE doesn't like it when the upper bound is lower, so flip the bounds to get the integral of 20/(v^2-5) dv from 3 to 50.

how did you get that

Let's have two vectors, v and u, and we want to find the "amount" of v that is in the direction of u, so we want to find a constant k such that ku, v and v-ku form a right angled triangle.
If you draw up a triangle, you'll find that this means the vector u and v-ku must be perpendicular.
Therefore u.(v-ku) = u.v - k*u.u = 0
k=u.v/u.u
Vector resolute is hence u.v/u.u * u
Insert vector arrows where appropriate.

yeah but the tank has 20 litres in it already. wouldn't it be 2/20 =1/10?

i think you wouldve been confused by the 10 litres of salt

Inflow rate = 0
Outflow rate? We're removing 2 L of solution per minute while keeping the volume constant. The concentration of salt at any time is x/v, and v is a constant 20, so the concentration is x/20
Now mass flow rate = concentration * volume flow rate= x/20 * 2 = x/10 kilograms / minute
This is the change in mass, or dx/dt, so dx/dt = - x/10
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2126 on: August 12, 2013, 08:06:00 pm »
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Okay, two more questions from me.

1)
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2) Suppose we were asked in a question (with an appropriate context), "Find, to the nearest minute, how long, after it is brought indoors, it takes the water to reach a temperature of 25 deg C".  Would we round our answer to the nearest minute, or would we find the nearest minute at which the water has gone beyond the 25 deg C?? (so if the rate of change was COOLING, would we round to a minute where the temperature has gone equal or BELOW 25????

Hope this makes sense, thanks
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2127 on: August 12, 2013, 08:12:38 pm »
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1) i found it pretty tricky with words but is the answer somewhere around 6636 years?

2) i think equal or more but not less but im not 100% sure
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2128 on: August 14, 2013, 08:40:05 pm »
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This question is really frustrating me.

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #2129 on: August 14, 2013, 09:04:49 pm »
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Okay, so firstly let's look at the forces acting on the body here.

There's the weight force, and there's the force exerted by the spring balance. These are the forces acting on the body, and the sum of these forces should be equal to ma. Let's take the upward direction to be positive.









At rest, the reading would be equal to the weight force, mg, which is

When accelerating upwards:



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